thisismymp3
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said it before will say it again
SHERLOCK HACKS YOUR SITE UP
SHERLOCK HACKS YOUR SITE UP
Google rankings instantly dropped ?
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antichrist
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I have been using sherlock as an anchor text diversifier for over a year. Still works great.
antichrist
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I always pair sherlock off with some high quality blog posts from different networks. You can not go wrong there.
SpiderBlast
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I don't know shit about sherlocks service but I've seen people complain about it before.
I've seen people complain about a lot of popular services on here, which is why I don't
use any BHW SEO for my sites. I only use them for videos.
I've found much better services on WF. Because WF isn't such a magnet for Matt Cutts
and its much harder to find the good services (which I like). But there ARE some stellar
services on WF. Every single keyword I send to my SEO guy, he gets to #1 in G. And
he is smart as fuck. He secures the shit out of his networks, blocks his links, and screens
the shit out of new clients, to make sure they're not competitors. If I had to guess, I'd
say he rejects about 20% of all new clients. If he can't prove who you are, and your
keywords are too competitive, he rejects your campaign.
And thats one thing I've always respected about him. He has no problem saying "your
keywords are too competitive for my network" or "I don't know who you are so I
rejected your campaign".
Its little measures like that which keeps a service safe and working long term.
The guys on here, I barely see ANY of them screening clients. And they tell you way too
much about what they're doing. They don't hide links. They don't protect their networks.
With that said, I have still had a few sites penalized. But all those sites were sites that
I built backlinks to myself (along with the service I use). All the sites that he has done
100% of the backlinking on, have survived every single update, and continue to rank #1.
Also, I would never use a service that people recommend outside the sales thread, and
in the forums. Because when you find a service that actually works, and doesn't get your
sites banned, you don't go around sharing it on the forums, or talking about it on forums,
or pm'm it to people. You keep it to yourself, and don't say a word about it.
-SB
I've seen people complain about a lot of popular services on here, which is why I don't
use any BHW SEO for my sites. I only use them for videos.
I've found much better services on WF. Because WF isn't such a magnet for Matt Cutts
and its much harder to find the good services (which I like). But there ARE some stellar
services on WF. Every single keyword I send to my SEO guy, he gets to #1 in G. And
he is smart as fuck. He secures the shit out of his networks, blocks his links, and screens
the shit out of new clients, to make sure they're not competitors. If I had to guess, I'd
say he rejects about 20% of all new clients. If he can't prove who you are, and your
keywords are too competitive, he rejects your campaign.
And thats one thing I've always respected about him. He has no problem saying "your
keywords are too competitive for my network" or "I don't know who you are so I
rejected your campaign".
Its little measures like that which keeps a service safe and working long term.
The guys on here, I barely see ANY of them screening clients. And they tell you way too
much about what they're doing. They don't hide links. They don't protect their networks.
With that said, I have still had a few sites penalized. But all those sites were sites that
I built backlinks to myself (along with the service I use). All the sites that he has done
100% of the backlinking on, have survived every single update, and continue to rank #1.
Also, I would never use a service that people recommend outside the sales thread, and
in the forums. Because when you find a service that actually works, and doesn't get your
sites banned, you don't go around sharing it on the forums, or talking about it on forums,
or pm'm it to people. You keep it to yourself, and don't say a word about it.
-SB
PrinceVisi
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What possible harm can Webmaster Tools bring to your website, then actually help?
Like google wouldn't know how many backlinks do you have if you don't submit your website?
Google it's a fucking robot, with an algorithm in mind and the only thing it knows is calculate.
Stop being so paranoid.
PrinceVisi
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I really liked everything you said there.
Would you PM me the guy on WF so I can pre-screen him and see if he is worth?
SkyrocketSEO
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They penalized my sites that were registered with webmasters tools just cause these were my sites. One site had 3 links in total from normal sites(2 of those were no-follow), site was 3 months old and they said it was manual penalty for unnatural link building for the purpose of gaming the PR system??
Sites not in the webmasters tools are not connected with me so they didn't penalize these...Wasn't doing any BH SEO on any site.
PrinceVisi
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Really!
You made the most rookie mistake ever, because they clearly say you can not do that.
Be careful next time!
SpiderBlast
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I agree. People who say not to use WMT or Chrome are out of their minds. Its all based on hearsay and
anecdotal evidence. And all I ever see people do is link to 1 thread or some terms of service as "proof".
