How do they manage to get all those backlinks?

[belzebuth666]

Hi,

I was looking in yahoo at

linkdomain: somesite.xx

and was amazed to see how many backlink that site got. The thing is that the websites linking to this site are all blogs or low profile sites absolutely not linking to whatever this site is proposing. The weirdest thing is that those blogs are actually up to date.

2 questions:

1) How is it possible to put a link to another site without the link been visible to people but been visible for search engine?

2) How can possibly one guy operate 500+ blogs only to promote his site?

So weird to me.

 

[teguh123]

They mainly use xrumer or autopligg. After that it takes time. I also spam blogspots but not anymore because the program is being improved.

 

[belzebuth666]

Hmmm... Are you sure? Xrumer and Autopligg are spam programs leaving spam comments. What is particular about this situation is that all the blogs are phony blogs; I mean all the sites are sites promoting products in each post. I would post some URL but I don't have the right because I don't have 15 posts yet on this forum.

You see, the site offers "reviews" on some banking thing, and he got links from blogs on any subject. As an example, there is that blog on "life weight loss" which posted a full text on the same subject as the other site and which linked with the exact good keywords.

How is that guy doing it?

Thanks

 

[teguh123]

I used to have 10k blogs to. Created automatically. But google ban those quickly and I just need a way to avoid the ban. Not figuring that out yet.

Yes. That's the fastest way to get indexed. Even faster that xrumer or autopligg.

 

[belzebuth666]

Huh-hmmm... 10K blogs? Wow. Still, this is an investment. All the links I see there are from registered domains...

Take a look:

type linkdomain: dentitytheftprotectionins [dot] com in Yahoo

this is amazing

 

[4alllifestyles]

blogfarm group with articles (blog posts) being fed by a network... very effective, most are very secretive in their operation.

Think about it. If everyone on BHW had a small blogfarm (10 sites) and everyone submitted articles (spin format) that would autodistribute to everyone.. how many backlinks would everyone get? Add in n article approve function, and "choose segments to allow postings" for a tad bit of targeting and the potential is massive.

 

[enrikole]

I used to have 10k blogs to. Created automatically. But google ban those quickly and I just need a way to avoid the ban. Not figuring that out yet.

Yes. That's the fastest way to get indexed. Even faster that xrumer or autopligg.

bit offtopic. but you have probably got the longest signature i have ever seen

 

[belzebuth666]

blogfarm group with articles (blog posts) being fed by a network... very effective, most are very secretive in their operation.

Think about it. If everyone on BHW had a small blogfarm (10 sites) and everyone submitted articles (spin format) that would autodistribute to everyone.. how many backlinks would everyone get? Add in n article approve function, and "choose segments to allow postings" for a tad bit of targeting and the potential is massive.

I thought about that. But since each and every site would be a PR_0, how could it help? I mean: 1000 times PR_0 is still PR_0, right?

 

[adamster]

Theres no secret really. You want to make money you will have to spend some. Make your own network and build quality backlinks from web 2.0 properties and use the tools that are mentioned on BHW. Make sure to optimize your sites for targeted keywords and work on internal linking. There is no begging for a link exchange and waste time contacting your main competition. Patience is what it takes, you can not build an empire overnight.

 

[4alllifestyles]

I thought about that. But since each and every site would be a PR_0, how could it help? I mean: 1000 times PR_0 is still PR_0, right?

You would be amazed at how many go to PR1 or PR2 very quickly... After less than a year some will show much higher. Unique sites, many people using their own blogfarm customizations, inserting their own links, a little bit of Web2.0 and it gets very powerful very quickly.

 

[FrankCastle]

I like the concept of controlling you own link destiny. Is there any other resources regarding blogfarming? Thanks

 

[belzebuth666]

You would be amazed at how many go to PR1 or PR2 very quickly... After less than a year some will show much higher. Unique sites, many people using their own blogfarm customizations, inserting their own links, a little bit of Web2.0 and it gets very powerful very quickly.

Hmmm... Sounds interesting, but from a practical point of view, how can that be possible? The sites linking to the first one were all updated. I can't imagine a guy updating 1000+ sites from his basement... unless he got some monkey typing for him. But the thing is: the posts actually made sense! Maybe he bought the content? I heard about PLR... but wouldn't that be duplicate content anyway? I am looking at avoid-identity-theft[dot]net and am amazed at the quantity of content there.

BTW: if let"s say I got a site #1 on cars and a site #2 on bikes.. How can I make the link without mixing the people visiting the site? Would it be appropriate to put the links on a random page only accessible by the sitemap or is there any other way?

