blackcoffee7
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Maybe it is all only a big PR campaign......on the other hand, he almost got backlink from bbc.com
Charles Floate charged with hacking and possession of child sex images
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thejake
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I was going to check my spam folder to figure out what forum you're talking about but then I remembered what you're talking about never happened according to the folks who run BHU and BHU's management just wants to make sure I'm aware of all these nice young women who'd like to send me photos and talk more.
Again, I cannot speak to the UK excepting that the country is often a proxy for US, so I will look at this from a US criminal justice perspective.
Often when a person is arrested their electronic equipment is seized and forensically examined. If anything, no matter how minor, is found. then new criminal charges are filed (stacked). This is based on the theory that the more criminal charges there are, the more likely there will be a conviction on one of them. I am aware that one of the differences in criminal justice is that on paper (reality is different) in the US a person is innocent until proven guilt, while in the UK a person is guilty unless proven innocent. The other major difference that I am aware of is that in the US a person has the right to silence, while in the UK a person does not.
Going to the hacking/ddos charges, we have to look at what they may have really been. As an example, a basic attempt at ddosing is a ping attack While ineffective for a single computer, ping -t some IP or website, will launcha continual pinging in Windows. There is a legitimate need for a continual ping in some instances. Unless you have a very large number of computers or a large botnet pinging I would not call it a ddos attack. Again as an example, I have been using a continual ping to attempt to load a new OS/firmware into a bricked router via tftp. Then again, anyone can boot Loric. Launching Loric against a government site would not be wise, but people do it just to learn how the program works. Is this hacking or exploration. Often people engage in port scanning. There are legitimate reasons to scan ports, but executed improperly it will look like a ddos. Perhaps the guy fired up Acunitex. Acunitex is a vulnerability scanner that does have the ability to launch a ddos, but its use is often innocent. These are the things that are missing from the information set that we have - what was done and how.
Governments around the world are skitzy about perceived computer attacks. partially this stems from the NSA invading computers of other government agencies and partially this comes from legitimate attacks from China, Russian, Ukraine, and some of the Mid-East countries. The problem is that very few of those agencies would recognize an attack, so they jump on anything. For this reason alone, I am sceptical of any claim of hacking.
I know 13 y/o's that look 19, and 19 y/o's that look 13. Calling an age on appearance is flake at best. Appearence is all you have on a computer unless you fill in details. However, in the UK you would have to explain the appearance. In the US it is even worse because people have been convicted of child porn for cartoons.
The only thing that I am going to is that we, as outsiders, really have no information that the government has not shared with us. I have little trust in government.
BHU? Butt hurt University?
Capo Dei Capi
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He was never charged with hacking, but with computer misuse, Its news agencies that are using the term hacking because its a better headline.
BreaknBrix
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Was this photoshopped or was he really dumb enough to write this shit on FB?
edit: If this is real, he posted that shit >>>3 years ago. It really makes you wonder if pedophilia is a developmental disorder. Like one day you're 12 years old, get a boner, then start looking for pictures of girls your age. But then your grow physically, but your mind gets stuck at a certain point.
I don't know. But I remember watching a documentary once where they put censors on a bunch of mens penises. Then what they did was show them provocative, fake photos of very young pretty girls (they were all older girls who were made up and photoshopped to look 12-16) and something like 98% of the men showed increased blood flow to the penis.
It really makes you wonder whether pedophilia is a disease or reproductive tool that men developed thousands of years ago for survival and reproduction.
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David4Writing
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Yeah, They've found him guilty of committing these crimes. no one can judge people really.
Zwielicht
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Except the magistrate he will be ordered to appear before.
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Incorrect. Here in the UK we are innocent until proven guilty and we do have the right to silence, this is stated to a person when they are arrested. This does not usually help a persons case though.
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thejake
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No idea, just trying to catch up with the ongoing drama the blackhat seo's occupy themselves with while waiting for googlebot to notice their comment spam.
Wilson Grant Fisk
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These are good for a laugh:
http://charlesfloate.co.uk/complete-journey/
http://charlesfloate.co.uk/even/
Then do a search for his Hacking aliases.
http://charlesfloate.co.uk/complete-journey/
http://charlesfloate.co.uk/even/
Then do a search for his Hacking aliases.
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I don't know about the innocence or guilt of this kid, but this is incorrect. You cannot be remanded in the UK until you have been charged with a crime, when he was initially arrested he was released on bail pending the outcome of the investigation - he wasn't charged so couldn't be remanded at that point. He has now been charged with both the DDOS and the kid porn at the same time, and has been remanded for both.
The DDOS attack was an anon op against the home office as a protest over the proposed extradition of Gary McKinnon. With the politicised nature of the offence it is highly likely he would have ended up on remand regardless of any other charges, the UK are coming down hard on anything to do with political activism.
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I actually wonder how many people would be arrested for possessing child pornography if every computer were searched. Can you imagine how many casual porn users unknowingly have thumbnail cache of child porn on their computers from just browsing regular porn websites?
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Porn doesn't really work like that, if someone has child porn on their computers 99/100 times they were actually looking for it.
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They aren't really cracking down on activism, its just that too many immature young adults are doing illegal methods. Massive groups like Anonymous could have lobbied and won privacy protection laws and laws to protect free speech on the internet in many countries in Europe and in America, but since "The Man" does lobbying its immoral to them so they hack and attack.
tranza
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Even spamming GSA SER from your own computer can be seen as hacking attend, the thing why the cops went after him, if there are million of people that search for porn child etc everyday. Why the news was published on the BBC?. is this guys kind of famous on UK or what?
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He was arrested for "Hacking" and child porn, its going to make the news in any country.
I think we are running into language difficulties, or a miscommunication. Allow me to rephrase.
In the US you have the right to silence. If you elect to exercise your right to silence (highly recommended) it is not a bar to using things you kept silent about for your defense. As I understand the UK system, while you do not have to speak, the failure to speak when questioned by the *authorities* is a bar against later using the things you remained silent about for your defense. Hence, my assertion that you do not have a right to remain silent.
It is also my understanding that the trial phase is different in that in the UK you have to prove yourself innocent whereas in the US the prosecutor must prove you guilty. There is a difference. However, as practiced in the US, because of the attitude of the court personnel, the police, and the propensity of the jurors to believe the police, you actually have to prove yourself innocent.
Here in the US there have been prosecutions and convictions for thumbnail porn.
Zwielicht
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Au contraire, there have been cases of child porn being on popular porn websites, it's just not always conspicuous when it does happen. This is the reason why many of those website, like most other websites that allow users to share content, have a report button. There was also a case where a man was arrested after his boss discovered child porn in a folder that stored images that he had been viewing online (the same story is also referenced here). Porn "doesn't work like that", but malware and image caching do.
Thanks for mentioning this, JustUs.
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