SEO relevancy amplifiying method [GIVEAWAY]

[lancis]

@tar729 cant say I understood this post, but the other one was convincing.
I asked for some math on your other post, and would love to see some math here is well.

Here is why:

1. Google/Yandex/Whatever rely on algorithms, algorithms rely on math. If something cant be formulated mathematically, it means only one thing - it doesnt exist in the world of search engines.
2. On the grand level of things everything boils down to the problem of estimating the probability of page given a keyword, e.q. p(page|keyword). The higher the probability the higher the page is in the search results. There might be variations, such as p(page|keyword,country), p(page|keyword,user), but these are only subproblems of the main problem above.

According to Bayes: p(page|keyword) = p(keyword|page) * p(page) / constant
p(page) is the well known pagerank algorithm
p(keyword|page) deals with semantics and relevant links, and it would be great if you could shed a light on how exactly p(keyword|page) is estimated by Yandex. If you can, give us math instead translations an we will derive the structure.

 

[LeanLow]

I have this one great tactic that I'll share with y'all. If someone talks about something related to SEO (algos, PBNs, strategies etc) I look at how much money does that person make, if the person makes an amount of money of where I want to be at, I listen very carefully, if the person doesn't make any money or makes less than me then I discard. With all the noise on the internet this tactic saved me probably thousands of hours.

 

[tar729]

I have this one great tactic that I'll share with y'all. If someone talks about something related to SEO (algos, PBNs, strategies etc) I look at how much money does that person make, if the person makes an amount of money of where I want to be at, I listen very carefully, if the person doesn't make any money or makes less than me then I discard. With all the noise on the internet this tactic saved me probably thousands of hours.

In Russia, the technology does not work.
Here it is possible to invent anti-gravity engine and die in poverty. Classics of life in Russia. You do not understand
To be patented it will need to sell the house.
And if you patent this, the rights taken away.
Therefore, patent invention, only crazy people.
The proposed method in Russia shows excellent results and tremendous cases. It would matter to you, but it doesn't matter for the Russian people. Russian people do not believe their eyes. The successful cases do not encourage them to repeat the successful result.
To confirm the result should be the leader. They will not try to repeat the success. The leader also will not be. But depends on the leader whether to repeat people.
You - other.
See cases and repeat. sorry for the bad translation of Google translate

 

[Finn]

Interesting method thanks for sharing I will check it out once I have little more time.

Best of success with your journey!

Regards,

Finn

 

[anssoft]

This needs too much time to figure it our

 

[fatjack'sblackhat]

Would it be beneficial to register site1 as a .org and site2 as .com?

 

[tar729]

@tar729
good reading the new post ..... but that is mostly known already so looking forward to see part 2.
the main question is why this 2 pages should be so powerful why the amplyfieing. maybe you can explain that again in more detail in part 2.

i have built page 1 already so start working on page 2.
page 2 is the donor or giving page and i have a question to the linking.

(the link to page 3 i will add later.)
the internal linking is clear.
but the linking to other external pages ???
-since i don't have your system to find the most relevant pages. should i just take the pages top ranked for my kw in google ? or should i just look for big pages in this niche ?
-should i link with a relevant anchor or irrelevant one - to the external pages (if i use relevant i loose power for the link to my page and will boost them as well)
-how many external links ... on your sample page you have 2 (http://trafiknazakaz.ru)

Read the bottom of this post.

You guys aren't getting it. You link site B through tetris blocks through the 3rd dimension hyper inflation. If you don't you get
PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILICOVOLCANOCONIOSIS which causes inflamation to the site A. That inflammation could be bad and sometimes is BUT sometimes it activates the ABSTENTIOUS of ones site. SUBDERMATOGLYPHIC is what your really want from site C, because it can help underline the dermal matrix which is good in a posthumous SEO type world. Good luck, hit me up on skype if that's not understandable.

Read the bottom of this post.

I have understand nearly everything he stated now.

Read the bottom of this post.

question to the exact link structure for the giving page
(you wrote quite exactly for the links in the receiving page but not for the giving)

you example page - trafiknazakaz.ru

the top link is to page 3 - direct.yandrex.ru (that is page 3 ?)
but then you have links from the main page and from the subpages(article pages) to yadi.sk
(is this the link to the external page with the most semantic power return?)
why you link there from the articles as well ? this must be done ... its not in your graphic.
is it to make the articles stronger as well if you link to relevant extern pages ????
should it be done for some article pages or not ??? to make the most powerful structure.

thanks

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Your method is not helpful at all dude, you are just promoting yourself here.
I have a website which is same what you wrote here, it is alive since 3+ years.
How I made this? Ok, here is the reason:
I have 70K+ unique pages with photos and valuable information, I wanted to check if really "CONTENTS IS KING", I just published these 70K pages to the website, I did not make ANY link from any page to these pages (not from home, nor from any other page and sure no external links). I only submitted the 8 sitemaps to google.
These 70K pages has already links to home page (by default).
Unless your internal pages got huge external links to pass the power to your main page, this is useless.
Your Transistor theory needs POWER to work, this transistor will be DEAD without power. and if you say that YES it needs power, trust me it will give same results as a normal link building.
I believe there is no magic in SEO dude.

