this big youtubers

[TehVigilant]

Do you think most of them viewbot or paid some views in the early days to get big?

 

[IbuildEmpires]

I think they just created good content. Also, nowadays youtube's algorithm has changed. retention > view

 

[TehVigilant]

Good content? I see some stupid stuff getting millions, that cant be the case...I mean not all of them have botted views ofc.

 

[Deleted member 719276]

Yep I remember a guy, who was botting like crazy back in the days. A lot of views and subscribers and almost 0 comments on all of his videos. He had submitted his channel on random youtube views exchange websites... he even asked me something like "Hey dude you want S4S"
And look at him now ... almost 2 million subs.

https://www.youtube.com/user/Onision

 

[Banned member 185991]

They absolutely botted views - but for every one that botted views and made it big 100 didn't.

They were just serious about YouTube. You will never ever get big on there unless you are entertaining and do great video work.

 

[TehVigilant]

how did he not get banned or smth?

 

[The Willow]

A lot did bot views yes. Just how it works on youtube..

 

[TehVigilant]

Can you get banned now for botting?

 

[Deleted member 719276]

how did he not get banned or smth?

No idea ... some people get lucky there was also 1 other guy, he even played in my Minecraft server when I was like 15 lol. He decided to make a youtube channel ( I was watching him really closely) and wtf I remember I was getting ready for school and decided to check his acc again and DAFUQ ... he had 10k subs + a lot of views and absolutely no comments. I was like "dudeeee this is not how it works".
Now he has 1,799,921 subs...

 

[TehVigilant]

No idea ... some people get lucky there was also 1 other guy, he even played in my Minecraft server when I was like 15 lol. He decided to make a youtube channel ( I was watching him really closely) and wtf I remember I was getting ready for school and decided to check his acc again and DAFUQ ... he had 10k subs + a lot of views and absolutely no comments. I was like "dudeeee this is not how it works".
Now he has 1,799,921 subs...

Is there any good social exchange website now or its only safe to buy high retention views?

 

[Deleted member 719276]

Is there any good social exchange website now or its only safe to buy high retention views?

I have no idea, maybe this can help out: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ncreasers-largest-list-bhw-updated-daily.html
The thread is old and not all of the websites in the list are working now.

 

[TehVigilant]

I checked it out most dont work anymore. Is high retention views safe?

 

[K1d1nk]

You have to be unique with unique content. Everything else is just copy&paste.

 

[Mezzeric]

Yes. Even big company like VEVO did bought billions of views for their musicians! You can Google the news about it.

 

[anika14]

Yes. Even big company like VEVO did bought billions of views for their musicians! You can Google the news about it.

What if my channel is still new? Can i still rank my videos by just buying views? If so how many?
Thanks

 

[TehVigilant]

What if my channel is still new? Can i still rank my videos by just buying views? If so how many?
Thanks

I was wondering the same thing, if high retention views are still an option.

 

[nakaam30]

you can't rank just by buying views, you need likes, comments and subscribers. youtube is very good at detecting views, likes and subsribers generated by bots so you need something that can simulate genuin real user activities to bypass youtube detection

I was wondering the same thing, if high retention views are still an option.

 

[TehVigilant]

you can't rank just by buying views, you need likes, comments and subscribers. youtube is very good at detecting views, likes and subsribers generated by bots so you need something that can simulate genuin real user activities to bypass youtube detection

Thats why I asked about the high retention views...