Insane Google ranker

[yenerich]

OK cool, you have an idea. Is it proven though? Have you seen an increase in the SERPs?

It looks to me like you wanna sell a bot which you don't even know if it works.

First of all im not trying to sell nothing yet, im developing something and want to discuss about it.
So please be carefull to point things like that.

In second place, i am absolutely sure that Google counts the clicks. Its not something i think, i show images that show this.
Im trying to find the BEST way to make that this clicks (in the way im doing) help in the ranking.
The day that i feel that i found all the answers, maybe i will try to sell it, only after being absolutely sure that my way of doing this improve the ranking.

Looks like this could be a great tool if it passes the proxies

That is already resolved in a excelent way, after a very hard work we finally maste in this.
Now we want to master in exactly the best way to do this clicks to improve the ranking.
We are doing tests and it looks very well until now, but we keep working.

You can be sure that when we feel that we have an absolutely positive code, i will let all you know about it.

As i said before, we are positive sure that the clicks in the SERPS could be one important factor to improve the ranking. Its NOT the only way, its not magic. Is just one more factor, like backlinks, G+ votes, Good content, etc.
We are trying to add an additional way to improve the rakings.

Until now our results are very promising.and the Google passed Proxy stuff are 100% resolved.

Hi, good luck with your program, you can take a look at GoogleSearch Bot, also PandaBot is similiar to what you are describing.

GSB shows up as organic searches in analytics, need HMA or similiar though.

We are not using HMA. But in the future some user can use it if they want to. But as i said before, the proxy stuff is solved.

About ohter software, i am aware of that. We are not iventing the wheel. We just are doing something similar but different, that i guess will offer better results.

 

[nambu]

There is no way that Google detects it, we dont left any footprint, im expert in proxies and i am using Google passed ones, i even check the ip using a Google query.
Also we change the case of the query from: youtube, YOUTUBE, YouTube, etc. and other factors like adding some stop words, etc. Its a very complex and complete idea to avoid any possibilitie of being detected.

Maybe you have already programmed for this, but I didn't see it mentioned in the thread, so here's a suggestion just in case:

As far as footprints go, there is more than just proxies and text case to worry about.

There is also the OS, screen size, and of course user agent. A load of searches coming from the exact same OS / screen size every time, and clicking on your site, is a footprint which I would want to have covered.

I'm sure there are more footprints I have not thought of yet, but maybe other members here can add to the list.

Will be keeping and eye on this thread, and wish you luck with it.

 

[mindmaster]

The idea is seductive.

However I haven't found any effects on using the bots already available on the market.

 

[manpreet]

As nambu mentioned earlier you need to consider the larger footprint eg screen resolution, ip geo (targetting), os, mobile os, bounce rate (can't be the same always) basically everthing you can see on google analytics you should consider either ranging (eg timings, click through pages/menu) or changing (eg ip, os). With this don't forget to get a % of same users (for new users vs returning users). Basicallyeverything has to look natural. Also, make aure you can click on other sites and bounce out perhaps straight away (decreasing theeir bounce rate increasing yours = mpre relative to the keyword searched). Maybe extra feature login to your g+ acc and then search so it looks like a real user (every 200?). Otherwise love this idea and happy to beta test

 

[jhowy73]

I would like more information

 

[yenerich]

According to what i read about ohter tools that follow similar idea, i found that that tools looks like bad coded, with a lot of problems.
I mean, the idea is good and nobody can believe that Google does not count the clicks.

But we need some well coded tool, that manages carefully the proxies and other possible footprints. Thats what we are coding.
We already have some stable software that manages well the proxies, we are testing to find how to make this works fine boosting the rank of a website.

Google counts backlinks as "votes", its pretty obvious they not ignore the clicks on the searches. The best way to know the relevance of a list of search results, is to find which of those links get clicked by the user.
Im not saying that its the #1 way to rank, im just saying that it has some weight in the ranking factor.

We are working hard to follow this idea until we can make it help in the ranks.

