SEO relevancy amplifiying method [GIVEAWAY]

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tar729 said:
if you do bad experiments, and 100,000 sites in the sample will not help.
The sample is representative.
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- You dont know the algorithms
- You dont have enough statistics
- You are here to sell
- You were given a credit because you're russian
- Your site burenieskvazhindeshevo.ru will never rank on Google, because its awful SEO-wise
- Your site burenieskvazhindeshevo.ru doesnt rank on Yandex, where things are much easier to rank than on Google
- How about you GTFO?
 
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lancis said:
- You dont know the algorithms
- You dont have enough statistics
- You are here to sell
- You were given a credit because you're russian
- Your site burenieskvazhindeshevo.ru will never rank on Google, because its awful SEO-wise
- Your site burenieskvazhindeshevo.ru doesnt rank on Yandex, where things are much easier to rank than on Google
- How about you GTFO?
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learn how to watch the position of sites in the Yandex
you're not looking properly
 
tar729 said:
learn to watch the position of sites in the Yandex
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Show me. No need to preach that regional crap, ok?
Any noob here can rank for "drilling of wells in New York"
 
I'm not attesting to the veracity of this as a ranking technique but this so called 'semantic graph' can be made using the AdWords keyword tool in the following way:

1. Take a base term, run it through they keyword search tool.
2. Note down the top 10 (or 100 for more statistical accuracy - if you're doing in programatically) suggestion results, their position in the top 10 and the search numbers.
3. Run each of those top 10 results through they keyword tool, note down the top 10 suggestions.
4. Use a little mathematical logic for each term, so the higher up in the keyword suggestion tool a related term is, the more closely related it is to it, i.e 'semantic similarity'. The most important terms to the group will always appear near the top.
5. ????
6. Profit.
 
I am happy that some knowledgeable SEO'ers came to thread and are looking to the right direction, however only primitively.

You are thinking in right direction, however Google isn't dumb enough to let you create a semantic graph that easily. Not everything is so simple.
 
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key request / the proportion of weight in the semantic graph
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key requests up to 1% are used to title articles in the seo transistor

the rest is not important
This semantic graph of the General form (commercial+non-commercial)

For the transistor you need 2 different semantic graph
(a) commercial semantic graph
b) non commercial semantic graph

graphs vary by region
New York, Los Angeles...different graphs

you thought that all that simple? :) :)
Very high accuracy is required
In Google AdWords you will not extract this data. In any case, your primetivety methods...
Parse serp also useless too
 
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The power is within the linking structure if you're wanting a good high quality relevant link, you have shared the method, it's done.

The keywords you pick only counts for the amplification of the strategy in relevance however, the trust still gets passed from site to site to site so I'm not entirely sure why you are trying to upsell your semantic relevant keyword graphs when there are already half a dozen commercial keyword tools that can do what you are doing which are readily available and pretty much under $100.

I thank you for your 'theory' 'method' it has opened my eyes to figuring out the entire process, in my opinion, you shouldn't have shared the linking structure and the internals of how this linking pattern works, you should have just sold it from the get go.
 
There are plenty of tools for semantic analysis. Here's a hint - run aggregate TF*IDF on each page ranking on the first page of the SERPS for your keyword.

Then do likewise for whatever head terms you want to use for the feeder sites for this strategy. It may not be as good as whatever semantic analysis this guy is doing, but it should be good enough.

Just be sure that you go at least 50 terms deep and position the terms with the highest TF*IDF score in the H2s and first paragraph.

One thing that this guy said is true - to a large extent, Google's algorithm is just math. They use upwards of 200 metrics for scoring, put a number value on each, and decide how to weight each factor. Up until recently, humans controlled the weighting. Now Google uses Rankbrain. Rankbrain analyzes click data to determine how to weight each metric. Rankbrain uses the click data to find the pages with the best user engagement, and then analyzes the metrics to see what these pages have in common. Then Rankbrain adjusts the metrics weighting.

Google also split tests content. Out of the blue, Google will move a page that was ranking on page 2 into position 2 or 3 for a short period of time to see how it performs. If the click data outperforms the incumbent, the page moves up.

The one thing that all of the advanced strategies in the world won't help you with is user engagement. Click data is Google's bullshit detector. If your content sucks and your visitors pogo stick, you're site will never rank. IMHO, it's the #1 reason for SEO failure. This isn't 2010. User engagement is critical. If you want to rank, you need awesome content. If you can't write well, dump a few bucks on a US based writer on Upwork.

Google also has a bias towards "first movers". The first quality pages that get posted for a new search term are very hard to dislodge.
 
ComputerJunkie said:
The power is within the linking structure if you're wanting a good high quality relevant link, you have shared the method, it's done.

The keywords you pick only counts for the amplification of the strategy in relevance however, the trust still gets passed from site to site to site so I'm not entirely sure why you are trying to upsell your semantic relevant keyword graphs when there are already half a dozen commercial keyword tools that can do what you are doing which are readily available and pretty much under $100.

I thank you for your 'theory' 'method' it has opened my eyes to figuring out the entire process, in my opinion, you shouldn't have shared the linking structure and the internals of how this linking pattern works, you should have just sold it from the get go.
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I have experience of 4 years.
you can't do it...
You will lose years of experimenting before you learn how to do transistors independently.
I'm counting on it.
 
