Getting easy backlinks
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so no its not Free just another sad ploy to F*ck people over when they forget to cancel.....possibly the wrong place to do this considering most of us are doing this because we are numpty enough to do so, although thinking harder maybe its great scam...
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its free if you dare stick your CC anywhere near it.....
thanks but NO thanks
so no its not Free just another sad ploy to F*ck people over when they forget to cancel.....possibly the wrong place to do this considering most of us are doing this because we are numpty enough to do so, although thinking harder maybe its great scam...
do I know you.:twak:
rockinrobin
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There are quite a few pertinent posts in this thread that merit some comment. I will try to group them as there is a small number of recurring themes:
1) My links aren't getting indexed.
Answer: You will never know what gets indexed and what does not. Google will not reveal it to you. You can find more backlinks with Yahoo than with Google but even Yahoo will only show you a small fraction of the backlinks it has crawled. This is a red herring. Stop using the link: operator in Google to see if it has found your bookmarks. You are wasting your time.
2) My site isn't ranking because the links aren't indexed.
Answer: This is a corollary to the first statement. Since the axiom is wrong so are the corollaries. There are 101 reasons why your site may not rank and this is NOT one of them. The following are quotes taken from THIS THREAD:
3) I want links to my site, not someone's blog.
Answer: Then use another tool. You've got the wrong one. Don't complain that your coffee maker doesn't make milkshakes, buy a milkshake maker instead. What The Link Juicer does is it posts YOUR content to "the other guy's blog" and then passes link juice to it from bookmarks. If you don't want to do that then that's fine. No one tool is perfect for everyone.
4) I'm not getting any results after (insert a number) days. Your technique doesn't work.
Answer: First, it is not my technique. The Link Juicer just automates a technique that has been used very successfully to get large amounts of traffic by some of the most successful marketers on the Internet. Second, the technique does work, is working every day for thousands if not tens of thousands of Internet marketers doing it WITHOUT The Link Juicer. The Link Juicer just makes it easier.
If you are not ranking, the number one most probable reason is you have likely chosen a keyword that is too competitive. Choose one that has the right metrics. you can find out what that means anywhere. Do your homework.
Next there are a dozen or so on page and off page factors to consider. Looking at the campaigns it is true that a lot of users don't get it. The spammier your mentality, the less it is going to work. Focus, low link velocity and targeted keywords are most important.
1) My links aren't getting indexed.
Answer: You will never know what gets indexed and what does not. Google will not reveal it to you. You can find more backlinks with Yahoo than with Google but even Yahoo will only show you a small fraction of the backlinks it has crawled. This is a red herring. Stop using the link: operator in Google to see if it has found your bookmarks. You are wasting your time.
2) My site isn't ranking because the links aren't indexed.
Answer: This is a corollary to the first statement. Since the axiom is wrong so are the corollaries. There are 101 reasons why your site may not rank and this is NOT one of them. The following are quotes taken from THIS THREAD:
3) I want links to my site, not someone's blog.
Answer: Then use another tool. You've got the wrong one. Don't complain that your coffee maker doesn't make milkshakes, buy a milkshake maker instead. What The Link Juicer does is it posts YOUR content to "the other guy's blog" and then passes link juice to it from bookmarks. If you don't want to do that then that's fine. No one tool is perfect for everyone.
4) I'm not getting any results after (insert a number) days. Your technique doesn't work.
Answer: First, it is not my technique. The Link Juicer just automates a technique that has been used very successfully to get large amounts of traffic by some of the most successful marketers on the Internet. Second, the technique does work, is working every day for thousands if not tens of thousands of Internet marketers doing it WITHOUT The Link Juicer. The Link Juicer just makes it easier.
If you are not ranking, the number one most probable reason is you have likely chosen a keyword that is too competitive. Choose one that has the right metrics. you can find out what that means anywhere. Do your homework.
