2 Reasons Newbies Don't Make Money from BHW Methods

[fferraz]

Well, other reason for many people (not only newbies) to fail in so many methods is geolocation.
For example, I live in Brazil, and methods like the Amazon store affiliates or Ebay will not work for my country.
The internet market and marketing outside the US is different in continents and in countries.

When you don't live in the US, you have to sift all the methods you can find and then see what could fit and possibly work for you country of residence.

Also pre-made minisites, salespages, salesletters and videos present another difficulty and additional work, since you will have to translate them to your language.

People have different consumer habits all around the world, and that also applies to the online market.

 

[splishsplash]

Well, other reason for many people (not only newbies) to fail in so many methods is geolocation.
For example, I live in Brazil, and methods like the Amazon store affiliates or Ebay will not work for my country.
The internet market and marketing outside the US is different in continents and in countries.

When you don't live in the US, you have to sift all the methods you can find and then see what could fit and possibly work for you country of residence.

Also pre-made minisites, salespages, salesletters and videos present another difficulty and additional work, since you will have to translate them to your language.

People have different consumer habits all around the world, and that also applies to the online market.

What?

I'm in the UK and I promote exclusively for the US market.

Since when in business are you restricted to your domiciled country? What's stopping you getting US hosting and ranking a site in the US and sending US traffic?

 

[anthonywales]

Number 2 reason is the most common, and no way OP's are gonna give their bread and butter techniques, niches , ideas or whatever methods they currently are milking out. Its like old clothes that you give to charities, but you cant give the ones you recently bought especially your fav jerseys....lol reality bites

 

[ImRileyWilliams]

I am a newbie and found that some threads can be over exaggerated. It has taken me a long time to understand alot of things on this site but now I am making some nice income through a simple niche blog. I don't think that newbies cant make money its just they cant make crazy money like they hear in some oversold threads.

 

[topakins]

I'm not sure if it's not against forum rules to press 'thanks' for everyone that has contributed so far, but it sure has been some great advice here, especially from the more senior members. Thank you, everyone!

There are plenty of people who come to this forum either to scam people, or to make up bullsh1t success stories in order to sell their sh1t to naive members.

That tends to be when you see senior members stepping in and calling bullsh1t.

And when they do it, they are doing it to protect newbies, or the gullible, or the naive, or the desperate from losing their money.

But you'll still agree with me that some people come here to badmouth others who might be trying to help. You people call it 'hating'.

 

[Peter Ngo]

Well, other reason for many people (not only newbies) to fail in so many methods is geolocation.
For example, I live in Brazil, and methods like the Amazon store affiliates or Ebay will not work for my country.
The internet market and marketing outside the US is different in continents and in countries.

When you don't live in the US, you have to sift all the methods you can find and then see what could fit and possibly work for you country of residence.

Also pre-made minisites, salespages, salesletters and videos present another difficulty and additional work, since you will have to translate them to your language.

People have different consumer habits all around the world, and that also applies to the online market.

Meh, you are marketing online and you see Geolocation as a disadvantage...

 

[alias2002]

May be you're right. Will try to follow guideline.

 

[ttmschine]

Having tried to help a family member recently (I've been earning my own keep online for 8 years) my conclusions as to why people fail is 2 fold:

1) Most newbs get it into their head that making some money online is "easy" or the "lazy mans way" to get rich. They can't associate it with being a career and having to put in hard work.

Said family member has done nothing but try to find shortcuts and easier methods to do everything I've given him to do, even when I progressively made the jobs easier, right down to sending targeted emails, instead of listening to me and sending 50 to 60 per sales pitch, he was sending it to 10.

He just couldn't see that every failure was due to lack of effort and application, and instead decided to re-write the email that has worked just fine for me - even while I was sat at the side of him showing him - because "it musn't be professional enough".

So with advice from his mum (yes, his MOTHER!) who knows even less than he does about what I'm doing or how it works, he turned a short, simple, successful email into a long winded spammy, scammy sounding blathering pile of crap, and then was cock a hoop when he started getting replies from it.

He couldn't comprehend that emails saying "do not ever contact us again" or "feck off you scamming b*st*rd" are NOT a result.

This leads me into the second reason:

2) They just don't listen.

People who have been doing anything for any length of time generally know what they are doing, and have developed the process over time to something that works as efficiently as possible.

Newbs, unless they are very lucky or super smart, are not going to pick up something new and find better ways of doing it.

So they don't put in the effort, and then question the method when nothing happens.

Then repeat the failing process over and over again.

 

[Reviewergal]

I personally fell flat on my face on the past because I had little direction and no passion for what I was doing. I was only had a vague idea that I wanted to make money using the Internet. The end. So yes, I failed spectacularly.

