No Signature in BST Section Rule

[proxygo]

Some people are saying that you should not fear competition.

like i said lee, i dont fear my competition i even advert them in my
sig - i have no fear because im confident in what i do that there's room
on bhw for everyone, and hell if they wanna pay to be in my sig, doesn't
bother me 1 bit..

but..

would i want my competition posting in my sales threads to drop
there product there, not really its just common decency .

 

[BLIXX]

You guys selling in the BST section are literally paying for the thread, yes? If so, there is no argument: it's your space. When I buy TV air time I'm not shelling out that money to have my competitors commercial appear during that same 30 - 60 seconds. Before or after, yes; but purchased space is purchased space.


+1 for "asshamsters" however. I will be using this the remainder of the day, Subster. Please do let me know where to send the cheque.

 

[Leith]

like i said lee, i dont fear my competition i even advert them in my
sig - i have no fear because im confident in what i do that there's room
on bhw for everyone, and hell if they wanna pay to be in my sig, doesn't
bother me 1 bit..

but..

would i want my competition posting in my sales threads to drop
there product there, not really its just common decency .

Exactly. As someone mentioned above, it's just common respect / courtesy.

You guys selling in the BST section are literally paying for the thread, yes? If so, there is no argument: it's your space. When I buy TV air time I'm not shelling out that money to have my competitors commercial appear during that same 30 - 60 seconds. Before or after, yes; but purchased space is purchased space.

Agreed Blixx.

 

[extreme90]

I dont think, this seem's to be even an option, however you have all the rights to say, but in my point of view, i dont think it should happen at all!

 

[Leith]

I dont think, this seem's to be even an option, however you have all the rights to say, but in my point of view, i dont think it should happen at all!

Moderators and staff agree with it already, so I definitely think it's a likely option to be implemented.

Thanks for your say anyway. Good to have some mixed responses.

 

[Junkfood00]

Definitely a good idea. If I had a shop I wouldn't like it the visitors taping flyers on the walls. All those with the 'man up and compete' attitude, please sod off...

 

[JoshuaTreezz]

Solid idea, keeps the thread cleaner as well as the fact the person who started the thread paid to have it up so I would be a little pissed at a huge amount of signatures from competitors on a thread I paid for.. Looking forward to this BST section overhaul sounds exciting haha

 

[sputnik11]

Definitely a good idea. If I had a shop I wouldn't like it the visitors taping flyers on the walls. All those with the 'man up and compete' attitude, please sod off...

Xactly - typically the same ones that dont man up and create their own BST threads or even meaningful products to buy.

Comedy.

 

[toptoptop]

WTF... Aren't you confident enough to let your BST compete with a signature? It is the customers decision, and as highly frequent BST buyer I can tell you, that i did not buy one time an other BST because someone with a siglink posted in a BST.

100% agree.

 

[Leith]

100% agree.

If you bought a shop / advertising campaign for money.. would you want to have 10 other competitors promoting their service on something you have spent money on?

Unless you're a baller and don't mind wasting money like that.. I certainly don't.

 

[LakeForest]

I don't understand the issue.

You can have your sig anywhere else on the entire forum, except on someone else's BST.

Please, to those against this gesture of polite business, explain why you are against the idea instead of attacking someone's confidence or posting personal stories about what you've done or not done. The protest seems dishonest and shady at worst

 

[proxygo]

question is - is there a script addon they can use
to allow the bst holder maker to have a sig
but posters in that thread there sigs gone

 

[Leith]

question is - is there a script addon they can use
to allow the bst holder maker to have a sig
but posters in that thread there sigs gone

I don't see why a BST owner would want to promote their own service
on their own BST?

I vote for a complete removal of signatures in the BST section. There are
so many other sections where these members can drop their signatures.. so I don't
see why the BST section is causing a lot of debate.

 

[LakeForest]

BST creator might have other links in their signature, possibly to his other BSTs.

