What am I doing wrong?

You should also check your On Site SEO. Maybe your site/page is over optimized for your keyword.
 
What type of Links you Build? Outsourced on fiverr? as the Low Quality Fiverr type links can be the problem.
 
Did you de-index the previous site?
Or did you just pasted new info over the old info?

I deindexed it, and am now working at disavowing the spammy backlinks, while building homepage, contextual, high pr, high domain age backlinks.
 
Just so you know Angela and paul's link packets doesn't actually get you a high pr backlink. It's a PR N/A profile from a high PR site.

While Google's latest updates gives you credit for having contextual backlink from relevant content, PR still holds the major part of the pie and it works!

If you're the kind of person like infoasian who says PR is dead, I'd rather not continue discussion with you guys.

Contextual Link gets you ranked = Yes
High PR Link gets you ranked = Yes
Xrumer spam gets you ranked = Hell Yeah!


rofl. It's laughable you'd even argue that PR has anything to do with SEO now. I've not seen real SEOs talk about PR for a long time. If you knew how much of a joke you were you'd cringe.

My bet is you're making at most mid 3 figures a month with SEO.

Any half decent real SEO is making at least $10k/mo.

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/shit-list/726373-scammer-lilkid4000.html#post7482918
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...e/729902-skype-scammer-alert.html#post7534834

You do freelance design stuff for $60, yet you know SEO? That's laughable. No one who can rank sites does any $60 freelance stuff. Maybe a $20k/mo freelance SEO job for a company, but some $60 photoshop work on bhw? Not likely.

And lol @ xrumer spam. Stop reading threads from 2009 and chatting with other SEO wannabes and try learning what actually works.
 
rofl. It's laughable you'd even argue that PR has anything to do with SEO now. I've not seen real SEOs talk about PR for a long time. If you knew how much of a joke you were you'd cringe.

My bet is you're making at most mid 3 figures a month with SEO.

Any half decent real SEO is making at least $10k/mo.

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/shit-list/726373-scammer-lilkid4000.html#post7482918
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...e/729902-skype-scammer-alert.html#post7534834

You do freelance design stuff for $60, yet you know SEO? That's laughable. No one who can rank sites does any $60 freelance stuff. Maybe a $20k/mo freelance SEO job for a company, but some $60 photoshop work on bhw? Not likely.

And lol @ xrumer spam. Stop reading threads from 2009 and chatting with other SEO wannabes and try learning what actually works.

How many real SEOs do you know after all?

I don't have to explain it to a clown like you but here it goes anyway. Some stupid moron like you spammed my amazon tracking-ids on some blogs and forums so I'm forced to create another Paypal account to get my payments from alternative source. That's when Paypal put a limit on my account and I should get payments from 20 different accounts to clear that limit. I'm not a born-rich guy like your grandfather so I don't find anything wrong in doing some freelance jobs to clear that limit.

Now go and post a thread with a link to my post about ranking with xrumer spam and see how our community responds.
 
How many real SEOs do you know after all?

I don't have to explain it to a clown like you but here it goes anyway. Some stupid moron like you spammed my amazon tracking-ids on some blogs and forums so I'm forced to create another Paypal account to get my payments from alternative source. That's when Paypal put a limit on my account and I should get payments from 20 different accounts to clear that limit. I'm not a born-rich guy like your grandfather so I don't find anything wrong in doing some freelance jobs to clear that limit.

Now go and post a thread with a link to my post about ranking with xrumer spam and see how our community responds.


That's a good excuse.

"Our community" eh? You mean the community full of people selling high PR links and other junk SEO services with levels of noobery that rivals that of warrior forum? I think instead of asking them I'll just go and continue to do what brings me in cold hard cash, and that certainly isn't "high PR links" and xrumer spam.
 
That's a good excuse.

"Our community" eh? You mean the community full of people selling high PR links and other junk SEO services with levels of noobery that rivals that of warrior forum? I think instead of asking them I'll just go and continue to do what brings me in cold hard cash, and that certainly isn't "high PR links" and xrumer spam.
Uh-oh, I can see where this thread is going. I had better get out my popcorn!
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Nope, not at all. I'm done. FBGuru can lie to himself and others all he likes. If he's not interested in what really works and how to make real money then that's his issue.
 
