Making money... In my case?

[Sherb]

OP,

Tell us what you do want to do

This may be easier...

I can think of 1 career you might like, it will involve spending hours sat on your knee's and I hope you have lack of a gag reflex.

"Not disgusting at all, to me anyway."

-OP

 

[Andraste47]

Ok, I'm going to try to be civil and helpful here.

I can't do anything that involves my personality. E.g. I can't write content.
What exactly do you mean by "personality"? You can write content from persona that is not your own? Example: A lazy, stoner, college kid writing up his term papers in the scholarly "voice" dictated by his professor even tho he speaks like a barbarian most of the time socially. Easily doable, see the previous example. Do you mean exposes any personal information? None of the content I've ever written for the web that wasn't deliberately made to be personal has included personal information. Do you just mean you don't want to personally write the content? Work up some capital and hire it out to a freelancer.

I do not use social media and will not unless it doesn't expose my personality and even the tiniest part of my personal life.
It's really easy to create a "fake" media presence that exposes none of your personal life. I have an "author" facebook and twitter from when I was self publishing that is distinctly different than how I really am. Just build up an "avatar" of who that person is on social media and post how they would post and not yourself. You've said you've written novels so I'm sure you can develop a character to portray on the internet believably. It doesn't need to be scummy and spamy.

I get utterly bored even after 2 cups of coffee doing anything technical too quickly for me to finish it. Exception can be very simple generic HTML/CSS-based sites, but nobody wants that anyway.
You will not write and apparently cannot code at anything more than a super basic level. I'm not sure what else you can do personally. Typical advice is to do or learn to do either of the two.

I do not know many people who are into tech and such, even though I know a lot about tech and such.
You have access to the internet and therefore a have access to about half of the world population. I'm sure some of them are knowledgeable about tech and such. Making friends and networking is not just limited to meatspace. There are many on this and many other forums who are in business together and have never met each other in real life. Get to know people, start conversations, answer questions, and form relationships.

I'm not interested in clicking links and such unless they actually pay at least $5-10/h, which is quite impossible, which makes it a waste of time. Annoying nonetheless...
Most people aren't either and that's why we're here. To get some startup capital you might want to click those links for a while and build up an egg to invest in a quality whitehat site to earn you passive income.

I can leave my PC on 24/7, I have a deal where I get electricity really cheaply. My PC is around 5 years old though...
Yeah, there's really nothing you can do with a 5 year old computer passively that doesn't amount to peanuts. <--Serious

I do not have much money for an investment and I have no way of getting more - at most I could invest around $50, maybe even less.
As I said, click those links for a while and build up some investment capital. Some CEO?s dug ditches, worked as handy men, and worked hard manual labor jobs to build up the capital to start their businesses. You can do a little online ?ditch digging? to get the money to fund your dreams can?t you?

I honestly don't know why you are on this forum. You say that backhat methods and tactics disgust you. That's fine, your morals and values are your own and I admire how tightly you hold to them. There are plenty of whitehat forums out there for you. Maybe you'd have better luck out there on those forums building up a network of people to bounce ideas off of and get more support than you are getting here.

Wow I don't think I even cursed once...

 

[obiwan69]

In reality if you're looking for "easy money" the easiest way is to find yourself a job. Being an entrepreneur is a time consuming task, I bet people like you think "Hey, I'm working online so won't have to put in any effort" regardless you'll have to spend a lot of time to build your empire up from the ground. Go get yourself a job and you can be lazy and don't come in on time and not care about fuck all and just go on with your daily life and not achieve a single thing.

I am a lazy person but holy fuck I have to say, you buddy, you take the prize home. You're one of the laziest pieces of shit I've heard of in a very long time. Good luck to you in life.

 

[blackhatshere]

Ok, I'm going to try to be civil and helpful here.

I can't do anything that involves my personality. E.g. I can't write content.
What exactly do you mean by "personality"? You can write content from persona that is not your own? Example: A lazy, stoner, college kid writing up his term papers in the scholarly "voice" dictated by his professor even tho he speaks like a barbarian most of the time socially. Easily doable, see the previous example. Do you mean exposes any personal information? None of the content I've ever written for the web that wasn't deliberately made to be personal has included personal information. Do you just mean you don't want to personally write the content? Work up some capital and hire it out to a freelancer.

