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Note: I do know what I'm talking about -- lets just say I've been inside the plex and KNOW from actual writing of detection code...

SnowWhite's concerns are right on, concerning networks that require you to insert code that is part of the displayed HTML. Usually this code is *constant* and thus provides an easy footprint for Google to identify and penalize.

What stealthisblog is suggesting is a way to avoid the identifying footprints that Google identifies and penalizes. Because the PHP code you insert into your site queries stealthisblog's server from the backend, you get HTML back to display in your site and it *can* be generated in a way that will avoid identifying footprints. This does take care and thoughtful design, but it sounds like stealthisblog and his cohorts have thought this through and know what theyre doing.

I'm hoping that this is really a good solution to the problem of being penalized by Google for link exchanges, and that this works. Need to find somewhere that allows insertion of user supplied PHP in a hosted site... Does anyone know of such a thing?
 
Where should i put the code? I am confuse here and i am adding it to my wordpress blog.
 
This looks pretty promising and I'm excited to see it come to fruition. Fleshjoe is right in that using a sort of php include is the way to go with this thing to minimize (and hopefully eliminate) a footprint.

With all that being said, I thing you need to add a little more information, or an FAQ, on your site as to how you calculate how many links we get. DP uses the "weight" philosophy and I'm assuming you have something similar. A little more detail would be helpful. Looking forward to you pulling this thing off!
 
@FleshJoe - thanks for explaining this to everyone! As long as we make these links look as legit as possible and never have a single identifying characteristic to distinguish them from normal links we should all be good!

@blackhatjohn - upload the first file via ftp or cpanel to your index directory. Then plug the code in the third step into the bottom of your index.php, then complete the second step.

@bobfrapples - Yeah, I'll work on a faq today, thanks!

Also everyone, an Adult Content Filter has been added today!
 
Are there any limits to the number of sites you can add? I'm asking this because I just attempted to add another site to the network (currently have 2 on it) and I had a funny javascript message pop up that said, and I quote "NAH!" when I tried to submit.


Edit: I'm a retard, the problem was on my end, disregard. :o
 
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Looking forward to trying this out soon as a test... I'll wait a bit for trying it on any crucial sties. I certainly have concerns (as the hottie mentioned) but also expectation. I know with the Jonathan Ledger network links are added gradually, is that the same here? I realize you said the link are mixed/shuffled every few days, is this to give the impression that link s are being added and removed as might normally happen?
 
OP, suggestions for your network

allow the user of your site to set a filename for the script you have them use (removes that footprint)

ASP support as I know myself and a few others have windows servers for some of our sites.
 
@cchance - good suggestions, thanks :D I think I'm going to make the filename random all the time, instead of letting the user pick.

As for asp, I needa learn the basics to make the script... it shouldnt be too hard though, its basic code...
 
OP, suggestions for your network

allow the user of your site to set a filename for the script you have them use (removes that footprint)

ASP support as I know myself and a few others have windows servers for some of our sites.

This is an absolutely essential suggestion to implement. We can't have any identifying footprints such as filenames. It's also important not to have the link back to the exchange site appear in every included link list, thats another footprint. Sorry, but stealthisblog can't have any preferred treatment, LOL :)

cchance with the addition of the first suggestion you make, I think someone can reimplement this in ASP or whatever technology works for you, and then you can play in stealthisblog's network. Not 100% sure of course but it seems that way from my examination of the PHP code. All that code does is answer requests with specific parameters to e.g. store new links, see that the key is valid, etc. You can implement that in any language as long as you can respond to POST requests.

I'll make another two suggestions for stealthisblog:

* Make the HTML you generate for the links be absolutely free of any footprints -- no predefined DOM element names, predefined CSS classes, or tags.
* Make the name of the file to store the HTML in also configurable, another footprint removed.

Next step, a generalization of the adult filter, is to allow people to choose keywords for their site. This will ensure their links are displayed on relevant sites and that they are displaying links that google would expect them to actually accept for link exchange.

Example: w/o niche-ing, a golf site would display links about nose hair removal, a sure sign to google of either a farm or an automated link exchange. With niche-ing, a golf site would display links about golf, golf balls, golf course, golf vacations, etc etc etc.
 
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This can be dangerous
this can devaluate your site, get it dropped from the SERP or totally get you banned

Thanks for pointing that out.. now many people will just add their competitors' site in that system now. ;)
 
Thanks for pointing that out.. now many people will just add their competitors' site in that system now. ;)

How would you add a competitor's site to a link network, you don't have access to their site.
 
How would you add a competitor's site to a link network, you don't have access to their site.

DrzMedia might be thinking of something else

anyway, if the OP claims that this new link network has a unique footprint which google cant easily detect, then lets try it

maybe use it to one of my doorways
 
I'm impressed... I thought Networks like DP's linking thingy were dead
I'm sure going to try this ;)
 
Just signed up and going to add a couple of sites.

It would be nice to have more than 1 anchor text option. If there were 3 maybe give the 1st choice 60% and the other 2 20%.

It looks good.

Thanks.
 
I uploaded the php and html to my ftp and then aded the code on the bottom of index.php and still getting a failed msg...
Does anyone have this problem? I am using it on WP
 
I decided to disable this network on my sites, because the footprint currently is too obvious. Please randomize the text atop the section, and make sure not to always include a link back to the link exchange network.

Once that is fixed, I'll be happy to participate.

StealThisBlog I also sent you email.

Cheers, good stuff, only needs a tiny little bit of improvement before it becomes ultra powerful.
 
I uploaded the php and html to my ftp and then aded the code on the bottom of index.php and still getting a failed msg...
Does anyone have this problem? I am using it on WP

I put it in the index.php at the root of my ftp for my site and in the theme of the site with the editor...
Works for me.

Just wish this could work on html sites i have that are not php coded...
 
Looks decent. Once the suggestions Flesh has mentioned are implemented I'll drop this on a few sites to test.
 
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