 

[belzebuth666]

Theres no secret really. You want to make money you will have to spend some. Make your own network and build quality backlinks from web 2.0 properties and use the tools that are mentioned on BHW. Make sure to optimize your sites for targeted keywords and work on internal linking. There is no begging for a link exchange and waste time contacting your main competition. Patience is what it takes, you can not build an empire overnight.

Already bought Boomarking Demon. So far, not much success from it.

 

[Worfik]

Could you post the domain name you were checking? Because now I can only guess and my guess is that the site is using some kind of link exchange program which rotates links.

 

[belzebuth666]

Could you post the domain name you were checking? Because now I can only guess and my guess is that the site is using some kind of link exchange program which rotates links.

identitytheftprotectionins[dot]com

 

[4alllifestyles]

think bigger, much, much bigger....

Pardon the length, but here's as short an example as I can think of...

BlackHatter1 - 10 blog blogfarm.. bikes, cars, planes, trains, boats (2 each)

BlackHatter2 - 10 blog blogfarm.. forex, drop-shipping, refinance, tax tips, marketing


BlackHatter3 - Runs the central point, software that will auto-update the two blog farms.. And an Article posting site for added measure.

BH1 puts unique "spun" articles that BH2 may use in tax tips and refinance, maybe drop-shipping too (car parts for example). All with linkbacks.

BH2 puts unique "spun" articles that BH1 may use in cars, planes, boats (tax-tips, refinance, maybe drop-ship, maybe how to spend your forex money).

Since BH1 and BH2 each "Approve" every article that flows to them from the system that BH3 provides, all content is targeted. AD submissions from 3rd parties help keep it fresh (not simply exchange between BH2 and BH1).

Add in that BH1 and BH2 will more than likely promote themselves via Web2.0 only helps everyone in the mix as well.

This is so doable it's ridiculous. Ive even thought about putting a content provider together (easy yes, but costly yes too).

That's how the content is so focused and on-subject. I know this works.

Hmmm... Sounds interesting, but from a practical point of view, how can that be possible? The sites linking to the first one were all updated. I can't imagine a guy updating 1000+ sites from his basement... unless he got some monkey typing for him. But the thing is: the posts actually made sense! Maybe he bought the content? I heard about PLR... but wouldn't that be duplicate content anyway? I am looking at avoid-identity-theft[dot]net and am amazed at the quantity of content there.

BTW: if let"s say I got a site #1 on cars and a site #2 on bikes.. How can I make the link without mixing the people visiting the site? Would it be appropriate to put the links on a random page only accessible by the sitemap or is there any other way?

 

[belzebuth666]

Thanks a lot of the tips 4alllifestyles. May I ask you where it is possible to find software that can "auto-update" (where do I find content BTW if not writing it?) the two blogs farms and that can post to article posting sites?

BMD is nice for bookmarking sites, but maybe I'd need the same for articles database and I'd need to be able to run content for each blog farm. (BTW, I read somewhere that link farms could get sandboxed by Google...)

Thanks

 

[4alllifestyles]

Thanks a lot of the tips 4alllifestyles. May I ask you where it is possible to find software that can "auto-update" (where do I find content BTW if not writing it?) the two blogs farms and that can post to article posting sites?

BMD is nice for bookmarking sites, but maybe I'd need the same for articles database and I'd need to be able to run content for each blog farm. (BTW, I read somewhere that link farms could get sandboxed by Google...)

Thanks

That's why you've got to do it with a number of people, each with their own blogfarms, linkwheels, etc. Everyone focusing on their own niches but there will always be overlap, shared interests, complimentary subjects. If you get over 100 blogs it's so random that it defies all but the biggest pattern recofnition.

Like I said, I've thought about building one to replace one I'm in now. But it costs a pile to build and would need a ton of other people with their own blogfarms that want to participate.

But there are groups out there. If you dig hard you'll find them. They're all "hiding in plain sight" so to speak.

 

[belzebuth666]

If I got that right, 4alllifestyles, the blogs linking to the site are somehow real blogs made by real people... They get paid for linking to the minisite farm, that is?

What can a lone guy like me still do in this world?

Is there any software that could help? Or can it be too easy for Google to find people using them and sandbox their sites?

And where can I find those groups?

Sorry for all the questions, but this puzzle me.

I really feel like a complete newbie here. Strange but funny. I haven't been a newbie in anything for a long time. I will enjoy this moment before it is gone!

 

[iglow]

Its not 'real blogs' its semi automated.