Charles Floate charged with hacking and possession of child sex images

[Zwielicht]

Damn, England's got some f#cked up laws. I had to find the legal definition "extreme pornography" as I'm pretty sure I break this law every day.

This is the definition I found:

realistic - LOL! What on Earth does this even mean? That you can only watch "fake" porn? Do you guys seriously have to watch porn where people just pretend to have sex? Cause I'm pretty sure that's not even "porn" in which case you wouldn't even need porn laws in the first place.

is produced solely or principally for the purpose of sexual arousal - HAHAHAHAHA. England, I know the US has got some stupid ass laws but this one really takes the cake. The ENTIRE POINT OF PORN is to be SEXUALLY AROUSED. FFS that's why it's called "porn". Having a law like this is like putting a donut in front of someone then arresting them for getting hungry.

includes necrophilia, bestiality, or depicts life threatening acts, or serious harm to the breast, anus or genitals - What a horse and a woman and a dead corpse does is their business. God am I proud to be an American.

is deemed by a jury or magistrate to be "grossly offensive" - If this includes fat women then I take back the proud American comment.


-BB

I think you have misconstrued what is meant by "extreme pornography". The other sections that mention that the image "is produced solely or principally for the purpose of sexual arousal" or has to be realistic is in relation to the "extreme pornographic" section.

What is meant by an extreme image?

For an image to be viewed as extreme for the purposes of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act if it is grossly offensive, disgusting or otherwise of obscene character. Specifically an image will be seen to be extreme if it falls within the categories specified by subsection 7 of the Section 63 of the Act.


Subsection 7 specifies that an image will be extreme if it relates to any of the following:

• An act which threatens a persons' life - this could include depictions of hanging, suffocation or sexual assault involving a threat with a weapon
• An act which results, or is likely to result, in serious injury to a persons' anus, breasts or genitals - this could include the insertion of sharp objects or the mutilation of breasts or genitals
• An act which involves sexual interference with a human corpse
• A person performing an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive) and a reasonable person looking at the image would believe that any such person or animal was real

The Act is designed to capture realistic portrayals of acts the publication of which is likely to be unlawful under the Obscene Publications Act 1959.

Click here for the source if you want to read more.

Think of it like the difference between a sport and an extreme sport. If extreme sports were banned, that wouldn't mean that regular sports were banned, too.

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

At least 1 state(Utah) in America all porn is actually banned, while others have an obscenities law. But I think the obscenities laws usually just punish the production and distrobution but not possession.

 

[Zwielicht]

At least 1 state(Utah) in America all porn is actually banned, while others have an obscenities law. But I think the obscenities laws usually just punish the production and distrobution but not possession.

I thought those obscenity laws only covered viewing, distributing, and producing porn in a public setting only?

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

I thought those obscenity laws only covered viewing, distributing, and producing porn in a public setting only?

It covers the internet as well, a few years ago Danilo Croce was charged over the 2 girls 1 cup video, since he was an agent of the company that produced it and was living in Florida.

 

[BreaknBrix]

I think you have misconstrued what is meant by "extreme pornography". The other sections that mention that the image "is produced solely or principally for the purpose of sexual arousal" or has to be realistic is in relation to the "extreme pornographic" section.


Click here for the source if you want to read more.

Think of it like the difference between a sport and an extreme sport. If extreme sports were banned, that wouldn't mean that regular sports were banned, too.

OOOOK, makes perfect sense now! My source was shit so I wound up reading it completely out of context. TY.

At least 1 state(Utah) in America all porn is actually banned, while others have an obscenities law. But I think the obscenities laws usually just punish the production and distrobution but not possession.

That's crazy. I remember reading about a guy who got 60 years, first time offense for possession of a JOINT in Salt Lake City, Utah. That's almost as bad as the countries that give you the death penalty for possession of ethnobotanicals. Like kratom tea. Perfectly legal in the US but if you sell it in Thailand you can be given the death penalty.

All countries have their share of messed up laws. But killing someone for drinking a tea thats as addictive as codiene, and actually helps people work and be more productive... it's just crazy.

I can go on all day about the hypocrisy of drug laws. 6 years ago when I was still in college, we were forced to watch a 90 minute anti-drug movie in an auditorium full of 300+ people. And the movie didn't mention a word about opium. So afterwards a cop asked, "does anyone have any questions"? I quickly raised my hand and asked, "why is it illegal to grow marijuana in the US, but you can legally buy afghan opium poppies, or the seeds, and grow these flowers right in your front yard.... meanwhile the pods are packed with morphine, codiene & thebaine which are 1000xs more addictive than weed"?

He just paused for 5 seconds and said "I'll have to look that one up and get back to you". Then I explained the poppy control act of 1942 (which made them illegal), how it was repealed in 1970 which basically opened the gates for anyone to grow them. And since then no more laws have been made. So while police are busy locking up heroin users in the US, any random citizen can grow opium right in their front yard. The DEA HAS been trying to crack down on large scale farmers but 99% of these farmers never get charged with anything.