I don't have the skillset for changing my voice like this. It will still include my personality just in a different sense. I can't write like you or someone else here.

As for hiring a freelancer, I don't have the possibility of working up capital, and by doing so I would have to be sure that a project I find somewhat dumb and disagree with on my core level would make me money. In short, not an option.

I do not use social media and will not unless it doesn't expose my personality and even the tiniest part of my personal life.
It's really easy to create a "fake" media presence that exposes none of your personal life. I have an "author" facebook and twitter from when I was self publishing that is distinctly different than how I really am. Just build up an "avatar" of who that person is on social media and post how they would post and not yourself. You've said you've written novels so I'm sure you can develop a character to portray on the internet believably. It doesn't need to be scummy and spamy.

Yes, I can create one or more account by adding totally random people and googling up a picture of someone else. How could I use that for some sort of personal gain?

It is spammy and scummy to my mind still however, and I would not write anything longer than 200 symbols to not expose my personality in any possible way because of that.

I get utterly bored even after 2 cups of coffee doing anything technical too quickly for me to finish it. Exception can be very simple generic HTML/CSS-based sites, but nobody wants that anyway.
You will not write and apparently cannot code at anything more than a super basic level. I'm not sure what else you can do personally. Typical advice is to do or learn to do either of the two.

That sentence was meant to say no to that kind of thing unless it's a very simple generic HTML/CSS-based site, I didn't post it as a problem of any sort.

I do not know many people who are into tech and such, even though I know a lot about tech and such.
You have access to the internet and therefore a have access to about half of the world population. I'm sure some of them are knowledgeable about tech and such. Making friends and networking is not just limited to meatspace. There are many on this and many other forums who are in business together and have never met each other in real life. Get to know people, start conversations, answer questions, and form relationships.

I mentioned it as "in case it matters" kind of thing. I didn't post it as some sort of a problem or something.

I'm not interested in clicking links and such unless they actually pay at least $5-10/h, which is quite impossible, which makes it a waste of time. Annoying nonetheless...
Most people aren't either and that's why we're here. To get some startup capital you might want to click those links for a while and build up an egg to invest in a quality whitehat site to earn you passive income.

Clicking links earns like 0.0001 or even less sometimes. Building $1 would take me months if not years. If it was to earn a couple bucks an hour instead of a couple bucks a life, I might consider it.

I can leave my PC on 24/7, I have a deal where I get electricity really cheaply. My PC is around 5 years old though...
Yeah, there's really nothing you can do with a 5 year old computer passively that doesn't amount to peanuts. <--Serious

Thought so, but I thought I'd mention it anyway just in case.

I do not have much money for an investment and I have no way of getting more - at most I could invest around $50, maybe even less.
As I said, click those links for a while and build up some investment capital. Some CEO?s dug ditches, worked as handy men, and worked hard manual labor jobs to build up the capital to start their businesses. You can do a little online ?ditch digging? to get the money to fund your dreams can?t you?

Point me to a site that pays a couple bucks an hour and I will, but if it's the same 0.00001 then it's pointless.

I honestly don't know why you are on this forum. You say that backhat methods and tactics disgust you. That's fine, your morals and values are your own and I admire how tightly you hold to them. There are plenty of whitehat forums out there for you. Maybe you'd have better luck out there on those forums building up a network of people to bounce ideas off of and get more support than you are getting here.

Wow I don't think I even cursed once...

I'm here because I was hoping to get some suggestion that I haven't thought about yet because I don't think about illegal or close to that ways of making money. Of legal and "good" stuff, I have thought of a lot of things already. Besides, whitehat usually means SEO as far as I can tell. I appreciate answering politely and trying to help instead of taking it personally for whatever reason.