Once I noticed a pattern, realized there is no guaranteed 100% full proof method, I was able to find a way to make money using my own interests, experience, and knowledge. Now I am in s place where I can dedicate myself to reaching that next level and earning a decent income with IM. While I may initially partner with, or hire, someone to be more efficient I don't believe a mentor is necessary.

Also, as others have mentioned laziness is the kiss of death for a lot of IM ventures. I attempted to help someone I know personally break into IM following a pretty straight forward model that I personally used in the past. Since I made a small amount of money I felt they should be able to make more than I did based on the initial help I provided and the amount of time they had on their hands. Of course, absolutely nothing happened and I just wasted time and money.

My friendwanted to be successful, she wanted to make money, but she didn't want to actually work. She had this "if I build it they will come" mentality and worse she always put things off. Why do it today if you can just worry about it tomorrow was her mentality. Needless to say she never accomplished anything and to this day is mystified by her lack of success. Sadly that mentality is very common and for every person willing, ready, and able to take action there are three other people sitting around complaining.

 

[GiorgioB]

work smart, don't work hard

edit: many newbies fall for something very close to a sales pitch. we're in the marketing business remember? it's like those adverts for cleaning products where in 1 wipe your floor that is black with dirt becomes sparkling white. In real, you have to scrub a little harder

 

[V]

Lol, I don't know why you need a mentor if you've got BHW. I too thought the same in the beginning, but then I implemented the methods and I learned a great deal instead of waiting for someone else to spoonfeed me. I thought that it was hard, and I was missing something, that something missing was self confidence. I tried so many methods, some made me less money some made more but there wasn't any method which didn't work at all after giving my all in. You should not lose hope mate , and keep working harder.

 

[Paper-Boy]

IMO, all newbies should read think and grow rich.

It gives you the proper mindset and knowledge of people who made at least a million dollars.

Best book I've read so far.

 

[Mclovinn]

When someone shares a working method, it doesn't mean it worked outright the first time for him/her. There's a lot of effort/time in testing, trying different strategies applied before it turns out into a successful method. Usually these obstacles/strategies/failures are not covered when the method is posted and are left to the ones who try it. This is the main reason, why successful people can seamless switch or add twist to any simple method and make it a successful one.

When newbies try to replicate a method shared here, tend to set the same expectation of the results mentioned in the OP. When they see different results a little different, they come to a conclusion that the method isn't working and they give up. Most newbies ever cross this phase.

Even if you get only a fraction of the result of what the original method has achieved, you should consider it as success and continue to work more on it. As more effort you put in, you'll learn and understand more details and then the method takes actually some shape for you to try and apply different strategies.

And that's the reason experienced marketers insist on adding your own twist to the methods. Of course, you can't think of any twists/strategies unless you run few tests without giving up after the first time failure. This is how you'll be able to create your own methods instead of relying on others to post them(and the failure cycle continues).

I've read this so many times on BHW - just apply your own "twist" and come up with your own awesome method.

It's very easy to say, but total noobs who come on this forum are not going to have a clue how to do so.

For example the "twist" could be a different traffic source, but someone who is new to IM is not going to just suddenly think of one.

 

[splishsplash]

I've read this so many times on BHW - just apply your own "twist" and come up with your own awesome method.

It's very easy to say, but total noobs who come on this forum are not going to have a clue how to do so.

For example the "twist" could be a different traffic source, but someone who is new to IM is not going to just suddenly think of one.

You say that like it's something we as a community need to address.

Boohoo, someone who's desperately craving money but doesn't want to work isn't going to have a clue.

Instead of crying that they're not going to become an overnight millionaire from a couple hours of work after reading a thread on a forum they just found perhaps they should devote the next 5 years of their life to becoming an expert in business and IM.

 

[Goodi OG]

bump. Worth reading!

 

[PHPInjected]

bump. Worth reading!

A 4 year old thread. Some of you guys really are experts at the search function.

 

[Goodi OG]

A 4 year old thread. Some of you guys really are experts at the search function.

Lol, BHW search function kind of sucks. I just through members post

 

[splishsplash]

You say that like it's something we as a community need to address.

Boohoo, someone who's desperately craving money but doesn't want to work isn't going to have a clue.

Instead of crying that they're not going to become an overnight millionaire from a couple hours of work after reading a thread on a forum they just found perhaps they should devote the next 5 years of their life to becoming an expert in business and IM.

Eeek! Calm down, buddy!

 

[JayMay]

It's quite fascinating to read these old threads, there's just something about them

 

[ShahGee]

There are still huge good no of opportunities making money from learning bhw. Common sense and twist needed.