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- Dec 4, 2013
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A network of 120 ministites got 90 of them axed in Google. Deindexed.
They were all:
- using the same (true) PBN
- using the same template/setup
- whatever way you look at the minisites you can find a fingerprint that ties them together. be it mostly same type of ads, same tracking javascript code (not GA, but nonetheless), same specific type of info in the <head> tag, same amount of ads, mostly same text in ads, same amount of content, same type of outgoing links.
- hosted on 4 hosts, spread over 30 different IPs. so 4 minisites per IP, 30 ministes per host.
The fun part:
- a few sites that got deindexed haven't had incoming links (from that PBN) for a year. you would think maybe someone scraped them and since they had no incoming link power, they got hit because scraped copies had more power. yet they were deindexed along with many the rest that weren't scraped yet. so it wasn't duplicates.
- whatever way I try to analyze what happened, panda, penguin, hosts, links, overoptimization, content, same template... whenever I find a reason that sticks out at one minisite that got deindexed I then find a minisite with the same characteristics that didn't get deindexed. it kept the ranks and all.
I thought it was penguin, but then it hit me there are minisites that had NO links for a year and they got deindexed. ok so it wasn't penguin. I thought panda. ok, maybe so, but I was thinking if it was panda they should get axed for that long ago (some of these were 1.5 years old!). then it hit me there are 30 minisites that didn't get deindexed that use the same setup. so it wasn't panda.
Then I thought Google went after the network of minisites. someone must have reported a minisite and spam team hit it and other ministes having the same fingerprint. But then 75% success rate is ridiculous, especially when the network has a clear fingerprint. They should have hit all of them. 100%.
So what's the catch? Any ideas?
P.S.: one other interesting thing:
the minisites that had links removed from the PBN a year ago and also weren't updated for a year kept some ranks on Google. they were gradually losing them, but still traffic from Google was there. For a YEAR! Majority of those now got deindexed.
They were all:
- using the same (true) PBN
- using the same template/setup
- whatever way you look at the minisites you can find a fingerprint that ties them together. be it mostly same type of ads, same tracking javascript code (not GA, but nonetheless), same specific type of info in the <head> tag, same amount of ads, mostly same text in ads, same amount of content, same type of outgoing links.
- hosted on 4 hosts, spread over 30 different IPs. so 4 minisites per IP, 30 ministes per host.
The fun part:
- a few sites that got deindexed haven't had incoming links (from that PBN) for a year. you would think maybe someone scraped them and since they had no incoming link power, they got hit because scraped copies had more power. yet they were deindexed along with many the rest that weren't scraped yet. so it wasn't duplicates.
- whatever way I try to analyze what happened, panda, penguin, hosts, links, overoptimization, content, same template... whenever I find a reason that sticks out at one minisite that got deindexed I then find a minisite with the same characteristics that didn't get deindexed. it kept the ranks and all.
I thought it was penguin, but then it hit me there are minisites that had NO links for a year and they got deindexed. ok so it wasn't penguin. I thought panda. ok, maybe so, but I was thinking if it was panda they should get axed for that long ago (some of these were 1.5 years old!). then it hit me there are 30 minisites that didn't get deindexed that use the same setup. so it wasn't panda.
Then I thought Google went after the network of minisites. someone must have reported a minisite and spam team hit it and other ministes having the same fingerprint. But then 75% success rate is ridiculous, especially when the network has a clear fingerprint. They should have hit all of them. 100%.
So what's the catch? Any ideas?
P.S.: one other interesting thing:
the minisites that had links removed from the PBN a year ago and also weren't updated for a year kept some ranks on Google. they were gradually losing them, but still traffic from Google was there. For a YEAR! Majority of those now got deindexed.