In reality if you're looking for "easy money" the easiest way is to find yourself a job. Being an entrepreneur is a time consuming task, I bet people like you think "Hey, I'm working online so won't have to put in any effort" regardless you'll have to spend a lot of time to build your empire up from the ground. Go get yourself a job and you can be lazy and don't come in on time and not care about fuck all and just go on with your daily life and not achieve a single thing.

I am a lazy person but holy fuck I have to say, you buddy, you take the prize home. You're one of the laziest pieces of shit I've heard of in a very long time. Good luck to you in life.

Not in everyone's case. And as I said many times, I'm not looking for "easy money."

 

[obadadiah]

And as I said many times, I'm not looking for "easy money."

As someone with a sort of DP/DR thing, I relate a lot to your requirements, and didn't assume you were looking for easy money at all. Some possibilities...

1. Transcribing A/V on MTurk.

A source length of 20 minutes earns about $5. I know people who are fast can complete them in 3-4x the time, i.e. 60-80 minutes for 20 minutes of audio. That works out to $4-5/hr. Not much to live on, but if you're intentionally homeless it's great.

The catch: it takes some elbow grease to learn the transcription style guidelines. And, unfortunately, the workers who proofread your work do not always follow them, which means your rating can be penalized for no reason.

2. Ticket scalping.

Normally it's infeasible to compete with the bots and captcha armies at sale time on Ticketmaster. But allegedly there are a few ways to get premium seats at reg. price:

• TM releases tickets in waves, at randomly chosen times over the few hours after sale opening. This gives them time to block bot IPs and give legitimate buyers a fair chance.
  
• TM reserves a pool of tickets for purchase exclusively within the iPhone and Android apps, since these are safeguarded from bot abuse. ALSO, if you enable push notifications, you do not have to enter a captcha. Theoretically, you could emulate several Android devices simultaneously on a desktop computer and route them through separate VPNs, to purchase more tickets simultaneously.
• If you don't mind talking on the phone, there's a good trick on wikiHow. Can't link to it cause I'm a junior member. Search for "How to Get Great Seats for a Concert"

Hypothetically, you could then flip them to scalpers on StubHub by undercutting their prices.

The catch: it takes some effort to research which events are likely to sell out, to avoid getting stuck with unmarketable tickets.

3. Cash out a FX market edge.

If you're disciplined and intelligent, I know for a fact it's possible to study yourself into the less-than-5% of FX traders who don't lose money overall.

There are a couple of ways to cash out a market edge without having to invest anything, and with zero risk.

• FX demo contests. Most are offshore and don't accept U.S. clients, but a few do. ForexBrokerInc is one. Payouts are typically deposited into a live account with the broker; some can be withdrawn immediately, others are a "credit bonus" that presumably you'd have to wager before cashing out, but you can probably do this safely with hedging.
• Sell your trading signals on a subscription basis. As you can imagine, there's huge demand for signals with a good track record. You wouldn't have to write ads if you just copy & paste someone else's, change a few words, and include a spreadsheet of your paper trades or demo account record.
  

The catch: realistically it's difficult to find a legit edge AND make it work for you personally. ForexFactory and BabyPips (but especially FF) are great resources. Also, the New York session is awful after London closes, so depending on location this may be nightowl/graveyard work.

4. Matched betting and its U.S. analogues.

MB is awesome if you live outside the U.S. Otherwise you can do the same using Forex welcome bonuses. Simply hedge a trade across two different brokers using bonus funds. IF you have a friend you can open separate accounts on the same broker. Obviously you'd want more than $50 to do this, but since there's virtually no risk you could probably use credit.

The catch: unless you have friends or plan to build fake identities (which is illegal), this only works once for each broker.

5. BTC/Vanilla trading. (sketchy but technically not illegal?)

The huge discount on Vanilla cards at LocalBitcoins is in most (though not all) cases due to the cards being purchased with stolen CCs. However, sometimes it's just a premium offered by the seller for the risk to you due to others' illegal activity. Since it's not always possible to distinguish which case you're dealing with, I don't expect any legal issue with buying these to liquidate. But please do not take my word for it.

The catch: it's really sketchy to have to use carding techniques to cash out. Personally I'd never do this and don't recommend it.