Some New Update for PBN?

[Avid Learner]

If you take some low density search terms and look at the results, especially if you have a page targeted at that keyword, you will see pages jumping in and out of the index. if you check info:site.tld, you will see that the site is indexed. What it appears is happening is that G is temporarily removing sites from the serp and checking link velocity to that site. Google has been doing this for quite some time and it is nothing new. However, by building links to the sites when G has removed them from the serp you are revealing your network.

Fair enough...just read into your post (with its discussion of psychology, criminal profiling, depression, habits, behavior) much more than something that can practically be done algorithmically (from an ROI perspective). However, what you say here is very specific to measurements that Google could make a reasonable guess at for how BH works (especially if they are reading the threads here and from several other blogs). If that is what you were really talking about, then I guess we are on the same page. Cheers, mate.

 

[Avid Learner]

When it comes to content google will treat the following pretty much the same (for 'digital camera' kw):

A decent digital camera might set you back financially a bit, but depending on what you do is worth it.
Smelling the digital camera will produce a new era that begins to develop abruptly because of the sunshine.

This was the point of view I was coming from, re: Google's abilities to detect things algorithmically.

 

[sotto123]

The thing is that most people build their PBN's in a way that it is only a matter of time before they get taken down. I read something earlier on BHW about someone saying that a PBN is a churn and burn method, albeit one with less risk. Are you serious?

Build your sites in a way that you know 100% will pass a manual review. This includes the biggies like no massive footprints, but also the little things like adding a Twitter and Facebook page, a custom header, contact and privacy policy pages etc., don't have all your links going to your money site on your homepage either.

If if a competitor tries to get your network taken down, he won't be able to (and probably won't even realise it's a network site anyway). He's trying to take down a real looking site that doesn't have bullshit content like "Top 5 Juicer Reviews" on its homepage that only links out to your 5 bullshit juicer reviews. How many big websites do you know that even link out on their homepage? Inner page linking is underrated.

A site used in a PBN should be indistinguishable from any other real site on the net. If you're spending both time and money in creating a PBN you may as well do it right.

 

[InsanelySane]

The thing is that most people build their PBN's in a way that it is only a matter of time before they get taken down. I read something earlier on BHW about someone saying that a PBN is a churn and burn method, albeit one with less risk. Are you serious?

Build your sites in a way that you know 100% will pass a manual review. This includes the biggies like no massive footprints, but also the little things like adding a Twitter and Facebook page, a custom header, contact and privacy policy pages etc., don't have all your links going to your money site on your homepage either.

If if a competitor tries to get your network taken down, he won't be able to (and probably won't even realise it's a network site anyway). He's trying to take down a real looking site that doesn't have bullshit content like "Top 5 Juicer Reviews" on its homepage that only links out to your 5 bullshit juicer reviews. How many big websites do you know that even link out on their homepage? Inner page linking is underrated.

A site used in a PBN should be indistinguishable from any other real site on the net. If you're spending both time and money in creating a PBN you may as well do it right.

The problem with all of this is; eventually or rather if they feel they want to --

All they would have to do is evaluate OBL patterns site wide to determine a PBN.

When you have a ratio of 50% total links to various good (auth sites) and 50% total links to either new or same server money sites; it becomes obvious.

I think true futureproof PBNs will become very tedious and time consuming. You will have to elimate footprints everywhere. IP's, Registrars, Hosts, Sitewide across both network and money sites.