Next there are a dozen or so on page and off page factors to consider. Looking at the campaigns it is true that a lot of users don't get it. The spammier your mentality, the less it is going to work. Focus, low link velocity and targeted keywords are most important.
geneanroberts
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- Jun 9, 2009
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Question...How do I see the backlinks? I am really new to this stuff...I signed up for linkjuicer and signed up on all ten sites...then I created about 8 campaigns..so now how do I see if its working?
geneanroberts
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- Jun 9, 2009
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Question..I signed up for linkjuicer...I signed up on all ten sites. I created about 8 campaigns...Now how do I see if its working?...It has been 18 hours and nothing is showing up under report for each campaign...Is there somewhere else I can see it?
whs1978
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- May 19, 2008
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Linkjuice is really better compared to building a link wheel. With a link wheel You post your content on a Web 2.0 site with links pointing back to your money website and hope to get the PR passed through. Same deal with Linkjuice; your content with links pointing back to your money page are posted on other people's blogs, and then Linkjuicer bookmarks the hell out of those blogs, then bookmarks the bookmarks, thus building PR that is passed to your money site.
4alllifestyles
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- Dec 3, 2008
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Patience Grasshopper.......
RockinRobin has explained it here before... It takes some time in between his runs for things to happen. The reports come back after the run is finished...
Give it at least 24 hours...
My first runs took 48 - 72 hours for the reports to start coming up... But they do come up. And you can either view them for each campaign or download the csv of it to track yourself....
deth_by_uv
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WRONG! Once again this is an example of comparing a milkshake maker to a coffee maker.
When you post your content to your link wheels, you aren't hoping that PR gets passed through...that's what the whole concept is based on. Passing PR from one property, to the next, up to your money blog through it's linking structure.
Then if any of you actually took the 10 mins to read the pdf, you'd see that there are a couple other steps which helps create more link juice.
Build your link wheels, then setup your link juicer campaigns around those URL's. To me, this is like adding something like trafficandroid which does auto/scheduled bookmarking runs but LJ adds more structure to the linking and uses web2.0 too.
You could replace your linkwheels with linkjuicer, but why not have them both working for you? LJ is on auto anyway...
geneanroberts
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- Jun 9, 2009
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Ok no problem...just wanted to make sure I wasnt overlooking it somehow. Thanks
trafficsource
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I can't understand about this "You can run up to 50 campaigns at once" Then I must have 50 differents descriptions about my website?
deth_by_uv
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I was referring to the linkwheel pdf where lemon goes into further promotion of your linkwheel. He states that if you can't automate bookmarking - then don't do it at all because it'll take you forever manually. But, if you can get it outsourced or already own something that automates this task, then fire away.
I was just trying to say that these two concepts do not compete, they fit very nicely together.
I was just trying to say that these two concepts do not compete, they fit very nicely together.
Ok...understood.
By the way.....didn't Alex Goad pretty much put Link Wheel on the map about 1 year ago with his Playes with Money subscription site but just had another name for it?
I tried the method for a number of longtails back then that were all related and put my own spin on it and it did work rather well but the 2.0 sites did fall eventually.
I never placed any more emphasis on supporting those content and web properties w/ further backlinks and maybe that's where the real support comes into play to help keep the rankings.
By the way.....didn't Alex Goad pretty much put Link Wheel on the map about 1 year ago with his Playes with Money subscription site but just had another name for it?
I tried the method for a number of longtails back then that were all related and put my own spin on it and it did work rather well but the 2.0 sites did fall eventually.
I never placed any more emphasis on supporting those content and web properties w/ further backlinks and maybe that's where the real support comes into play to help keep the rankings.
deth_by_uv
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Not sure about Alex Goad, but I also know that this structure is also mentioned in Howie Schwartz apprentice blueprint. Web2's will drop if they don't have any type of backlinking campaign done and if it isn't updated.
For me, I am kind of like lemon where I build them crash and burn style. They go up, I ping, submit feeds, bookmark, then move on. One property which has good sticking power I have been seeing is USFreeAds, of course it won't be true in all markets but so far it has been pretty good for me.
When I build link wheels for people I always use my premium account and it's crazy. Sometimes within minutes of the ad going up I see a dozen views just from USFreeAds internal traffic. By days end I typically see some ads with over 60 views and it hasn't even been indexed in google but is indexed within 24 hours in most cases.