Its almost like they don't understand that Google is built on a massive algorithm, that is designed to collect
information directly from sites. They don't need any extra tools like WMT or Chrome to spy on you. What
the hell is chrome going to do? Report back information about sites you visited? Then somehow figure out
"this guy visited blackhatforums, then visited this site, so it must mean he's using blackhat on that site"???
Its more likely that G's algo finds your site, and figures out what you're doing. And the whole point of SEO
is to beat the system. So if you're beating the system properly in the first place, you have no reason to
worry about G's algo, or WMT, or Chrome, or anything at all.
-SB
BlackHatRael
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For Chrome it seems pretty logical if you hang out on blackhat forum and do Black hat seo to "do not tempt the lord"; I'v got my mailbox on gmail and using Chrome, I switch to firefox which is as fast and I will host my mail (create my own smtp server). More secure, what is the purpose of not taking this preventive actions ?
Bartholomew
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Chrome - big NO. Use Chromium instead if you want this browser.
WMT - yes, but with precautions. Sometimes you need WMT. In such case use fresh instance of virtual machine each time you connect to WMT. One WMT account - one site. In virtual machine use a browser such as CHromium with high-anonymous proxy from the same region your site is supposed to be targeted. You don't need WMT too often, so just delete virtual machine image when you finished. Next time you will use fresh virtual machine again, it's fast, you may just download some ready to use image from internet.
WMT - yes, but with precautions. Sometimes you need WMT. In such case use fresh instance of virtual machine each time you connect to WMT. One WMT account - one site. In virtual machine use a browser such as CHromium with high-anonymous proxy from the same region your site is supposed to be targeted. You don't need WMT too often, so just delete virtual machine image when you finished. Next time you will use fresh virtual machine again, it's fast, you may just download some ready to use image from internet.
SpiderBlast
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This doesn't prove shit.
I have sites that have been in WMT tools for years, using BH SEO, and they've never been penalized. The only sites that have
been penalized are the ones where I KNEW I was doing something stupid, and taking unnecessary risks.
Your sites could have been penalized for 100 other reasons you've never even considered.
Its so much easier for people to pick out 1 thing, and say "thats the reason my sites were banned".
So they have some imaginary, oversimplified solution to their problems.
Kinda like, "My cars engine burnt out, so it had to be that new gas station I went to. The car was brand new, 3 months old,
and I always took it to the same station. Then the 1 day I go to a different station, the engine breaks, so I KNOW that gas
station is the reason why!".
This is actually quite common with homicides too. Even trained professional make this error in judgement all the time.
A person can be killed with cyanide, and the medical examiner finds an empty bag of heroin by his bed (put there by the
murderer) but they rule out homicide, and say it was a self induced drug overdose.
All I'm saying is, the human mind is very easily deceived. In fact, it is an expert in deceiving itself.
SpiderBlast
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"The purpose"?
Well first, I love chrome. And I also have firefox on my computer, and chrome is 100xs faster than firefox (on my pc).
It opens quicker, it browses quicker, it does everything quicker. You may not notice it because you have a faster internet connection than I do. But I'm on wireless, and everything is faster using Chrome.
I also like chromes lay out better. And I use incognito and awful lot. What does firefox have that is like incognito? Is there anything?
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Chrome is not faster than Firefox, that is a myth. Secondly, yes Chrome does phone back every url you visit, that is not hearsay or conspiracy, all you have to do is open wireshark or some packet dumper and see all the SSL connections back to google - when you're not even visiting google.... If you think they don't use that data, then go ahead and join the Anglo Rank team, who by the way were happy using Gmail for their sales.
So I don't know what you're talking about here, all I know is if you do black hat seo using chrome or webmaster tools you WILL be caught and you WILL be profiled forever.
goldendeli
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Considering all the rankings dropped like that at the same time rather than just one page I would recommend getting your links analyzed. There's a good chance some of hte sources have been penalized and deindexed or lost the actual PR. Recently Ive seen many networks go under and lose PR altogether.
Either give up on the domain or spend time and money cleaning up your links. Regardless of what anyone tells you buying more shitty links is only gonna make it worse.
Either give up on the domain or spend time and money cleaning up your links. Regardless of what anyone tells you buying more shitty links is only gonna make it worse.
cloakndagger2
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Put all your sites in one account, get a penalty on one, lmk what happens to the rest of the sites in the same GWT account !
I have no idea how it works but I have seen countless examples of someone getting hit, only for the other sites in the account to get slapped. I have never used chrome so I can't comment on that but I can comment on GWT.
As to the OP's question, the serps change alot more often nowadays, I'd give it some time, of course building high quality links in the meantime won't do you any harm. Private networks are the way to go, by this I mean create your own network and look after it.