GWM3rd said:
There are plenty of tools for semantic analysis. Here's a hint - run aggregate TF*IDF on each page ranking on the first page of the SERPS for your keyword.

Then do likewise for whatever head terms you want to use for the feeder sites for this strategy. It may not be as good as whatever semantic analysis this guy is doing, but it should be good enough.

Just be sure that you go at least 50 terms deep and position the terms with the highest TF*IDF score in the H2s and first paragraph.

One thing that this guy said is true - to a large extent, Google's algorithm is just math. They use upwards of 200 metrics for scoring, put a number value on each, and decide how to weight each factor. Up until recently, humans controlled the weighting. Now Google uses Rankbrain. Rankbrain analyzes click data to determine how to weight each metric. Rankbrain uses the click data to find the pages with the best user engagement, and then analyzes the metrics to see what these pages have in common. Then Rankbrain adjusts the metrics weighting.

Google also split tests content. Out of the blue, Google will move a page that was ranking on page 2 into position 2 or 3 for a short period of time to see how it performs. If the click data outperforms the incumbent, the page moves up.

The one thing that all of the advanced strategies in the world won't help you with is user engagement. Click data is Google's bullshit detector. If your content sucks and your visitors pogo stick, you're site will never rank. IMHO, it's the #1 reason for SEO failure. This isn't 2010. User engagement is critical. If you want to rank, you need awesome content. If you can't write well, dump a few bucks on a US based writer on Upwork.

Google also has a bias towards "first movers". The first quality pages that get posted for a new search term are very hard to dislodge.
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to rank high you need action on a number of factors.
I brought only 1
of course you're right
 
ComputerJunkie said:
So why don't you just create a keyword tool and sell it commercially?
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the instrument is there.
there is a web service in Russian. For 4 years there :)
you are very much technologically behind
 
tar729 said:
the instrument is there.
there is a web service in Russian. For 4 years there :)
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Yeah but it's in Russian, if you want to come to an English speaking forum and present your sells pitch, it would be extra beneficial if your product was converted to the English language also.

A lot of people on this forum are very sceptical and so they should be, they've probably been burnt a few times, I don't think anyone will part with $800 on the basis of obtaining a highly expensive core keyword list :) unless ofcourse you give them actual working live case studies to rest their minds.

I know this strategy works as I've seen it many times when researching sites, this thread just filled in the gaps, so I know what you're saying is great information but the upsell of $800 for a set of "pure" "highest quality" "relevant" key phrases to use on your "transistors" for the best possible efficiency is rather large.

All the other simpleton minds out there will only see "what the hell, $800 for a keyword list I could of scraped with scrapebox".

Ooooooh ignorance is bliss.
 
ComputerJunkie said:
Yeah but it's in Russian, if you want to come to an English speaking forum and present your sells pitch, it would be extra beneficial if your product was converted to the English language also.

A lot of people on this forum are very sceptical and so they should be, they've probably been burnt a few times, I don't think anyone will part with $800 on the basis of obtaining a highly expensive core keyword list :) unless ofcourse you give them actual working live case studies to rest their minds.

I know this strategy works as I've seen it many times when researching sites, this thread just filled in the gaps, so I know what you're saying is great information but the upsell of $800 for a set of "pure" "highest quality" "relevant" key phrases to use on your "transistors" for the best possible efficiency is rather large.

All the other simpleton minds out there will only see "what the hell, $800 for a keyword list I could of scraped with scrapebox".

Ooooooh ignorance is bliss.
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Here I'm not selling anything.
Here only the basic theory and examples.
 
Even if this thing worked, is blackhat, and what applies to Yandex, does not apply necessarily to Google. It's pure speculation that it's at base of the algo of both google and yandex.
Anyway, folks, I don't see why you're losing time reading this. There's 3-4 threads on BHW from guys who ranked tons of websites and explained perfectly how.
Or you can always just google a lot of mid-competition terms in google usa and analyze SEO and website's structures and just copy!
 
ppaizon217 said:
Even if this thing worked, is blackhat, and what applies to Yandex, does not apply necessarily to Google. It's pure speculation that it's at base of the algo of both google and yandex.
Anyway, folks, I don't see why you're losing time reading this. There's 3-4 threads on BHW from guys who ranked tons of websites and explained perfectly how.
Or you can always just google a lot of mid-competition terms in google usa and analyze SEO and website's structures and just copy!
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This method does work and is working in google right now and has been working in google for the last 5-6 years since they knew that PR would become redundant as a result of a flawed equation on ranking factors, the thing is, as you say, there are people ranking websites in the normal old fashioned backlinking methods most of us use all the time which does also work, but this way is much more cost effecient than spamming your site with the tiered linking approach and investing a lot of money in high authoritive RELEVANT private blog network, not to mention the need of researching your PBN domains, keeping the network healthy and the cost of a great PBN domain in comparison to a brand new domain you can purchase for a buck.

The are a few ways to rank a website just the same as there are many factors in the search algo that rank your site, nothing is perfect hence the reason different methods of ranking a site exist, if you don't see the actual potential in this strategy of ranking then it's not the OP's problem, it's your own.
 
Thats really great share,I have bookmarked this.
Can be shared with colleagues.
 
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