Nope, not at all. I'm done. FBGuru can lie to himself and others all he likes. If he's not interested in what really works and how to make real money then that's his issue.
I usually don't intervene in these types of altercations, but I will say this:

  • PageRank hasn't been updated since December 6, 2013 (at least, that was the last date I've seen), so I understand what you are saying, splishsplash
  • This is a black hat SEO forum, so the ostensible "junk services" here can actually be quite useful for Internet marketers who run churn and burn projects (or other projects).
  • Many of the members here may specialise in specific areas (FBGuru may specialise in design, for example) and dabble in other areas (such as general SEO), so it's not uncommon to see photo editors discuss SEO or eCommerce here on this forum.
I'm not looking to start another argument, this is just my two cents.

Have a good day!

Zwielicht
:)
 
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That's a good excuse.

"Our community" eh? You mean the community full of people selling high PR links and other junk SEO services with levels of noobery that rivals that of warrior forum? I think instead of asking them I'll just go and continue to do what brings me in cold hard cash, and that certainly isn't "high PR links" and xrumer spam.

So you disrespect the community selling high PR links and "junk SEO services" and call them as noobs. What are you doing here then?

How about you enlighten all the members selling SEO services in BHW BST with your sheer SEO knowledge so they can do better?
 
I usually don't intervene in these types of altercations, but I will say this:

  • PageRank hasn't been updated since December 6, 2013 (at least, that was the last date I've seen), so I understand what you are saying, splishsplash
  • This is a black hat SEO forum, so the ostensible "junk services" here can actually be quite useful for Internet marketers who run churn and burn projects (or other projects).
  • Many of the members here may specialise in specific areas (FBGuru may specialise in design, for example) and dabble in other areas (such as general SEO), so it's not uncommon to see photo editors discuss SEO or eCommerce here on this forum.
I'm not looking to start another argument, this is just my two cents.

Have a good day!

Zwielicht
:)

Yeah, you're right about churn and burn. It works and it works well. But to say that high PR and xrumer spam is how you rank sites is a bit naive.

Junk services aren't the same as spam though. Junk services are just a useless mix of crap put together by noobs. There are some blackhat seo services here specifically for churn and burn and those work well, but you can't just put up a site and grab a bunch of weak services and expect to rank. I don't do churn and burn, but I do know that it's not as simple as just loading up a copy of xrumer and gsa and spamming.

When one talks about PR being a useless metric to talk about they're not saying that google has abandoned use of PR. They're saying:

1) Since it's not updated and easily faked it's not the most useful of metrics to go by.
2) It's better to think about overall "strength" rather than just PR. To determine strength you look at the big picture. mozrank, cf, tf, domain age, number of pages indexed, number backlinks, number linking domains, ratio of linking domains to backlinks and browse the site its self to get a feel for its quality. That's usually more than enough, but to take it further you'd look at the individual backlinks. Another excellent way to determine the strength of a site, and one I never see talked about, is to just fire up semrush and see what the site ranks for. Is it ranking? Yes, then google considers it a valuable site. No? Then it's not a strong site. Probably just some crappy farm site.

Now, compare talking about "gettin dem high PR backlinks" to the type of analysis I've discussed above and I think it's fairly obvious which approach is more sophisticated. Oh, and I've not even mentioned relevancy yet. Relevancy is so damn powerful. Focusing on rich content and relevancy vs backlinks is the difference between ranking for 10k keywords and 100 keywords. I'd also rather have 10k keywords ranked 3-8 for a bunch of commercially viable longtails than be number 1 for a few high volume low commercial keywords. In other words, by focusing on content more than backlinks you'll make more money, but combine content with a few relevant, high quality backlinks and you're cookin with gas.


And for the record I'm only insulting a portion of the community. The real members here will know who I'm talking about.
 
Yeah, you're right about churn and burn. It works and it works well. But to say that high PR and xrumer spam is how you rank sites is a bit naive.

Junk services aren't the same as spam though. Junk services are just a useless mix of crap put together by noobs. There are some blackhat seo services here specifically for churn and burn and those work well, but you can't just put up a site and grab a bunch of weak services and expect to rank. I don't do churn and burn, but I do know that it's not as simple as just loading up a copy of xrumer and gsa and spamming.

When one talks about PR being a useless metric to talk about they're not saying that google has abandoned use of PR. They're saying:

1) Since it's not updated and easily faked it's not the most useful of metrics to go by.
2) It's better to think about overall "strength" rather than just PR. To determine strength you look at the big picture. mozrank, cf, tf, domain age, number of pages indexed, number backlinks, number linking domains, ratio of linking domains to backlinks and browse the site its self to get a feel for its quality. That's usually more than enough, but to take it further you'd look at the individual backlinks. Another excellent way to determine the strength of a site, and one I never see talked about, is to just fire up semrush and see what the site ranks for. Is it ranking? Yes, then google considers it a valuable site. No? Then it's not a strong site. Probably just some crappy farm site.

