Charles Floate charged with hacking and possession of child sex images

[EuforijaKg]

OMG, 260+ posts about Charles Floate. Who gives a shit about him?

Is BHW getting flooded by noobs and kids or what's going on?

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

I will have to disagree. It takes some technical knowledge that Wireshark is a legitimate network tool that can be used for hacking purposes. It takes a little technical knowledge to understand that LOIC (most likely the tool that Floats would have used if he did participate in an anonymous attack) is a legitimate network tool used to test security and firewalls. It takes a little technical knowledge to understand that Reaver is a legitimate network too used to test WPS security and to test if WPS has really been disabled. Telnet is likewise a legitimate network tool. I can pretty much walk through every tool in BackTrack or Kali (Linux penetration and testing OS) and show a legitimate network use of the tool.

Instead of outlawing the use of the tools for hacking purposes, these ill thought out knee jerk bills attempt to outlaw legitimate tools. Any person that has any network or penetration testing experience can tell you that each tool some foolish bureaucrat calls a hacking tool is a legitimate network tool. The bureaucrat with little to no technical knowledge is unable to distinguish the difference in the use of the tool; I have even read reports where these bureaucrats have called Linux a hacking tool.

Next we move on to the rash of penetrations of systems in the US. Most of those successful attacks were accomplished with zero day attacks that required considerable technical knowledge and for which there was no tool, excepting perhaps a custom scripting tool for Metasploit (that the attacker would have had to have written him/herself). The tools had to be custom written.

Those bills do nothing to strengthen existing laws or slow actual hacking, but they do a tremendous amount in preventing actual network security.

Where in the bill is there a ban on such tools? The bill is about extending the maximum time under the Computer misuse act from 5 years to up to life in prison. If one is paid to test the security of a network or a website they will not face any criminal charges. It doesn't take much knowledge to know that if someone is attacking or hacking a website they don't have permission to they are violating the law.

 

[mickyfu]

If they let Charlie boy out on day release, he might speak at the next UnGagged lol

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/ungagged-2014/654875-speaker-what-would-you-like-learn.html#post7333960

I actually cannot believe what I have just read, I am shocked. How is this gormless little moron fooling so many people. He is a grade A clown and nothing more.

 

[JustUs]

Where in the bill is there a ban on such tools? The bill is about extending the maximum time under the Computer misuse act from 5 years to up to life in prison. If one is paid to test the security of a network or a website they will not face any criminal charges. It doesn't take much knowledge to know that if someone is attacking or hacking a website they don't have permission to they are violating the law.

Paragraph 23 [in part]:
"It said at the time that the current law fails to "prevent individuals from obtaining tools such as malware with the intention to personally commit a cyber crime."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/1...uter_misuse_national_security_life_in_prison/

This is the link you referenced, BTW.

Malware is a rather indefinite term. However, preventing of the obtaining of hacking tools is a little more definite, and that is what I addressed. Silly flipping bureaucrats are incapable of distinguishing between the use of legitimate network tools.

 

[mickyfu]

Please everyone, stick to the subject of Charles being a nonce.

 

[JustUs]

Thank you for teaching me a new English/British Word "gormless."

 

[thisismymp3]

where is martin grunin when you need him. Whatever happened with him?

 

[Wilson Grant Fisk]

I actually cannot believe what I have just read, I am shocked. How is this gormless little moron fooling so many people. He is a grade A clown and nothing more.

I thought it might be a joke but looks like the guy is serious.

 

[wizdorf]

Was Charley discrediting Pat Flynn or your buddy? Why in the hell would someone ever discredit Pat Flynn. He's a genuine guy. I don't see how you could ever dislike him.

Not to derail this thread, but what has Pat Flynn done besides making money by teaching others how to make money?

A good majority of his income is derived in one way or another via his podcast, blog, or courses.

John lee dumas on the other hand, there's a guy that gets my respect even if I'm not a fan of his podcast.

