PR6+ To 301 Redirect Site (strategy test)

[sweetiepee]

Hello Everyone!

I would like to say it is a great pleasure to be surrounded by so many intelligent people here on BlackHatWorld! I wanted to get a little feedback on a method I am thinking about implementing for my next website ranking project.

OK so here is my idea, in my last project I used GSA Search Engine Ranker Services with a very popular link shortening service. I blasted the shortened link with GSA for quite a while (it has been for over a week now). I have gathered some information that the method that I was using may not be effective anymore, I ran into a very knowledgeable source that informed me that Google caught on to where GSA search engine ranker where getting the links (web 2.0, etc.) and started phasing out this kind of link building strategy with the Google Penguin 3.0+ updates.

This would explain why my money site has been bouncing all over the place! After my first gig I was ranked on the second page of Google for my selected keyword, the following days after that my ranking decreased rather quickly (page 3 to 4, and now to page 7). I would imagine by next week my money site will be deindexed and will quickly disappear, but no worries!

What I want to do for my next project is build a 301 redirect site, and instead of using the link shortening service, I will use high quality PR6+ sites to directly link to the 301redirect site, I may even consider throwing in some aged Private Blog Domains (2 - 16 years) I hear they are very effective for ranking purposes! In this strategy I will not be linking to sites that are not PR6+ to my 301 redirect site.

So how do you all like this strategy? Has anyone tried something similar? If so please share your experience. Thanks!

 

[Zekie]

Blasting anything with GSA is a bad idea, why not just build slowly? It works great if you don't go crazy with it, build 5 links per day on contextual platforms, the problem is not the tool, it's the strategy implored while using it.

Additionally, you might as well get it engrained in your thinking process that you should build slowly on everything, you will have the same results if you decide to blast a bunch of 301's at your site. Honestly you can get away with nearly anything if you go slowly because there's not as much scrutiny on your sites. Once you implore a strategy where you are doing this, you will be thankful, getting long term success on your investments. In the end you will have an asset that you can sell. If you are expecting immediate results in SEO you are setting yourself up for disappointment and discouragement.

You will get it in the long run!

Peace,
Z

 

[davids355]

So you are 301 redirecting expired pr6+ sites to your money site? Or you are doing something like that but with an additional layer of redirects?
I think 301 redirect is pretty well known strategy now but you need to look more carefully at metrics other than pr (TF/CF/PA/DA etc).

 

[Faith]

Well i think its a risky plan. Why not go white hat?
So the setup is PBN -> PR6+ Site -> 301 Redirect -> Money site?

 

[laurentiukendo]

I also believe that the best way is to do it slowly.Otherwise you will not have long term profits.

 

[davids355]

You could do it more whitehat way and have some of the PR6+ sites set up with content etc and just use them as standard PBN and link to your money site, then bkeep building links to those PBNs. Much safer.

However, by the sounds of the previous strategy that OP is employing he is going for churn and burn, so in that case what you are suggesting might work well..

 

[sweetiepee]

Blasting anything with GSA is a bad idea, why not just build slowly? It works great if you don't go crazy with it, build 5 links per day on contextual platforms, the problem is not the tool, it's the strategy implored while using it.

Additionally, you might as well get it engrained in your thinking process that you should build slowly on everything, you will have the same results if you decide to blast a bunch of 301's at your site. Honestly you can get away with nearly anything if you go slowly because there's not as much scrutiny on your sites. Once you implore a strategy where you are doing this, you will be thankful, getting long term success on your investments. In the end you will have an asset that you can sell. If you are expecting immediate results in SEO you are setting yourself up for disappointment and discouragement.

You will get it in the long run!

Peace,
Z

Thank you Zekie for your feedback!

 

[sweetiepee]

Well i think its a risky plan. Why not go white hat?
So the setup is PBN -> PR6+ Site -> 301 Redirect -> Money site?

Thank you faithjhung for your feedback! Good idea!

 

[sweetiepee]

You could do it more whitehat way and have some of the PR6+ sites set up with content etc and just use them as standard PBN and link to your money site, then bkeep building links to those PBNs. Much safer.

However, by the sounds of the previous strategy that OP is employing he is going for churn and burn, so in that case what you are suggesting might work well..

Thank you davids355 for you feedback!

 

[sweetiepee]

So you are 301 redirecting expired pr6+ sites to your money site? Or you are doing something like that but with an additional layer of redirects?
I think 301 redirect is pretty well known strategy now but you need to look more carefully at metrics other than pr (TF/CF/PA/DA etc).

Thank you for you feedback!

 

[fc-dh]

Blasting anything with GSA is a bad idea, why not just build slowly? It works great if you don't go crazy with it, build 5 links per day on contextual platforms, the problem is not the tool, it's the strategy implored while using it.

Additionally, you might as well get it engrained in your thinking process that you should build slowly on everything, you will have the same results if you decide to blast a bunch of 301's at your site. Honestly you can get away with nearly anything if you go slowly because there's not as much scrutiny on your sites. Once you implore a strategy where you are doing this, you will be thankful, getting long term success on your investments. In the end you will have an asset that you can sell. If you are expecting immediate results in SEO you are setting yourself up for disappointment and discouragement.

You will get it in the long run!

Peace,
Z

You have any data that supports your claim that you have to build links slow? Please show us cus none of my test results show that velocity is a problem, that would be really wierd because when something is "new" you would expect a higher velocity links/shares etc...

