[Method] Sudo's Churn & Burn For Lead Generation

[MaxReformation]

Very in depth tutorial. Thanks

 

[Seljo]

Just some clarification you suggest to have all domains on different hosting ?

 

[sudorank]

Just some clarification you suggest to have all domains on different hosting ?

You don't have to have them in different accounts, for me it helps with the organisation! (My weed addled brain needs the help)

 

[Seljo]

Great, you just saved me some money

 

[Paulie W]

 

[IMCapitalist]

Very interesting.Gonna test it soon.

 

[sudorank]

 

[partnersedge]

"Filtering" the links- 2 301s, aged domain, not indexed, etc. I think I can figure out all the variables and test them a few ways using this method. Thanks, sudorank

 

[sudorank]

"Filtering" the links- 2 301s, aged domain, not indexed, etc. I think I can figure out all the variables and test them a few ways using this method. Thanks, sudorank

Please let me know how you get on

 

[ZennoBlaster]

Hi. I'm not sure if you answered this, but is the aged domain related to the niche?

 

[domainmadness]

Hi. I'm not sure if you answered this, but is the aged domain related to the niche?

That doesn't really matter.

 

[ZennoBlaster]

That doesn't really matter.

Don't mean to be funny, but the question was aimed at the op.

 

[InsanelySane]

Will probably never do this but:

Does the aged domain have to be clean?

 

[Tilko]

wait, isn't the whole point of 301 to get spam links on old domain and then 301 it to $ site?
Why is filtering necessary ?
What if i put robots.txt on an old domain and disallow everything to get domain de-indexed.. afterwards I would start spamming it..
after a week or so I would 301 it to the money site.. wouldn't that work better?

 

[IamNRE]

STEP 1:

The first thing is the prep our old PR 3 domain. The one thing we don't want is Google indexing this domain at all.




Put this domain within it's own hosting account.
Add a robots.txt file.
Disallow everything.
Wait till the domain is completely deranked on Google.




Let's call this Domain B.


STEP 2:


The next step is to purchase a brand new domain, or use an old one you have lying about.




Put this domain within it's own hosting account too.
Add a .htaccess file.
301 Redirect to domain B




Let's call this Domain C.




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The one major piece of information to realise when using this method is this:


"Google cannot ban a domain if it's not indexed. If it's not indexed it's essentially invisible to Google"


It's this that makes my method work so well. As long as you keep your Domain B & C tucked away from the Google Bots

Do we disallow everything on BOTH B & C or just B? Whats the .htaccess for? (do both domains have to be de-indexed in google).

Also, mathew's blog talks about tiered link building.... so is that what we do ? build tiered links to C... not just straight hard core 1 tier spam with GSA?

 

[sudorank]

Do we disallow everything on BOTH B & C or just B? Whats the .htaccess for? (do both domains have to be de-indexed in google).

Also, mathew's blog talks about tiered link building.... so is that what we do ? build tiered links to C... not just straight hard core 1 tier spam with GSA?

You disallow on both B+C

Nope, this is churn and burn so you have to hit Domain C with spam, no tiers.

wait, isn't the whole point of 301 to get spam links on old domain and then 301 it to $ site?
Why is filtering necessary ?
What if i put robots.txt on an old domain and disallow everything to get domain de-indexed.. afterwards I would start spamming it..
after a week or so I would 301 it to the money site.. wouldn't that work better?

A brand new domain that recieves a tonne of links with get v&nned straight away, really quick!

Using an aged domain as a buffer allows you to lengthen the time taken for the ban of your brand new Domain A and also keeps the tonne of links produced nice and clean so you can simply flip over to a new website when you need to.

Will probably never do this but:

Does the aged domain have to be clean?

Yep, clean and something nice like a PR2 or 3

Hi. I'm not sure if you answered this, but is the aged domain related to the niche?

Nah, i've used travel domains in the loans market lmao! So ye, doesn't have to be the same market at all once it's clean.

 

[Tahx]

Just something that I don't understand. Google is the one that determine the authority of a domain, so if the Gbot can't index domain C and B because of the 301, google doesn't know that the link juice is transfered over the domain A, and will never get any juice and will never rank. Or it will still follow all links but will just not index the domain ? According to what you said it seems logic that Gbot will still follow all links, but then the penalty can still be pushed on the domain C or google push a penalty only when the domain is indexed ? Again according to what you said google push a penalty only when a domain is indexed so, and you just found something really cool.

Nice case study.

 

[Tilko]

I was talking bout spamming old domain and then redirecting it to the money site..

 

[forethan]

What is the magic to a domain being deindexed from google seems to create a huge ranking factor in google algorythm?

Some people asks this question but i've seen no answer?
The question is why domain A will have a big boost in google whereas domain B is deindexed from google?

 

[Tilko]

google can't ban your domain that is de-indexed since google can't find it..
that way you can easily redirect it to another money site after the Domain A (money site) gets banned.
+ 301 domains get de-indexed eventually anyway..