 

[Vic Sage]

https://twitter.com/GodOfSEO

Gotta admit...this guy has toooooooo much free time in his hand.

 

[mqsss]

Not to derail this thread, but what has Pat Flynn done besides making money by teaching others how to make money?

A good majority of his income is derived in one way or another via his podcast, blog, or courses.

John lee dumas on the other hand, there's a guy that gets my respect even if I'm not a fan of his podcast.

I don't read anything that John Chow or Pat Flynn write in their blogs, but I got a respect for them because they had a long and tough way to get to the point they are today.

I don't have respect for people that have to discredit someone else to get a piece of attention. I also don't respect people in IM industry that built their empires based on lies and cheats and Charles is definitely one of them.

All you have to do today is to lie about working for successful companies that don't even know your name, lie about your income, lie about your success and write posts about theories copied from other people's blogs. You can include screenshots of other people's work and take a picture of yourself with a random supercar parked in your street. Even if 90% of people know you are bullshitting, you will still get some % of blind noobs who will pay you money for nothing.

CEOsam also fits in this category.

 

[dymockpoet]

So his application for bail hearing finished just over an hour ago. Can't tell from the Birmingham Crown Court website whether he was granted it or not though.

 

[mickyfu]

So his application for bail hearing finished just over an hour ago. Can't tell from the Birmingham Crown Court website whether he was granted it or not though.

Where are you getting this from? He is remanded till 5th of November.

 

[dymockpoet]

Where are you getting this from? He is remanded till 5th of November.

These tweets:

Turns out I'm not allowed to post links. Search Twitter for 'Charlton Floate' and you'll find them. They are from a Twitter account that automatically posts updates on Crown Court events.

And the Birmingham Crown Court listings page:

Oh wait, I can't link to that either. Google it.

You can see that his bail hearing started at 10.02 and finished at 10.27 this morning in court 17.

 

[mickyfu]

These tweets:

Turns out I'm not allowed to post links. Search Twitter for 'Charlton Floate' and you'll find them. They are from a Twitter account that automatically posts updates on Crown Court events.

And the Birmingham Crown Court listings page:

Oh wait, I can't link to that either. Google it.

You can see that his bail hearing started at 10.02 and finished at 10.27 this morning in court 17.

I just searched Birmingham crown court after I posted, his case lasted a few minutes, but it says nothing.

 

[umerjutt00]

Birmingham 28-10-2014 Court 17 T20148387 CHARLTON GEORGE RIPLEY FLOATE For Application for Bail - Case Started - 10:02

https://twitter.com/K998765/status/527041449771433984

 

[LostConnection]

http://www.thelawpages.com/court-hearings-lists/Birmingham-Crown-Court.php


Nothing as of yet regarding the result of the bail hearing.

I wouldn't let him out though.

 

[redrubies]

The kid a liar, a thief, he would shit on anyone for a few extra subscribers.

That should have been evident to people when he posted here before he got banned. It boggles my mind how some people post on a black hat forum yet are so naive.

 

[mickyfu]

That should have been evident to people when he posted here before he got banned. It boggles my mind how some people post on a black hat forum yet are so naive.

If you want your mind boggling, read this thread

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/ungagged-2014/654875-speaker-what-would-you-like-learn.html#post7334212

 

[redrubies]

If you want your mind boggling, read this thread

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...er-what-would-you-like-learn.html#post7334212

Honestly, I wish people would stop listening to self proclaimed gods in their field. They are good at marketing themselves. It's no different from work at home scams that people fall for. The only ones who get rich are the ones selling the info. If anyone wants to hire a real "SEO expert" then do what people do in retail. Search for the word "engagement ring" or another near impossible word to rank, and call the sites that are in the top 20 results. Ask who does their SEO and hire them. And always remember two things:
1. Those who brag are not that good at what they do. If they were, they wouldn't need to call themselves a god.
2. Anyone can be successful if they have the money to buy a successful business from someone else. Search out people who built their business from scratch.