Hope that helps
For me, I am kind of like lemon where I build them crash and burn style. They go up, I ping, submit feeds, bookmark, then move on. One property which has good sticking power I have been seeing is USFreeAds, of course it won't be true in all markets but so far it has been pretty good for me.
When I build link wheels for people I always use my premium account and it's crazy. Sometimes within minutes of the ad going up I see a dozen views just from USFreeAds internal traffic. By days end I typically see some ads with over 60 views and it hasn't even been indexed in google but is indexed within 24 hours in most cases.
Hope that helps
rockinrobin
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Log in. Go to Edit Campaigns. There you will see your 8 campaigns listed. To the left of the target url you will see a number. That is the campaign number. Click on it to edit your campaign.
To the right of the target url there is a green 'R'. Click on it to see the report for that campaign. Wait 48 hours after you create a campaign before growing impatient about links.
Is it worth the current price? If so, go for it. If not, it probably isn't worth the discount price. One of the first users of the system is making more money on AdSense per day than TLJ costs per month. He attributes this to TLJ. It took him under two weeks to get there.
Seriously, I have considered your request, and if I go down that route where does it end? When do you close the door? Right now I am getting new signups every day with no promotion. I need to stablise and grow the number of sites supported and improve the user experience before I push for a new big influx of users. Probably not what you wanted to hear but my first priority is my existing customers, and I am fanatical about support and quality of service.
For practical reasons there must be an upper limit on the number of campaigns. I set it at 50 thinking that this would usually be enough. Actually there are users who want to run campaigns on 150 sites!!
If you are only promoting one site, create 3 or 4 campaigns for 3 or 4 pages, including the home page. Then post another 3 or 4 articles on ezine articles, goarticles, article alley etc. Then create one campaign for each article. This should be enough support for one site. Then repeat this for your second, third site etc.
Don't confuse Alex's Googleizer method with Lemonarian's Link Wheel. The latter is actually a wheel with the links going in a circular direction. Googleizer is a star with bookmarks supporting the W2.0 sites which point at your site. Googleizer is a large part of the inspiration of The Link Juicer. If you have spent the hours carefully crafting a network of links the you already appreciate what TLJ does and how cheap it is.
And yes, if you ever stop building the link network, your sites will fade away. Doing it naturally means building a slow but every-increasing network of links. With TLJ you can just slow your link velocity to 1 and leave it on forever.
Just registered.
If the trial version works, the 27 or 37 doens't really matter
A few suggestions here, and i think it's pretty important.
1. The email for Software Dirs should be a different email than our registration email.
I use my own email address to register but I definitely do not want to receive hundred of software related emails to my mailbox.
2. Social Media Accounts - You should written down which account login needs to be email address of username. We usually create all these new account, activated and will not login again. What would be the impact if we put all username as login instead of email address for Vox.
Thanks for the tool and i'm waiting to see how it works.
If the trial version works, the 27 or 37 doens't really matter
A few suggestions here, and i think it's pretty important.
1. The email for Software Dirs should be a different email than our registration email.
I use my own email address to register but I definitely do not want to receive hundred of software related emails to my mailbox.
2. Social Media Accounts - You should written down which account login needs to be email address of username. We usually create all these new account, activated and will not login again. What would be the impact if we put all username as login instead of email address for Vox.
Thanks for the tool and i'm waiting to see how it works.
RiffMaster
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- Dec 20, 2008
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Hi,
I have subscribed to this service. Even though i'm a bit new to this link building strategy i think i'd give it a try. There is still one further suggestion that i would like to make in addition to the one posted above me and one question .
1.When ever i write my spin article in MSword or notepad and copy it back to the spyntax the copied text comes along with blank spaces and new line characters. The spyntax is not able to spin properly if these exists. So everytime i need to align the article to check with the text. If Spyntax is able to recognize blank spaces then it would be a lot better to use spyntax.
2. And for each campaign do i need to generate a unique long text article or can i use the same one that i used in my first campaign. 'Cause the long text article in my first campaign (i think!) might spin quite around to generate some (atleast) 1000 unique articles. So now can i use it up or should i write another separate article for the long text for each campaign?
