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I received a 3 points Infraction for calling someone a moron (not a client obviously).


Checked the Rules section (http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/misc.php?do=vsarules)
yet I can't find anything in regards to insults, perhaps I missed it?

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I see people insulting each other ever so often, now does everyone get infractions and banned for this matter?
Would be good to know - thanks everyone.
 
who gives a sh!t man.. after the neg rep whiners, the infraction whiners. apologise to whoever you insulted and the mods and go back to work.

Relax I am not whining I am concerned and wanted some light on this.
 
Was it a warning or were you actually given points? I got one too even though the other member said much worse than I did. I believe the Mods are trying to reduce the amount of flaming that's been going on lately by giving infractions/warnings. Which will work or get a lot of people banned.
 
This is the closest i can find.

3.7 Engaging in content that harasses, degrades, intimidates or is hateful toward an individual or group of individuals on the basis of religion, gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, age, or disability.

and this

Although Black Hat World does not have the ability to police the Site, our administrators and moderators reserve the right, but do not have any obligation, to issue infractions or bans as they see fit. If you receive 3 infractions on this forum, you be permanently banned from the Site.
 
Now it should be clear that insulting hurts the same way to the insulted party! :)

Isn't there a "Report Post" button still available to request removal of a "moronic" post than to insult the member for it?P.

P.S.:
You could have reported the post to mods and requested for its removal because the post was "moronic" and unsuitable on your sales thread. Mods could even have banned the member then depending on the severity of the poster's moronism.
 
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what is a infection here... always a bann ? or only a warning ?

First of all it's an infraction not an "infection"... And an infraction is is like a warning/notice that a user receives when violating the rules of BHW. I think after you receive so many infractions there's certain privileges that can be revoked and can even result in a Permanent Ban if I'm not mistaken.

Skittles, is it possible that you did something else because I didn't think they issued infractions just for calling someone a name? Anyways, no one should be calling anyone any names! This isn't an elementary school and everyone should be respectful to everyone. Even if someone is a newb, idiot or moron, keep it to yourself and move on.

If you have nothing nice to say, then it's best you say nothing at all.

Veyron
 
The problem I have is that sometimes the stupid (aka "morons", or "retards") really ARE stupid. It's not a comparison, say for example one peer is calling another peer "stupid" as a metaphor (where saying that they are "like a stupid person" would be a simile", in many cases it's a DIAGNOSIS, no different than if they were told they had chlamydia, scabies or cranial rectosis.

I think it's wrong to always assume that if a word is used to described another Member could be considered "insulting", then that is the ONLY interpretation. I think some consideration should be given to the possibility that it's TRUE, in which case calling someone stupid is simply a matter of stating a fact. The sky is blue, snow is white, and SweTech is stupid. Truth is an absolute defense against slander. And instead of punishing those smart and brave enough to make a diagnosis by giving them an infraction, Forum Staff should instead REWARD those that have what it takes to make the call. Say for example a little 2 on 1 action with a couple of those sweet young girls at WowPorn.

Beyond that, there is a 128 Crayola Crayon Box just chock-full of all the various colors of stupid, and modifiers for those variations, such as "stupid dumbass", and "fucking retard" and the more intensely felt statement "stupid fucking retard" which not only establishes the extremely low level of the diagnosed person's intelligence ("stupid retard" vs a person that only has an average level of retardation), but the intensifier "fucking" describes how passionately committed the person making the diagnosis is.

Would you have Forum Staff interfere with BHW Members abilities to diagnose gonorrhea? Lives are at stake here, people. We need to be able to speak freely about the contagious diseases that afflict our society. Would you support a law that prohibits calling someone a "lepper"? What if it was your fingers & toes that were in danger of falling off? Wouldn't you want to know who the lepper was?

It's a community health issue. Stupidity is contagious, and it is transmitted electronically by 1's and 0's on the internet. One infected stupid person can infect an entire forum of people, bringing all of them down to their low level, and then the next thing you know THEY ARE IN CHARGE of the place. One need only look at the Federal Government to see the natural end-result of the Stupidity Acceptance Movement. The fate of all humanity is at stake here, people. For the love of God, please do something, before it's TOO LATE. The stupid are breeding at an exponential rate, and food stamp cards can only be manufactured so fast.

This has been a Public Service Announcement, brought to you by the fine people at the "National Organization to Involuntarily Sterilize Stupid People", and their Sponsors.
 
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I do disagree with calling people names. That is elementary as stated by another member here.

HOWEVER

Sometimes it certainly, CERTAINLY is appropriate. But those who whine make the most noise. It's why I take breaks from this forum and remember to be more productive.
 