Now, compare talking about "gettin dem high PR backlinks" to the type of analysis I've discussed above and I think it's fairly obvious which approach is more sophisticated. Oh, and I've not even mentioned relevancy yet. Relevancy is so damn powerful. Focusing on rich content and relevancy vs backlinks is the difference between ranking for 10k keywords and 100 keywords. I'd also rather have 10k keywords ranked 3-8 for a bunch of commercially viable longtails than be number 1 for a few high volume low commercial keywords. In other words, by focusing on content more than backlinks you'll make more money, but combine content with a few relevant, high quality backlinks and you're cookin with gas.


And for the record I'm only insulting a portion of the community. The real members here will know who I'm talking about.

Which portion of the community do you insult and who're the real members you're talking about?

I for one, am a real person and not a ghost haunting around this place.
 
So you disrespect the community selling high PR links and "junk SEO services" and call them as noobs. What are you doing here then?

How about you enlighten all the members selling SEO services in BHW BST with your sheer SEO knowledge so they can do better?

Sure. See my post above.

Essentially the way to make money is :-

1) Research your competitors. The goal is to find out if there's any niche-competitors. Ie, if you're going after the niche "scifi books with time travel", then find out if there's any other scifi time travel sites. Maybe there's just scifi sites with some time travel content, in which case it'll be easier for you to rank with a mini-authority site in your niche.

2) a) If there's not even any general scifi sites with pages about time travel coming up, then it's probably a low competition niche and you can get away with 10-15 articles on your site.
b) If there are some scifi time travel sites, then check to see how many pages they have indexed in google. This will give you an idea of what you want to aim for. A good number to aim for is 50 500-1000 word articles with 2000 words on your homepage.

3) Design your site architecture. Silo it and start adding content. Use good internal linking within silos with rich LSI anchor text to further help google understand what your site is about. (Internal linking is also a great way to keep bounce rates down. Give your visitors plenty of enticing options to stay on your site so they don't hit the back button.)

4) Keep adding content. No affiliate links yet. Get some natural links with a link outreach program. Create infographs and other useful content. There are so many ways to get natural links if you're creating good content. By good content I mean fucking amazing content. Content that takes you a week to research and write is how you get those killer natural links. Books like Paddy Moogan's link building book are a great start to get your imagination flowing. Some things you can do are look for broken links, use archive.org to look up what the article was then write a better version and email all site owners who link to that telling them about the broken link and that you have written a more updated and better version.

It doesn't even have to be broken links. You can just look up lists like "Top 17 Guides to Creating Amazing Infographs", then create something even better than the other 17 and ask for a link. There's literally so much you can do to get real, super-strong backlinks from actual sites that are ranking for keywords rather than shitty farm sites.

5) Create some good web 2.0 content and link to your site. Not spun crap. LSI keyword rich stuff.

6) A few ******** comments from relevant sites

7) Build a mini-blog network with 4-5 sites. Not your typical blog network. These 4-5 sites will be a fresh domain and created like real sites. No affiliate links on them. Each site will be a high quality site VERY closely related to your main money site and each site should rank for keywords. Repeat some steps above to get 1-2 high quality natural links to each of your sites + a handful of ******** comments and a couple of web 2.0's each.

8) Have at least 15-20 articles on your blog network sites. Each one should internally link, 5-10 should link off to other authority sites in your niche and 2 articles should link to your money site.

9) After you've got ranking and backlinks add in your affiliate links to your money site.

10) Keep updating with content for freshness. 2 times a month minimum based on the profitability of the money site and start split testing and landing page optimization at this point. For amazon sites you probably won't have to do much split testing. Just get people on amazon and you'll bank. Your time would be better spent starting your next amazon review site.


That blueprint above is enough to get into niches where you'll bring in mid to high 4 figures.

More competitive niches will just take A) More content. B) A bigger mini-blog-relevant blog network.(Maybe 10 sites, maybe 25, still small'ish. These sites are power-houses that rank in their own right and have natural links since they never have and never will be money sites.)
 
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Which portion of the community do you insult and who're the real members you're talking about?

I for one, am a real person and not a ghost haunting around this place.

I'm not interested in engaging with you in silly matters. You asked me to share my SEO knowledge and I'm happy to do that. However, I'm not interested in a dick slapping competition.

Feel free to share your SEO blueprint. I've shared mine. I'm not bullshitting which is why I'm happy to be transparent and actually help people start making money with SEO. Anyone can talk big about "xrumer and high PR links", but very few actually share working blueprints for open scrutiny.

Knowledge speaks volumes far greater than insults. Let's hear your SEO plan.
 
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