AVOID bloodface906 He Tried To Scam Me For $60

[DarkParagon]

Hello,

On one of my threads I am selling cheap 48 hour xbox gold Codes, bloodface906 posted there saying he wanted to buy codes asap, and left his skype details. later that day I added him, and we negotiated a price of $60 USD for X amount of 48 hour xbox live gold codes. After he sent the money to my Paypal account, I sent him the codes through email. All was good but the next day when I logged in Paypal he charged back the money. I tried contacting him on skype when he was online but he just ignored me.

I have opened a Paypal dispute, but since they were virtual goods I probably wont get my money back. I have attached a screenshot of the skype conversation we had.

 

[OldSalt]

bloodface906 is the accused and has been notified he has 48 hours to respond.

OS

PS. REMINDER Shit list rules #4:
If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread.

 

[OldSalt]

bloodface906 had plenty of time to respond to the SL and even mentioned it in another thread.

No response = perma ban.

OS

 

[DarkParagon]

Thanks for that OldSalt.

Update: I managed to get my $60 back, even though he paid me for virtual goods

 

[Happyrobot]

How to avoid chargeback? DarkParagon, how were you able to get it back?

 

[susanjabs]

paypal dispute for virtual goods always in favor of seller until credit card company not involved and matter only with paypal.

 

[OldSalt]

paypal dispute for virtual goods always in favor of seller until credit card company not involved and matter only with paypal.

Read two posts above yours and you will realize that the world ALWAYS in your statement probably isn't accurate. For that matter, I'm 1 for 2 for getting back my money for virtual goods when the seller didn't deliver. Most of the time? Sure... Always? Nope.

OS

 

[kvmcable]

OS is correct. When I'm a buyer of virtual goods I get the PP response virtual goods not covered and lose the case. When I'm the seller of virtual goods I get the PP response virtual goods are not covered and lose the case. It seems PP tells the same story to buyers and sellers. I'm beginning to think they keep the money for themselves telling both the other parties they loss the case.

 

[DarkParagon]

OS is correct. When I'm a buyer of virtual goods I get the PP response virtual goods not covered and lose the case. When I'm the seller of virtual goods I get the PP response virtual goods are not covered and lose the case. It seems PP tells the same story to buyers and sellers. I'm beginning to think they keep the money for themselves telling both the other parties they loss the case.

It wouldn't surprise me if that was the case.

 

[blackberry]

Can I just point out that if a buyer pays for virtual items though PayPal BUT uses the credit card option they CAN get their money back.

The credit card option can be the one that you added to PayPal OR one not attached to your PayPal account.

When you file with the credit card company, use one of these reason codes:

30 - Services Not Provided or Merchandise Not Received

53 - Not as Described or Defective Merchandise

75 - Cardholder Does Not Recognize the Transaction


Error code 53 is the most common.

I sell virtual goods too, and unless I prove I delivered the goods I will be forced by PayPal to refund the money.
How to prove it...well I keep a history of support ticket and also screenshots of emails sent to build my case. I know it works as I have yet to lose a PayPal case (either as a buyer or seller).

Hope that helps you.

OS is correct. When I'm a buyer of virtual goods I get the PP response virtual goods not covered and lose the case. When I'm the seller of virtual goods I get the PP response virtual goods are not covered and lose the case. It seems PP tells the same story to buyers and sellers. I'm beginning to think they keep the money for themselves telling both the other parties they loss the case.

 

[Wilson Grant Fisk]

Can I just point out that if a buyer pays for virtual items though PayPal BUT uses the credit card option they CAN get their money back.

The credit card option can be the one that you added to PayPal OR one not attached to your PayPal account.

When you file with the credit card company, use one of these reason codes:

30 - Services Not Provided or Merchandise Not Received

53 - Not as Described or Defective Merchandise

75 - Cardholder Does Not Recognize the Transaction


Error code 53 is the most common.

I sell virtual goods too, and unless I prove I delivered the goods I will be forced by PayPal to refund the money.
How to prove it...well I keep a history of support ticket and also screenshots of emails sent to build my case. I know it works as I have yet to lose a PayPal case (either as a buyer or seller).

Hope that helps you.

Some useful information there. How about starting a thread to help both Buyers and Sellers?
If you have a full list of reason codes, that would be great too.

 

[blackberry]

Sure I can do that but to be honest I havent a clue what to write in the thread or what to offer.
If I knew specifically what people wanted help on, I would gladly be available.


A full list of reason codes (which can be numbers most of the time but also letters (usually 2 or three letters)) can be gotten from most banks and card processors such as these:

<CODE>https://www.wellsfargo.com/biz/merchant/service/manage/chargeback/</CODE>

<CODE>http://www.managechargebacks.com/reasoncodes.html</CODE>

<CODE>http://www.merchantconnect.com/CWRWeb/pdf/CBRReasonCodeListUS0908.pdf</CODE>


NOTE: I do NOT work for wells fargo and i don't not own or have any association with any of the three websites listed.

Some useful information there. How about starting a thread to help both Buyers and Sellers?
If you have a full list of reason codes, that would be great too.

 

[Wilson Grant Fisk]

Sure I can do that but to be honest I havent a clue what to write in the thread or what to offer.
If I knew specifically what people wanted help on, I would gladly be available.


A full list of reason codes (which can be numbers most of the time but also letters (usually 2 or three letters)) can be gotten from most banks and card processors such as these:

<CODE>https://www.wellsfargo.com/biz/merchant/service/manage/chargeback/</CODE>

<CODE>http://www.managechargebacks.com/reasoncodes.html</CODE>

<CODE>http://www.merchantconnect.com/CWRWeb/pdf/CBRReasonCodeListUS0908.pdf</CODE>


NOTE: I do NOT work for wells fargo and i don't not own or have any association with any of the three websites listed.

Thanks for that, I will look at those links.

 

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