Out of record: contents works, these 70K pages bring 13-14K visits a month ( I did not build ANY link from inside or outside)

One of the worst things I've read. If it's all spun it doesn't even matter because it won't convert anything if it's not spun then it's so much waste of time, unbelievable. Your case is shit.

Real visits
The dark conclusion in this test: No one will link to you because your contents are useful.
I got in 3+ years: only 78 natural links from forums (nothing else).

No one said anything about natural links.

@tar729 cant say I understood this post, but the other one was convincing.
I asked for some math on your other post, and would love to see some math here is well.

Here is why:

1. Google/Yandex/Whatever rely on algorithms, algorithms rely on math. If something cant be formulated mathematically, it means only one thing - it doesnt exist in the world of search engines.
2. On the grand level of things everything boils down to the problem of estimating the probability of page given a keyword, e.q. p(page|keyword). The higher the probability the higher the page is in the search results. There might be variations, such as p(page|keyword,country), p(page|keyword,user), but these are only subproblems of the main problem above.

According to Bayes: p(page|keyword) = p(keyword|page) * p(page) / constant
p(page) is the well known pagerank algorithm
p(keyword|page) deals with semantics and relevant links, and it would be great if you could shed a light on how exactly p(keyword|page) is estimated by Yandex. If you can, give us math instead translations an we will derive the structure.

I have this one great tactic that I'll share with y'all. If someone talks about something related to SEO (algos, PBNs, strategies etc) I look at how much money does that person make, if the person makes an amount of money of where I want to be at, I listen very carefully, if the person doesn't make any money or makes less than me then I discard. With all the noise on the internet this tactic saved me probably thousands of hours.

Sure, just let me share the whole Google algorithm!

Jokes aside, I don't know the exact math, I work with statistics and that's how I make my graph. I never said I knew exactly how it worked + with the machine learning system it constantly changes.

Interesting method thanks for sharing I will check it out once I have little more time.

Best of success with your journey!

Regards,

Finn

Thank you, read the bottom of this post for extra information.

This needs too much time to figure it our

Bottom of this post .

Would it be beneficial to register site1 as a .org and site2 as .com?

Both sites, same domain, read further down.

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A lot of you have been complaining that it's hard to understand what I've posted here and exactly the system behind the transistors. It's very logical, however very few have understood that and I have now decided to make one big post explaining every single thing. It will take some time for my translator to translate everything, however do expect it. It will be an article create to spoonfeed you all. Chances after the article that I will keep answering questions that were already answered in the post will be very slim! Please, remember that I also have time and even though I have not made the best informational posts I will now try to improve that. Cheers!
I will create a new thread for that, as a fresh start, as I see that I have fucked this one up. I will make one last post here with the link to the new thread. I hope mods don't mind!

 

[decno1]

Dude. Don't say shit about my contents before you see them.
Read again what i said. They are unique with valuable info and pictures.
I am ready to show my contents by pm.

 

[GWM3rd]

I haven't tested anything, but given what I've seen and other case studies, this seems very plausible. In some ways, it's an external version of Silo architecture. The structure is a little different but the theory is similar. What he is doing is building semantically themed authority nodes. Silo architecture, if executed correctly, can put your rankings on steroids. It wouldn't shock me a bit if this technique is spot on.

A lot of this also aligns with Google's patents. If you want to make money in SEO you'd better be reading them. Hmmm - should I trust a wingnut selling broken down used cars in BHW, or get the straight dope directly from Google? There's a crapload of ignorance and outright snake oil being sold on this site and others. My bullshit detector is pretty good, and I think this is one of the best posts I've read in a long time. This information is directly in sync with Google's patents.

I love the guys who challenge him and say "show me your sites". Please.

Any of these pikers who claim to be raking in SEO dough with crappy PBNs with spun content are so full of sh*t they squeak.

There are a bunch of newbs who haven't gotten their d*cks wet flaming the OP for one reason - they are totally out of their depth. Those guys couldn't find their asses in the dark with both hands and a flashlight.

If you're working your way through this thread - kudos. You are on the path to enlightenment. There are a lot of complex concepts being presented that are absolutely worth investigating.

And if you aren't using TF*IDF and LDA for semantically engineering content, you're already out of your league.

