I ordered about 25 Snapbacks/Beanies. They came in today. The seller said to me there 100% Authentic. How do i check for sure on the Snapbacks and Beanies? Before i list on ebay. Because they look real from what i see. Please someone give me some insight Thanks!
How do i know there Authentic?
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It didnt really help because I have 3 different Mitchell & Ness.hats and some hats have 8 rows of stitching and some only 6. Also how do i chek if a beanie is fake? There New ERA? also i have some New Era snapbacks? if there fake im gonna file a dispute as counterfeit and get my money back.
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I don't know to tell you exactly, I have to see what types do you have, there are lots of them and either way I'm not an expert in this, I used to sell them about 4-5 years ago, probably some things have changed since then... Better scroll youtube for more videos related to the one I posted earlier and if they are in fact fake do what you said you'll do.
Well isnt the sticker on the Mitchell & Ness not like a mirror? It looks really good inside. But if they are fake i can take pictures of the hats and i have saved the chat hisotry of the seller promising there Authentic so if there not i have enough to get my money back. How do i check with a beanie?
unclemike
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Before going chargeback happy you could ask the seller for a refund and ship the Snapbacks back to him?
yes i know but the shipping will cost alot of $ with tracking back.
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So in the end you want to keep the snapbacks for yourself + get the money back lol?! I don't know from where did you bought them but you'll have to ship the snapbacks back before getting the refund.
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I know as a drop shipper I would gladly help pay shipping cost than be chargeback and burned.
If that happens it is considered buyer fraud.
At this point my recommendation is to decide if the quality is good enough to sell?
If you cannot tell the difference then it is. And some guy working at the mall is not going to know what to say either.
He will probably say they are fake hoping you buy some of his. Everyone wants a competitors item to be cheaper or
not real. You cannot listen to those guys really.
If this was an LV Hang bag then you could verify the manufacture number. But it's a hat.
Second thing is if there is no way you can handle selling them then contact your supplier and discuss a refund and return
the items.
Often times buyers expect their one person show supplier to be like Wal Mart with service but Wal Mart will not give you
a refund with no item present or a receipt. Shame PayPal helps facilitate actions like this with its buyer first policies.
Cheers,
Unclemike
Ok Well i cant confirm there real or not? Do all real Hats also have that NHL Sticker on all hats? and beanies? Or no? Also I dont want to risk my ebay account if there fake. Coulld i possibly sell them on Kijiji? if im stuck with them?
Also my other question is it is ok to sell Plastic iphone cases with Soccer teams on the back or NHL teams on the back of the case? Or is that VERO?
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It does not matter if you can confirm their real or not. If you are going to have issues with VERO then you are
going to have those issues long before the product reaches a customer. Fact is the people your competing with are probably
not selling real snapbacks at all. Its not a high risk item, but it is not non-branded low risk either.
Anytime you sell some items on eBay your looking at some risk if they are branded. Just some brands actively flag
listings like "beats by dr. dre" and some do not.
I doubt your cases are certified by the NHL ect. So it is using a brand to sell items that are not legally registered.
You can still do it though and it's not a high risk type of issue.
Cheers,
Unclemike
First off, who did you get it from and how much did you pay? Those two things are the biggest indicators.
Next, you have to look for design flaws. People say "Oh, make sure it has a sticker, make sure it has a label" - this stuff means NOTHING. You think a company who isn't paying licensing fees is going to go online and find a company to replicate a sticker and they pay $120 USD for a roll of 1200 high quality stickers that increase the chances they can sell these things? When people make knock off stuff now a days, they don't just look at a picture of it. They buy the real thing, take it apart, make a pattern out of it and then develop an assembly line and order the materials. The only difference between a knock off and a genuine product is the quality used to manufacture the goods. If a company sews a bunch of crooked lines on a brim of a snap back - nobody would buy it. So a company that makes quality products destroy the product (like Prada, Versace, Armani, etc) or its sold in liquidation and even then the product isn't considered genuine because of its design flaws.
Don't get confused though with things like normal error stitching. This is how someone determines a luxury hang bag was made by a skilled person and when it was made by a machine. A machine will reproduce the same movement 99% identically as the movement before it. A human can not, even if they are extremely skilled but they can come pretty close.
Here's a sign something is fake. "Smuggled out of actual factory" - factories look at products like you look at dollar bills. Where you might see 1290 hats sitting in a big bin in the corner of a factory, they see $11,600 USD in cash. Kind of like drugs. Middle management keeps a keen eye on their works to impress upper management and to keep their jobs.
Next, you have to look for design flaws. People say "Oh, make sure it has a sticker, make sure it has a label" - this stuff means NOTHING. You think a company who isn't paying licensing fees is going to go online and find a company to replicate a sticker and they pay $120 USD for a roll of 1200 high quality stickers that increase the chances they can sell these things? When people make knock off stuff now a days, they don't just look at a picture of it. They buy the real thing, take it apart, make a pattern out of it and then develop an assembly line and order the materials. The only difference between a knock off and a genuine product is the quality used to manufacture the goods. If a company sews a bunch of crooked lines on a brim of a snap back - nobody would buy it. So a company that makes quality products destroy the product (like Prada, Versace, Armani, etc) or its sold in liquidation and even then the product isn't considered genuine because of its design flaws.
Don't get confused though with things like normal error stitching. This is how someone determines a luxury hang bag was made by a skilled person and when it was made by a machine. A machine will reproduce the same movement 99% identically as the movement before it. A human can not, even if they are extremely skilled but they can come pretty close.
Here's a sign something is fake. "Smuggled out of actual factory" - factories look at products like you look at dollar bills. Where you might see 1290 hats sitting in a big bin in the corner of a factory, they see $11,600 USD in cash. Kind of like drugs. Middle management keeps a keen eye on their works to impress upper management and to keep their jobs.