You people really don't know anything about SEO, you never have done a SEO test in your life, you people read MOZ and seargengineland and think that if i say what they say i will be seen as a expert, well........ you're not!

And i will be here calling you n00bs out and ask for the data that holds up your scaryhat claims, because i am sick of people pretending to be an expert and sent people the wrong way just because they don't know shit....

Sorry OP en rant lol

 

[Rendezvend]

Have you tried direct pbn links? Not sure how real those pr6s would be.

 

[sweetiepee]

You have any data that supports your claim that you have to build links slow? Please show us cus none of my test results show that velocity is a problem, that would be really wierd because when something is "new" you would expect a higher velocity links/shares etc...

You people really don't know anything about SEO, you never have done a SEO test in your life, you people read MOZ and seargengineland and think that if i say what they say i will be seen as a expert, well........ you're not!

And i will be here calling you n00bs out and ask for the data that holds up your scaryhat claims, because i am sick of people pretending to be an expert and sent people the wrong way just because they don't know shit....

Sorry OP en rant lol

Thank you for your feedback fc-dh! Would you mind giving me a couple of tips? You do not have to reply anymore to this thread if you think that you will be giving away too much information. I will just PM you. Thanks again !

 

[sweetiepee]

Have you tried direct pbn links? Not sure how real those pr6s would be.

Hi Rendezvend! No I have not tried pbn links. I may consider this in the future. Thank you for your time and feedback.

 

[Zekie]

You have any data that supports your claim that you have to build links slow? Please show us cus none of my test results show that velocity is a problem, that would be really wierd because when something is "new" you would expect a higher velocity links/shares etc...

You people really don't know anything about SEO, you never have done a SEO test in your life, you people read MOZ and seargengineland and think that if i say what they say i will be seen as a expert, well........ you're not!

And i will be here calling you n00bs out and ask for the data that holds up your scaryhat claims, because i am sick of people pretending to be an expert and sent people the wrong way just because they don't know shit....

Sorry OP en rant lol

Keep dreaming dude, I've been doing BH on and off for about 12 years but took time off while getting my degree in IT. When Traffic Equalizer was brand new, I owned it. You are a clown that has no idea what you are talking about. Please tell me about all of your churn and burn sites and how they have lasted for years.

Z

 

[sweetiepee]

Hi All,

Oh no. This thread is starting to move in a direction that I would not like it to go. Please moderators close thread. I would like to thank everyone who shared their feedback, it really does mean a lot .

 

[fc-dh]

Keep dreaming dude, I've been doing BH on and off for about 12 years but took time off while getting my degree in IT. When Traffic Equalizer was brand new, I owned it. You are a clown that has no idea what you are talking about. Please tell me about all of your churn and burn sites and how they have lasted for years.

Z

Well then show me the data, if you're such an expert and you make some bold claims then you must have done some testing, just show the data that creating more then 5 backlinks per day tank your site like you claim and i will show you my C&B sites that are doing great, ohw and i have been doing this since 2003, even before "Traffic Equalizer" came out i worked with a self modified version of RSSGM (Real Simple Site Generator much better than TE ever was) and killing it, so stop your dick weaving and just show me the data.

 

[asap1]

You have any data that supports your claim that you have to build links slow? Please show us cus none of my test results show that velocity is a problem, that would be really wierd because when something is "new" you would expect a higher velocity links/shares etc...

You people really don't know anything about SEO, you never have done a SEO test in your life, you people read MOZ and seargengineland and think that if i say what they say i will be seen as a expert, well........ you're not!

And i will be here calling you n00bs out and ask for the data that holds up your scaryhat claims, because i am sick of people pretending to be an expert and sent people the wrong way just because they don't know shit....

Sorry OP en rant lol

I love this post and a few others of yours I read.

People and their scaryhats get on my nerves everyday

SEO is easy but these "SEO gurus" feed people bullshit and make it seem like one mistake and your site will be penalized.

And then the people that read it spread it even more.

 

[fc-dh]

I love this post and a few others of yours I read.

People and their scaryhats get on my nerves everyday

SEO is easy but these "SEO gurus" feed people bullshit and make it seem like one mistake and your site will be penalized.

And then the people that read it spread it even more.

People like that (scaryhat SEO "experts") annoy the shit out of me, every thread you see them, don't build backlinks, use high quality content, Google will do that and Google will do this, and they get that shit from MOZ, WF and other google mouthpieces and come here and pretend to be an expert, and i KNOW for a fact that what they are claiming is bullshit, noty because i am so smart but because i test everything, and if you really do some serious testing you will find out that these Google mouthpieces are wrong almost every single time.

If people stopped asking questions to n00bs and start investing in some decent R&D for their business they will be provided with all the answers they need, and then some, look i am a nerd when it comes to testing stuff, i spent way to much money on ideas that never fly, but i love that, i love figuring out how i can beat the game, i love the puzzle, and it is exactly like you said SEO is easy, it is just an algo, nothing more. I have said this before Google can't do 50% of what it claims and it doesn't have to because of their great way of misinforming webmasters, they are the absolute masters at misinformation, and all people have to do is take their claims and test it if they are true.

I really wonder why people come to a blackhat forum and start advice people you can't use more then 5 backlinks per day 0_o

BHW used to be filled with people that really knew shit, now it is filled with SEO wannabee's that parrot the Google propaganda, they should at least stay in the white-hat section cus that is where they belong and not interfere with real BH stuff. but that is just my modest option of course