Apart from this the service is great. I even noticed a query being implemented immediately( the one posted by jiajilah regarding an indication about IDs of bookmarking sites). Its quite impressive. Waiting for the results. I think i'm sure to give a review!
I have subscribed to this service. Even though i'm a bit new to this link building strategy i think i'd give it a try. There is still one further suggestion that i would like to make in addition to the one posted above me and one question .
1.When ever i write my spin article in MSword or notepad and copy it back to the spyntax the copied text comes along with blank spaces and new line characters. The spyntax is not able to spin properly if these exists. So everytime i need to align the article to check with the text. If Spyntax is able to recognize blank spaces then it would be a lot better to use spyntax.
2. And for each campaign do i need to generate a unique long text article or can i use the same one that i used in my first campaign. 'Cause the long text article in my first campaign (i think!) might spin quite around to generate some (atleast) 1000 unique articles. So now can i use it up or should i write another separate article for the long text for each campaign?
Apart from this the service is great. I even noticed a query being implemented immediately( the one posted by jiajilah regarding an indication about IDs of bookmarking sites). Its quite impressive. Waiting for the results. I think i'm sure to give a review!
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Riffmaster, have a look for Power Article Rewriter in the download section. It will make the spinning much easier and you can confirm the spun article before submitting it to the campaign.
nufaman, the blogs are new. New sites take a while to get indexed. If you really want to speed up the process on one of your sites then do your own backlinking on one of the linkjuicer sites that has your link posted. Google will find them the natural way and that can take a few weeks. When I do a backlink search using yahoo on my pages I get quite a few from Linkjuicer already and I have only been using it for a fortnight.
It is pretty obvious this is a low risk solution to backlinking. Low risk has compromises. If you want high risk then find your own solution. Personally I find the high risk method more dangerous as the sites I am campaigning with linkjuicer are designed for long term traffic, not a short term rush.
nufaman, the blogs are new. New sites take a while to get indexed. If you really want to speed up the process on one of your sites then do your own backlinking on one of the linkjuicer sites that has your link posted. Google will find them the natural way and that can take a few weeks. When I do a backlink search using yahoo on my pages I get quite a few from Linkjuicer already and I have only been using it for a fortnight.
It is pretty obvious this is a low risk solution to backlinking. Low risk has compromises. If you want high risk then find your own solution. Personally I find the high risk method more dangerous as the sites I am campaigning with linkjuicer are designed for long term traffic, not a short term rush.
RE: The statement that LinkJuicer is low-risk.
Risk is commensurate with reward.
But yeah, this is low risk. Low risk to your competition, that is!
In other words, it's way too low-risk. I've been using the free trial, and I could do as much manually posting relevant comments to blogs which are already established, and I wouldn't have to worry about registering and reregistering social media accounts!
IMO the "compromise" of watching my competition leave me in the dust, especially if that was due to my own refusal to compete properly, is unacceptable.
More generally:
For a couple of reasons, I've decided that the Link Juicer is not for me.
In the last week, the social media accounts I registered for LinkJuicer have been getting banned. 3 down as of now. I'm sure accounts which were registered by others have suffered the same fate. So it is NOT TRULY AUTOMATED since to keep my own full LinkJuicer account power, I have to babysit these accounts and register new ones as the old ones go offline.
It also means that all the links which were associated with the banned accounts are now GONE. And, all the links which are pointing at the GONE pages are now worthless to me as well. So there's not as much power in LinkJuicer as it would seem--likely, not nearly as much. It has to spend too much time rebuilding, rather than building on.
This thing is like trying to run a commercial kitchen with an Easy Bake Oven.
SENuke, at least, doesn't have the presumptiousness to put limits on its users. If you don't want to run it at full blast, it's up to you. But that's the key: IT'S UP TO YOU. I'd run it faster (but not full blast), you'd run it slower...with a program like SENuke, it's the USER'S choice. Not the choice of someone who apparently made a wrong turn while looking for some kind of White Hat World.
It also will have the banned-account issues, but at least it makes up for it by having a dirt-easy, fast way to make new accounts with a couple of clicks. And a proxy with lots of IPs, which should take away the need to have a big bunch of people registering from different areas.
But if I was concerned about "safety" I sure wouldn't be on BLACK HAT World, at all!
