Scritty
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A couple of points here.
Firstly this is a "Rank Spearman" correlation of factors that are common to a very specific and select sub group of sites that are ALREADY POPULAR. The top sites for the top 10,000 search terms. Might seem like a lot of breadth there, but there is not. "Bank" Insurance" "Diet" "Car" "travel" "money" "mortgage" "website" "school" ... I could go on and on - and that would just be the shortest of short tails (one word) search terms add "weight loss" "payday loans" "life insurance" "foreign travel" and you can quadruple the single word terms and the 10,000 figure is gone pretty quick while never even touching the sort of long tail your average affilaite would even consider going for.
Then they are only looking at the BEST sites in these terms.
Tis is a fraction of the number the guys at SEOmetrics look at (16 million sites completely randomly chosen) as a study it is a factor of about 100 x smaller in terms of dataset searchmetrics and seometrics are two different teams however.
Ok - this is very important as it means two things.
Firstly - It does not sort out cause from effect. These are popular sites to begin with. It begs the question..
Do social links create popularity and a rise in SERPs and traffic potential.. or do already popular sites attract more social links and therefore the addage that "correlation does not always equal causation" should be applied or at least considered?
Secondly - one way or another - the top 7 in the list are links. Be they social or otherwise. A retweet is a link, a facebook like is a link a Google +1 is a link. Yes they are social links - but links all the same
A take away from this might be that this is not a random selection of sites - this test was carried out on a preselected group of already popular sites. The rules for aged authority sites that attract a 7 figure number of visitors per month has always been VERY different to small sites with reaches a fraction of that.
Overdoing social signals can be the kiss of death. The BBC's coverage of the birth of the Royal Baby last week garnered under 1000 Google+1's despite being read by 17 MILLION people in the first 48 hours. (sdo about one in 20,000 visitors "+1d" it). Facebook likes were a lot higher but still under 15,000 (so under 1 in 1000 people "Liked" it)
Are google going to believe that some affiliate site about radiator covers from an Amazon affiliate is really going to get more +1's or "Likes" than that?
(Trick question - the answer is "No they fucking aren't")
Anyone with a scientific mindset knows that any conclusions extrapolated from a "massaed" or pre selected data set rather than a true random sample is at least something to be wary off - if not downright dangerous to draw conclusions from.
There was a very specific dataset used for this survey - hgh authority aged sites with extreme levels of pre-existing traffic.
If your site does not have that profile - then these results might well not apply to you.
But again - the fact that the first 7 lines on the chart are links of one type or another is pretty compelling even if regarding in purely macro analysis terms.
Great info. Thanks given.
Scritty
Firstly this is a "Rank Spearman" correlation of factors that are common to a very specific and select sub group of sites that are ALREADY POPULAR. The top sites for the top 10,000 search terms. Might seem like a lot of breadth there, but there is not. "Bank" Insurance" "Diet" "Car" "travel" "money" "mortgage" "website" "school" ... I could go on and on - and that would just be the shortest of short tails (one word) search terms add "weight loss" "payday loans" "life insurance" "foreign travel" and you can quadruple the single word terms and the 10,000 figure is gone pretty quick while never even touching the sort of long tail your average affilaite would even consider going for.
Then they are only looking at the BEST sites in these terms.
Tis is a fraction of the number the guys at SEOmetrics look at (16 million sites completely randomly chosen) as a study it is a factor of about 100 x smaller in terms of dataset searchmetrics and seometrics are two different teams however.
Ok - this is very important as it means two things.
Firstly - It does not sort out cause from effect. These are popular sites to begin with. It begs the question..
Do social links create popularity and a rise in SERPs and traffic potential.. or do already popular sites attract more social links and therefore the addage that "correlation does not always equal causation" should be applied or at least considered?
Secondly - one way or another - the top 7 in the list are links. Be they social or otherwise. A retweet is a link, a facebook like is a link a Google +1 is a link. Yes they are social links - but links all the same
A take away from this might be that this is not a random selection of sites - this test was carried out on a preselected group of already popular sites. The rules for aged authority sites that attract a 7 figure number of visitors per month has always been VERY different to small sites with reaches a fraction of that.
Overdoing social signals can be the kiss of death. The BBC's coverage of the birth of the Royal Baby last week garnered under 1000 Google+1's despite being read by 17 MILLION people in the first 48 hours. (sdo about one in 20,000 visitors "+1d" it). Facebook likes were a lot higher but still under 15,000 (so under 1 in 1000 people "Liked" it)
Are google going to believe that some affiliate site about radiator covers from an Amazon affiliate is really going to get more +1's or "Likes" than that?
(Trick question - the answer is "No they fucking aren't")
Anyone with a scientific mindset knows that any conclusions extrapolated from a "massaed" or pre selected data set rather than a true random sample is at least something to be wary off - if not downright dangerous to draw conclusions from.
There was a very specific dataset used for this survey - hgh authority aged sites with extreme levels of pre-existing traffic.
If your site does not have that profile - then these results might well not apply to you.
But again - the fact that the first 7 lines on the chart are links of one type or another is pretty compelling even if regarding in purely macro analysis terms.
Great info. Thanks given.
Scritty