Did not mean to hijack this thread but I can't think of many "laws" crazier than the US poppy repeal. It's like saying, "yes this plant contains drugs just as strong as heroin, but since the flowers are so pretty and the seeds nom nom good... lets just keep them legal".

/end rant

 

[c0bbz]

oooh I love a bit of SEO drama every now and then, it'll be interesting to see whether he actually gets any jail time.

 

[t0mmy]

that was the problem with ste hughes...he had comedy value but little else. he was a good troll though!

Ah man I'd take his comedy value in a heart beat over a lot of the fake ass clowns we have running round here at the moment...

 

[gorang]

After conversations dating back a YEAR with Charles in Skype, he never once mentioned that Todd Foster owns blackhat.community. Charles is the owner of Blackhat.community as far as Charles was concerned.

Also, if Todd Foster by some slim chance does own blackhat.community then he has been marketing his forum using stolen email lists and is not to be trusted.

 

[Kikerinka]

Don't judge the others, you don't know their path. Deep in his soul he's a good man, like everyone else. Just many things that happened to him in life took its toll...

I hate when someone watches/distributes child pornography, yet I wish the time in jail makes him a better person (seen that few times).

 

[archon10]

It covers the internet as well, a few years ago Danilo Croce was charged over the 2 girls 1 cup video, since he was an agent of the company that produced it and was living in Florida.

ha! I hadn't heard of that but god dammit my friend got me with that video in pure cliche style "Hey, watch this video." And then the look of "What are they doing? OMG OMG OMG." LOL

 

[Reops]

He dun' fucked up.

 

[mickyfu]

Don't judge the others, you don't know their path. Deep in his soul he's a good man,

No he isn't, he is a paedo.

 

[graham25s]

Damn and he has admitted in on facebook going by the images lol (although tongue in cheek) it won't help his case mutch lol

 

[JustUs]

At least 1 state(Utah) in America all porn is actually banned, while others have an obscenities law. But I think the obscenities laws usually just punish the production and distrobution but not possession.

You would be mistaken in your conclusion that porn is banned in Utah. There are sex shops in Utah. You can buy all the porn you want. What is banned by law is the public display of porn magazines, movies, etc. For those items you have to step into a back room that is open only to those that are over 18. Triple X movies are banned though. For those you go to Wyoming or order from the internet.

 

[JustUs]

I had never heard of Charles Floate. I looked him up on Google and I am not impressed by what I read. He may know a thing or two, but my reading is that he wishes to impress with notoriety rather than ability.

 

[mickyfu]

I had never heard of Charles Floate. I looked him up on Google and I am not impressed by what I read. He may know a thing or two, but my reading is that he wishes to impress with notoriety rather than ability.

No he certainly does not know a thing or two, he is quite simply just a shit driveller. His content to is site is just scraped from round the net and passed off as his own.

 

[Wilson Grant Fisk]

Don't judge the others, you don't know their path. Deep in his soul he's a good man, like everyone else. Just many things that happened to him in life took its toll...

I hate when someone watches/distributes child pornography, yet I wish the time in jail makes him a better person (seen that few times).

Pedos don't change in Jail. They can not help themselves. There is no cure.

 

[JustUs]

No he certainly does not know a thing or two, he is quite simply just a shit driveller. His content to is site is just scraped from round the net and passed off as his own.

I was trying to be polite. The description you give, however, fits many posting here.

 

[JustUs]

Pedos don't change in Jail. They can not help themselves. There is no cure.

I do not know if that is the case. There is a branch of psychology called "Cognitive restructuring" that attempts to address the thought patterns of people. Looking at convicted pedophiles from a criminal perspective, they have the second lowest rate of recidivism of any convicted criminal. The lowest rate belongs to murderers.

Looking at the entire matter from the perspective of Floate's age of 18 or 19, it is entirely conceivable and reasonable that when allowing for a five year age difference, he could have images of fourteen of fifteen year olds without fitting anything but the legal definition of a pedophile. If the images are of children under 12 or thirteen, then I would call him a pedophile. The problem is that the information of the actual crime is lacking and people are getting their exercise jumping to conclusions. Before you throw flames my way, I would like you to consider that many of the states in the US have laws allowing for an age difference of five years younger for people under 21. I am unable to speak to the laws of the UK.

 

[mickyfu]

Looking at the entire matter from the perspective of Floate's age of 18 or 19, it is entirely conceivable and reasonable that when allowing for a five year age difference, he could have images of fourteen of fifteen year olds without fitting anything but the legal definition of a pedophile. If the images are of children under 12 or thirteen, then I would call him a pedophile.

As I have stated before, he would not have been remanded if it was not serious. He obviously was not remanded to do with cyber crimes, as he had already been arrested at an earlier date, when they took his computers at that earlier date, they have found his stash of kiddie porn and rearrested and remanded him.