Now for the "coffeemaker vs milkshake maker" part:
Domains are cheap! 79c for a .info!! (<--at GoDaddy at the time of this writing) Worrying about whether one or two of them get a G-ban is insanity. You could buy about 48 a month for the cost of LinkJuicer's regular rate, and have full control of what goes on all of them. With that many domains, it's crazy to care if Google bans some!
And unlike the social media accounts, all the money generated from your own site belongs to you, and there are no nonpaying links to other people's sites for visitors to get away through (unlike with bookmarking accounts).
For these reasons, neither LinkJuicer nor SENuke will get my renewal.
Risk is commensurate with reward.
But yeah, this is low risk. Low risk to your competition, that is!
In other words, it's way too low-risk. I've been using the free trial, and I could do as much manually posting relevant comments to blogs which are already established, and I wouldn't have to worry about registering and reregistering social media accounts!
IMO the "compromise" of watching my competition leave me in the dust, especially if that was due to my own refusal to compete properly, is unacceptable.
More generally:
For a couple of reasons, I've decided that the Link Juicer is not for me.
In the last week, the social media accounts I registered for LinkJuicer have been getting banned. 3 down as of now. I'm sure accounts which were registered by others have suffered the same fate. So it is NOT TRULY AUTOMATED since to keep my own full LinkJuicer account power, I have to babysit these accounts and register new ones as the old ones go offline.
It also means that all the links which were associated with the banned accounts are now GONE. And, all the links which are pointing at the GONE pages are now worthless to me as well. So there's not as much power in LinkJuicer as it would seem--likely, not nearly as much. It has to spend too much time rebuilding, rather than building on.
This thing is like trying to run a commercial kitchen with an Easy Bake Oven.
SENuke, at least, doesn't have the presumptiousness to put limits on its users. If you don't want to run it at full blast, it's up to you. But that's the key: IT'S UP TO YOU. I'd run it faster (but not full blast), you'd run it slower...with a program like SENuke, it's the USER'S choice. Not the choice of someone who apparently made a wrong turn while looking for some kind of White Hat World.
It also will have the banned-account issues, but at least it makes up for it by having a dirt-easy, fast way to make new accounts with a couple of clicks. And a proxy with lots of IPs, which should take away the need to have a big bunch of people registering from different areas.
But if I was concerned about "safety" I sure wouldn't be on BLACK HAT World, at all!
Now for the "coffeemaker vs milkshake maker" part:
Domains are cheap! 79c for a .info!! (<--at GoDaddy at the time of this writing) Worrying about whether one or two of them get a G-ban is insanity. You could buy about 48 a month for the cost of LinkJuicer's regular rate, and have full control of what goes on all of them. With that many domains, it's crazy to care if Google bans some!
And unlike the social media accounts, all the money generated from your own site belongs to you, and there are no nonpaying links to other people's sites for visitors to get away through (unlike with bookmarking accounts).
For these reasons, neither LinkJuicer nor SENuke will get my renewal.
rockinrobin
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- Mar 26, 2009
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There are people around here who don't know what they're talking about, but I don't believe I am one of them.
Absolutely nothing. That is my point.
You clearly have not read the post you are answering nor have you read the posts it is responding to. Google does not include every link it knows about in the SERP when you search link:myscrappysite.com. Furthermore, because Google does not show you www.scrappyblog does not mean Google does not know it is there. When you bookmark www.scrappyblog it DOES get crawled.
You do not know nor will you ever know how many links Google is aware of. You are jumping to the conclusion that if a link does not show up in a link: search the page it is on is not indexed, or that if a blog does not show up in the SERPs that Google has not crawled it.
You are further assuming that because of this (wrong assumption) that the links under question will not benefit your rankings.
Case in point. I created a new page seven days ago, and began a campaign with a link velocity of 3 on a keyword with 3600 searches a month. There are now a little over 20 links including direct and indirect links. The page is steadily climbing in the SERPs and getting 50 uniques a day. When I look for links to it using link: in Google I get ZERO LINKS. I can't tell you how much I don't care that Google doesn't show me the links. Furthermore, the people who come to my site and sign up and give me money don't care either.