Screw College

[Trepanated]

It's impossible to drop out of college and become a billionaire if you don't get to college in the first place.

 

[testyy]

Which part of "doing the job for a day or two and proving you have what their looking for." Did you not understand?
If you can't do the job during the few days they give to you to prove you can do it, then obviously they won't be calling you back.

So why are all the successful businesses hiring people with degrees? There must be a reason for it? Well the reason is it's because they are the only ones who can do the job. IM is a different ball game, but in reality everyone who is good at let's say accountancy actually goes and does accountancy at uni to prove it. My view on the topic is that all of the people who can't get a higher education have these dropouts as an example when in reality they haven't got a clue about how the world works.

 

[testyy]

OP you should also add to the picture 99.99% of people who get F also end up working for those Scientists for a minimum wage.

 

[Zwielicht]

But if you can't be arsed to learn where is proof that you will be arsed to do your job?

College doesn't have a monopoly on education. Grades can also be easily influenced by social factors (how much your teacher likes you, how much your teacher can relate to you, etcetera).

So why are all the successful businesses hiring people with degrees? There must be a reason for it? Well the reason is it's because they are the only ones who can do the job. IM is a different ball game, but in reality everyone who is good at let's say accountancy actually goes and does accountancy at uni to prove it. My view on the topic is that all of the people who can't get a higher education have these dropouts as an example when in reality they haven't got a clue about how the world works.

Because they are not allowed to use aptitude testing after Griggs v. Duke Power Co.

 

[JohnnyBoy81]

I agree education is key, but it seems these days so many people have a four year degree that it doesn't seem to get you as far as it used to.

 

[Zwielicht]

I agree education is key, but it seems these days so many people have a four year degree that it doesn't seem to get you as far as it used to.

You mean accreditation. It's because too many people are pushed to go to college without a purpose (or the purpose is just to "make more money"). At one point in time, college degrees were meant to create well-rounded citizens (their original purpose) and help people get into careers which did require a college degree (jobs like psychology and teaching positions). Over time, once employers started using college degrees after Griggs v Duke Power, colleges essentially became trade schools with the promise of "Getting educated and making more money". This was also thanks to the marketing efforts, something we should all be familiar with here, put forth by the colleges to attract more students. This worked out fantastically during a time when employers needed a new way of testing their job applicants, so job applicants began pushing people toward college so that they could have a way to determine their skill level.

During the Great Recession (2007-2009), colleges began marketing themselves more aggressively by falsely promising a ticket to the good life. Because the general public was so desperate, this caused college enrolment to spike more than it ever had in previous recessions. Think of college like Hitler and the general public as Germany, except Hitler managed to get Germany out of the recession by launching a vast program of the construction of highways (right before he started his concentration camps, although this is beside the point), whereas colleges just managed to increase debt to previously unfathomable levels. Either way, both of them used the public's desperation to gain power.


There's a lot more to the history of how the obsession with college began and it's all quite interesting, so I always encourage people to look into it more. Also, before someone turns this into a a "Hitler killed millions of people" topic:

 

[archon10]

Which part of "doing the job for a day or two and proving you have what their looking for." Did you not understand?
If you can't do the job during the few days they give to you to prove you can do it, then obviously they won't be calling you back.

lol where do you work? McDonalds? Any job worth a shit takes months to train someone.

 

[Zwielicht]

lol where do you work? McDonalds? Any job worth a shit takes months to train someone.

I actually think Cazual is referring to jobs like programming where your employer will give you an assignment where you are required to create a specific type of program to see if you can actually do it. In this case, you will either have learnt it from the Internet, books, college, previous jobs, or any other resources you may have used.

 

[yensidtlaw]

Was in a rush, got shit to do.
You understood what I was saying

Sorry man. They are definitely charging me with Internet crimes when the SS falls.

 

[yensidtlaw]

I agree education is key, but it seems these days so many people have a four year degree that it doesn't seem to get you as far as it used to.

That is because they are getting degrees in things that have a poor salary. Like Art History, Fine Arts and Hospitality. It took me a long time to get to college, mostly because of bad grades at High School level and mainly because I couldn't decide what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. But you better believe I researched salaries before I decided on my Major. Another great thing about being a mature student is that I care about my education more than the average college student. Which I'm so excited about because for the first time in my life I'm a straight A student (VERY surprising).

 

[archon10]

I actually think Cazual is referring to jobs like programming where your employer will give you an assignment where you are required to create a specific type of program to see if you can actually do it. In this case, you will either have learnt it from the Internet, books, college, previous jobs, or any other resources you may have used.

oh so he's one of those low rent WP programmers. Wouldn't know. I work in the enterprise where we do real coding for multibillion dollar companies. Real coders don't really associate with those types.

Anyhow, carry on.

 

[ciganluk]

I got my business degree in marketing........completely pointless...i learned NOTHING...while I learned so much from Google and this here website........................

For example in my internet marketing class the professor was 60+ yrs old who had trouble locating a file located on desktop from the file browser.......he taught us about google analytics... that's cool

I was making good money months before I got my degree...simply due to the fear of having to get a 9-5 job..i started working like hell at my school from 9 pm to 9am EVERY day for a month...and i went from making 40-100 a month to 2800 the next month..and 4k+ the following month.

So college is always good for a plan b if all else fails but it's def not a requirement for those who have drive

 

[Zwielicht]

For example in my internet marketing class the professor was 60+ yrs old who had trouble locating a file located on desktop from the file browser.......he taught us about google analytics... that's cool

That reminds me of a computer class I took where the teacher was 72 years old and had us store all of our data on floppy disks. Floppy disks! USB drives had been around for at least 8 years at the time. As you can imagine, the actual assignments were completed on Windows 98 with appropriate programs.

 

[ciganluk]

That reminds me of a computer class I took where the teacher was 72 years old and had us store all of our data on floppy disks. Floppy disks! USB drives had been around for at least 8 years at the time. As you can imagine, the actual assignment were completed on Windows 98 with appropriate programs.

lmaoo oh yeah this was 2 years ago....we still had to "learn" about floppy disks for our exams

 

[Zwielicht]

lmaoo oh yeah this was 2 years ago....we still had to "learn" about floppy disks for our exams

Were the bonus questions about IBM punched cards?
:joke:

 

[LostConnection]

oh so he's one of those low rent WP programmers. Wouldn't know. I work in the enterprise where we do real coding for multibillion dollar companies. Real coders don't really associate with those types.

Anyhow, carry on.

Well ain't you a sweetheart, just keep posting duchier and duchier posts. Why do you have to try and boast with your job? The real money makers are those who turn your code into actual money, not the grunts (you if you didn't get it) who code it for them.

Now I agree, education is important. But rather than having a programmer with an art history degree, would you not have one who can actually program?

 

[MyPasswordIs1234]

Zuckerberg dropped out of Harvard, not the University of Phoenix.

 

[reoman]

Whats the ratio of billionaire drop outs, to burger flipping drop outs?

 

[serpmover2014]

You made a big move op. Now you must deal with the good times that come as a result of this move And bad times. You made a big move. Whether it turns out to be good or bad in your life depends on you and your work ethic

 

[serpmover2014]

Good luck tho. You can still win big if you play your cards right