If you guys aren't paying close attention to what this man is writing, get out of the business because you are too dumb to come in out of the rain. I'm not saying that it works, but I'm definitely intrigued. Besides his transistor strategy, he's been throwing out nuggets of pure SEO gold. All of the other techniques he is using are highly advanced and highly effective - I've tested most of them. As a result, I am giving him a lot of credence.

So here's my question - Yandex and Google have intentionally built this into the algorithm. Is the amplification result from this linking pattern an intended result or a loophole in the algorithm?

 

[ibmethatswhoib]

If you guys aren't paying close attention to what this man is writing, get out of the business because you are too dumb to come in out of the rain. I'm not saying that it works, but I'm definitely intrigued.

First, welcome back from 2013, second you're saying if we aren't paying close attention to what he's saying then we're dumb, yet you have no clue if it works you're just intrigued, that doesn't make sense at all. I agree it's all about testing, he's made a lot of leaps and conspiracy but like anything there are some truth nuggets in there too and there is some good information in there that some may not have heard about. I'm not saying it's false but if you're bs detector didn't blip when he's dropping skype to sell his services you might need to tweak it. With that said, I'm still interested and it's always good to test out different theories and see what works.

 

[GWM3rd]

I've been lurking for the last 3 years. This is the first post I thought was worth commenting on.

My point is that the OP has laid out an intriguing theory that's based on a lot of advanced and highly effective techniques and is in line with a number of Google patents. He's written a highly articulate post even though his English is a struggle, and is getting flamed for his efforts. If you disregard his unproven transistor theory, he still shared more quality information than 99% of the other contributors on this forum. If a newb did nothing more than some hard research on the terms, concepts, and techniques the OP is throwing around, he would be on his way to a Masters Degree in SEO.

The flamers that are dismissing him off hand are doing so from ignorance and are treating him rudely. I give him a lot of credit for keeping his patience. I would have given up long ago, which pretty much explains why I haven't posted in 3 years.

If you take a hard look at how he structures his links, it's pretty easy to duplicate. The diagram in his original post was pretty straightforward. It wouldn't be too hard to test it.

As far as him soliciting business, I've been using most of his techniques for years, so I'm not buying.

 

[ComputerJunkie]

I think this thread should be deleted. As @GWM3rd said, the OP has given a lot of information but as I read the thread I see the same questions over and over again, if you can't understand the concept of this strategy when it's written in black and white, there's no point in trying, this method is very powerful if executed correctly, I have personally seen this method in action in the current SERPs and has been doing very well for the last 6 or so years.

OP you know your stuff, you should have kept it to yourself though You should set up a ranking service!

 

[AleeGS]

Basically its advanced SILO structure/PBN structure

I know one site in foreign language hack niche that is ranking #1 for almost all keywords using a similar or same structure.

 

[ibmethatswhoib]

Fair enough, I agree there is a lot of information he's trying to explain. I also love checking out google patents, here is one of my favorite blogs for that http://www.seobythesea.com. I suggest anyone wanting to nerd out on SEO check it out.

 

[lancis]

Sure, just let me share the whole Google algorithm!

Jokes aside, I don't know the exact math, I work with statistics and that's how I make my graph. I never said I knew exactly how it worked + with the machine learning system it constantly changes.

So its all your own theories then? Based on your own statistical data?
Should have mentioned that earlier, mate.

Theories based on small samples and the actual algorithms are worlds apart, no matter how intricate they sound.

 

[davids355]

Thanks for the share OP, looks interesting.

 

[JoachimvR]

Just be aware folks, he's not sharing the whole technique here as you can see in the screenshot. Now there is nothing wrong with that because nothing in the SEO world is free and if this stuff works it's worth every dollar he asks. But tbh he didn't gave me enough proof to convince me.

As said, I'm NOT saying it's not working, but the OP is not telling the whole technique

 

[tar729]

So its all your own theories then? Based on your own statistical data?
Should have mentioned that earlier, mate.

Theories based on small samples and the actual algorithms are worlds apart, no matter how intricate they sound.

sampling: 16 cases
success: 15 cases
Answer the question:
What is the completeness and accuracy?

I don't keep count of the cases of my followers. have their feedback and examples in the Facebook group.

 

[lancis]

sampling: 16 cases
success: 15 cases
Answer the question:
What is the completeness and accuracy?

You can start using the word "statistics" when you have at least 100 samples.
I just flipped a coin 15 times, guess what... got 13 tails.
What is the completeness and accuracy?

 

[tar729]

You can start using the word "statistics" when you have at least 100 samples.
I just flipped a coin 15 times, guess what... got 13 tails.
What is the completeness and accuracy?

if you do bad experiments, and 100,000 sites in the sample will not help.
The sample is representative.