BST creator already paid the money, why not allow extra advertisement on their own thread?

As for implementation, removing signatures in some areas seems as difficult as dealing with paid user-levels. Doesn't seem like additional anything is needed. I've never run a forum to that degree to know for sure, so these might be dumb words I'm writing

 

[Deleted member 658642]

Now that you mention it, I have seen lots of examples of this kind. I mean some guys just mean goodwill and wish the OPs but then some do misuse the sig. Leave it to Leith to come up with a brilliant suggestion. Well done!

 

[beaglejuice]

I see you only suggested removing signature in BST. The problem with your suggestion is they have become savvy spammers and clutter all the other sections outside BST.

I don't see why a BST owner would want to promote their own service
on their own BST?

I vote for a complete removal of signatures in the BST section. There are
so many other sections where these members can drop their signatures.. so I don't
see why the BST section is causing a lot of debate.

 

[Blakester]

I see you only suggested removing signature in BST. The problem with your suggestion is they have become savvy spammers and clutter all the other sections outside BST.

so you re suggesting to keep all spammers in BST to keep public caregories clean? rape logic.

spammers will be spammers and quality members will be quality members. so if someone is to spam i prefer him to be out of anyones BST thread that actually has paid for.

if they spam the BST section they will spam other categories too no matter what. it wont be the restrictions fault they will just spam because thats what they do.

 

[Leith]

BST creator might have other links in their signature, possibly to his other BSTs.

BST creator already paid the money, why not allow extra advertisement on their own thread?

As for implementation, removing signatures in some areas seems as difficult as dealing with paid user-levels. Doesn't seem like additional anything is needed. I've never run a forum to that degree to know for sure, so these might be dumb words I'm writing

Okay, again, that was a bad idea from me and I take that back.

So a system where only the owner of the thread can post signatures on their own threads would be good.

And to completely remove others from putting on their signature should also be implemented.

I see you only suggested removing signature in BST. The problem with your suggestion is they have become savvy spammers and clutter all the other sections outside BST.

In my opinion, the BST is the most serious situation where this is happening. A BST owner pays for a thread and therefore should be free from getting competitor banners, signatures and all sorts on the thread.

 

[Furious George]

I agree that the signature is a perk of being a donor.

Having the right to sell exclusively in a BST thread without your competitor bumping in is a perk of paying BHW for a BST thread.

Your signature only shows up once in a thread anyway. After that first post, your signature is gone from the other posts in the thread.

I've looked at a lot of arguments on both sides of this in the thread... but when it comes down to it, why should someone be upset that their signature is removed in a BST thread if NOT to compete with that BST thread? It's not like censorship... it's like "don't bring outside beverages into the movie theater".

However.... BHW does display ads on the site, regardless of what section. Often times those paid ads are in competition with the BST thread.
Why should a paid signature have less priority over a paid ad?

My opinion - I can't imagine that it matters a whole lot to sales on a BST thread. Isn't it against the rules to advertise your service in another's BST thread? Surely a banner of height 90 pixels isn't killing your sales. I think if you disable signatures from BST threads, you should disable global ads as well.

I don't have a BST thread, and I don't often post in them.... I hope everyone reaches in amicable solution.

 

[Leith]

Why should a paid signature have less priority over a paid ad?

Maybe because a member is paying from their own pockets for a BST thread and
would expect to keep it clean from others coming in and hijacking it.

There are tons of paid ads on the main forum and that's a way for BHW to make money, and
I am not disagreeing with that.

But when someone purchases a BHW BST thread, they should be able to "own" that thread
and not have tons of people hijacking it with their signatures. I'd hate if if I spent money on
a TV advertisement and during the advertisement there were 10 other interruptions of
competitors services. It's just not right..

At the same time, removing this sig feature in BST threads has a lot more weight/benefits
than not removing it. The donors have tons of other places to place their signatures.

The BST isn't the only one.