The problem I have is that sometimes the stupid (aka "morons", or "retards") really ARE stupid. It's not a comparison, say for example one peer is calling another peer "stupid" as a metaphor (where saying that they are "like a stupid person" would be a simile", in many cases it's a DIAGNOSIS, no different than if they were told they had chlamydia, scabies or cranial rectosis.

I think it's wrong to always assume that if a word is used to described another Member could be considered "insulting", then that is the ONLY interpretation. I think some consideration should be given to the possibility that it's TRUE, in which case calling someone stupid is simply a matter of stating a fact. The sky is blue, snow is white, and SweTech is stupid. Truth is an absolute defense against slander. And instead of punishing those smart and brave enough to make a diagnosis by giving them an infraction, Forum Staff should instead REWARD those that have what it takes to make the call. Say for example a little 2 on 1 action with a couple of those sweet young girls at WowPorn.

Beyond that, there is a 128 Crayola Crayon Box just chock-full of all the various colors of stupid, and modifiers for those variations, such as "stupid dumbass", and "fucking retard" and the more intensely felt statement "stupid fucking retard" which not only establishes the extremely low level of the diagnosed person's intelligence ("stupid retard" vs a person that only has an average level of retardation), but the intensifier "fucking" describes how passionately committed the person making the diagnosis is.

Would you have Forum Staff interfere with BHW Members abilities to diagnose gonorrhea? Lives are at stake here, people. We need to be able to speak freely about the contagious diseases that afflict our society. Would you support a law that prohibits calling someone a "leper"? What if it was your fingers & toes that were in danger of falling off? Wouldn't you want to know who the leber was?

It's a community health issue. Stupidity is contagious, and it is transmitted electronically by 1's and 0's on the internet. One infected stupid person can infect an entire forum of people, bringing all of them down to their low level, and then the next thing you know THEY ARE IN CHARGE of the place. One need only look at the Federal Government to see the natural end-result of the Stupidity Acceptance Movement. The fate of all humanity is at stake here, people. For the love of God, please do something, before it's TOO LATE. The stupid are breeding at an exponential rate, and food stamp cards can only be manufactured so fast.

This has been a Public Service Announcement, brought to you by the fine people at the "National Organization to Involuntarily Sterilize Stupid People", and their Sponsors.

I'm speechless...

Veyron
 
Skittles, are you asking for suggestions from bhw members or questioning mods decision regarding your infraction?

If you have any queries feel free to pm mods regarding your infraction instead posting a thread.

check this again...


3.7 Engaging in content that harasses, degrades, intimidates or is hateful toward an individual or group of individuals on the basis of religion, gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, age, or disability.
 
whether or not you receive an infraction is up to the individual judgement of every mod that comes across your post.

so for example if out of 10 mods that read your post, 9 of them condone it and 1 doesn't, then the net result is you get an infraction.


personally, i like to consult a magic 8-ball whenever i come across these kinds of situations.

8HonF8V
 
whether or not you receive an infraction is up to the individual judgement of every mod that comes across your post.

so for example if out of 10 mods that read your post, 9 of them condone it and 1 doesn't, then the net result is you get an infraction.


personally, i like to consult a magic 8-ball whenever i come across these kinds of situations.

8HonF8V

LOL! My moderator my moderator!
 
Dear Mushini,

You have received an infraction at Black Hat Forum Black Hat SEO.

Reason: Racist Remarks
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Racist remarks
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This infraction is worth 3 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.


Yes, because English is the native language of India (where Indians come from, in case you didn't know.)
And Indians aren't commonly given English writing/speaking jobs, at a cost less than native English speakers will accept. But seriously though, there's a grammatical error in that sentence! I swear.

Also, something related to OP, I think BHW is geared towards a specific purpose. Calling people names is generally believed not to help ANYTHING. Nigel, your creativity is beautiful.

Here's an insult posted very recently: "
I'm so sure you did. You're probably 57 and still living in your parents' basement scrounging for pennies."
This type of insult can be very hurtful. I doubt he/she was given an infraction for being ageist or for targeting 57 year olds living with their parents.

Typical social constructs. I think infractions have replaced the reputation system.

Skittles:
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3.7 Engaging in content that harasses, degrades, intimidates or is hateful toward an INDIVIDUAL or group of individuals ON THE BASIS OF religion, gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, age, or DISABILITY."
I don't know what you posted, and subsequently, I don't know if you got an infraction for calling someone a moron. But it's possible your insult was based on a disability (learning disability, retardation, etc) Take my racism infraction for example. I didn't target anyone specifically, but I mentioned the word 'Indian' (which means one who is native to India, hence, race). I can see it being possible that using the word 'moron' as an insult towards someone could be degrading towards genuine morons (people with an intelligence disability - a group of individuals).

I just remembered, I watched a show on the origin of the word moron. Apparently it doesn't have a clear meaning.
 
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didnt know you could get infractions for insulting :cool:

well good to know :eek:
 
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