YT Recent Update - Views No Longer Counting
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infobrandz
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Yes, I also noticed it- Bot views are no longer in counting.
umerjutt00
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So did any one of you found what the new change was??? I still can't figure it out. Any help will be highly appreciated.
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You keep on believing that..more money for us.
All the suppliers are still down..
+I still didn't figured out how to make my script work again.. Pretty frustrating.
Actually not MANY providers are down. When you say "my", is it actually yours or was it one of the scripts shared publicly? If I wasn't made solely for you, you should have seen this coming. Any public bots or scripts die because it's an invitation for Google to patch what they are exploiting. If you want something to work long term, keep it private.
Only Google knows the full story but as blueplanet said, it seems as though they targeted a number of High Retention exploits. Mobile views which hardly one anyone uses anymore were left alone.
Tommy Lawrence
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Have you considered the possibility that it's not so much about WHAT the script code contains but rather WHERE it is embedded? I assume Google has a lot of traffic analytics data about various websites, so who's to say that they are not double-checking the traffic stats on a particular website/blog and comparing it to the supposed video plays/views from that page, to see whether the data actually matches up. In other words, YouTube could be doing extra verification or background checks on the pages where embedded views are coming from, in an attempt to prevent view inflation.
umerjutt00
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and what if they have encoded the referrer somewhere in the requests in the form of a paramter and when we try to use a different referrer, the request is simply rejected by the YouTube servers??
The day they start doing that kind of validations you won't see any thread selling HR views.
umerjutt00
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I'm honestly not sure - although I have a feeling of what it could be. Problem is, this takes a bit of "luck" but a shitload more of time to test (because all you can do is test, it's hard to do confirm it otherwise) of which I have little. What I mean with my other post is that I could think a lot of ways for Youtube to avoid this happening in the future, and if they implement any of these, it will be totally over; but this isn't the case.
However, I'll confirm tomorrow if what I think it is, is.
Take my word, if there are others doing it on a great scale, it can't be hard, but as with anything, it will take tests and time.
However, I'll confirm tomorrow if what I think it is, is.
Take my word, if there are others doing it on a great scale, it can't be hard, but as with anything, it will take tests and time.
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umerjutt00
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Yes the hardest part is testing.. You make some changes and then wait for 12-24 hours to see the effects... Let us all know if you found what changes have to be made.
tb303
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This is a good point. For example if you are using a html SCRIPT tag to do the requests to the youtube servers then they can easily see that the referrer parameters in the requests do not match the http referrer seen by their server.
Ive not tried any sort of testing though Im determined not to spend Christmas staring at fiddler LOL...but its very tempting.
umerjutt00
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No that's not the reason.. I talked to few friends and they said it is about sending more requests along with the api/stats/playback and the watchtime... Now just sending these 2 is not going to work...
RCKid
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just wanted to say that even regular embed real views are not counting correctly. I have a high traffic website where I embed videos on once in a while. I have a tracker set up which tracks each embedded play. For the past week I tracked 8,800+ real viewers of which only 900 got counted by youtube. Before 12/14 youtube counted 95-99% of these embedded plays. This is pretty frustrating considering these are real viewers.
Elite_GamerX
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The latest YT update has affected a lot of view sellers. My own friends shop is closed due to this problem.
He is working on getting it fixed atm. But heck, it is really terrifying.
He is working on getting it fixed atm. But heck, it is really terrifying.
umerjutt00
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This is really crazy.... Looks like YouTube is intentionally not counting all the views.. Have you discussed this issue on the YouTUbe support forum??
tb303
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well, ive always sent more than that. from memory... /gen_204, /user_watch /ptracking /set_awesome /stream_204.
umerjutt00
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Have papers going on.. + some other reasons.. so can't check right now.. but that's what my friend told me... that sending other requests will work... Have you tried watchpage requests?? Maybe filters on embedded requests are tight??
BabyMonster
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BusinessMagnet
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