As nambu mentioned earlier you need to consider the larger footprint eg screen resolution, ip geo (targetting), os, mobile os, bounce rate (can't be the same always) basically everthing you can see on google analytics you should consider either ranging (eg timings, click through pages/menu) or changing (eg ip, os). With this don't forget to get a % of same users (for new users vs returning users). Basicallyeverything has to look natural. Also, make aure you can click on other sites and bounce out perhaps straight away (decreasing theeir bounce rate increasing yours = mpre relative to the keyword searched). Maybe extra feature login to your g+ acc and then search so it looks like a real user (every 200?). Otherwise love this idea and happy to beta test

Im agree. We are working on this too. We are running 24/7 the software to detect the best configuration to improve the rank of the websites.

 

[azraelito]

i want to be your beta tester

 

[waitier]

Looks like you either didn't read my post or ignored it. http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ne-google-ranker-post7403352.html#post7403352

But I'm going to say (ask) it again, how are you going to prevent google from logging?

 

[Theerthaa]

Thumps Up. I think this Ranker Tool gonna to beat the other ranker tools

 

[yenerich]

Looks like you either didn't read my post or ignored it. http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ne-google-ranker-post7403352.html#post7403352

But I'm going to say (ask) it again, how are you going to prevent google from logging?

Yes i read it and i think its answered in my explanations.
From your image its pretty obvious that they are not managin Google Passed proxies well.
Look at the ipv4.google.com urls, per example. Those are capctchas from Google because theu detect a lot of activitie from that IP. Serpify, etc. All that shows that they dont know hopw to pass Google.

We do. We know how to od it, dont worry.

Our concern at this moment is find the better way to impact on the ranking. If we fail, i will tell it here, but if we success (and everything pints in that direction) i will tell it here.

Thumps Up. I think this Ranker Tool gonna to beat the other ranker tools

We are giving our best effort.

 

[rejja]

Hy, can i get more information? Thank You

 

[DIe$el]

Seems to be an excellent idea. This really needs to be taken regarding the it should not be detected as bot. Also, you will have to take care of Google algorithm like Panda and Penguin updates which are been released at regular intervals.

 

[yenerich]

The software will logout, ofcourse, of the Google account. Otherwisewe are leaving the bigger footprint

As i explain before we are working hard to avoid any detection. About Pand and Penguin it will be save, dont worry.
There are many "internal" variables in the browser itself, that should be controledd, to avoid leaving footprints.
This is something bigger.
Thats why other attempts fails, because you cant just try to automate the searches and thats it. Its much more complex to obtain SAFETY results.

 

[bartosimpsonio]

I think Matt Cutts loved your idea and had this technique patched several days ago.

If it did work, it no longer does.

"Loose lips sink ships".

 

[yenerich]

I think Matt Cutts loved your idea and had this technique patched several days ago.

If it did work, it no longer does.

"Loose lips sink ships".

The *only* way that it does not work, is if Google detects it.

On fact is that Google counts the clicks on the serps and use that info for ranking, and they COULD NOT STOP DOING IT.
Its like backlinks, they CANT STOP count it. What they can do is try to detect if someone is creating his own backlinks.

Is the same for the clicks, they can not stop counting them. They can only try to detect if those clicks are fake or not.

At the end Google will always loose every fight because they NEED to count somethings and people are smart enought to avoid Google detection. Thats why GSA and other software still working.

 

[yenerich]

We are also using many different useragents (Mozilla, Chrome, Opera, etc), also we are browsing like different mobile phones additionally.
We have to do a lot of research to REALLY navigate as a mobile phone and mobile devices showing that we are navigating in other operating systems like android, but its working now.

 

[yenerich]

I did some tests last night, running all night the software.
First to find all possible bugs. BUT appart from finding some bugs, this morning watchimh my rankings, i found that the keywords i used last night hav a better ranking!!

This is not the first result that i found using this method, but it wa spretty fast!
I will continue testing and commenting here and taking notes on your comments that are very helpfull.

 

[bartosimpsonio]

Yes, but once you've revealed what you're doing, they'll zoom in on this practice.

 

[cityboy]

Seems nice!
I'd like to take a look

 

[azraelito]

i send you a pm and email!
please verify, thanks!!