Google Ban(Duplicated Content)

[HattRiC]

Would google ban me if I use articles from some of my competitors website (fairly old not brand new) or if I take articles from enzinearticles ?

 

[danailo]

Do not use duplicate content! Waste of time.

 

[acomoney]

They won't ban you, but they will penalize you in the search rankings for it.

 

[WrightWilliams]

Never use copyrighted content from your competitors OWN SITES unless you both like getting banned AND sued. Duh.

 

[HattRiC]

Alright so all I have to do is write my own articles.. okay

 

[steelballs]

It's a NO NO...

Original - Unique and keyword optimized content is the way to go...

 

[Techxan]

SteelBalls, you disappoint. Thought you knew better.

You can get in trouble with the law for using copyrighted content.

You can copy anything on the internet, and it will not incur a duplicate content penalty. That is not what duplicate content is.

You might get a poor quality penalty, but not a duplicate content penalty.
It will not get you banned, and it is not a waste of time. In fact if use it and give credit to the original site, it actually helps.

There are smarter things to do, (as steel says), but it is far from a no-no.

And it is not duplicate content. If it were, and Google banned such things, there would only be one copy of anything in the Internet.

News sites would be out of business.

 

[steelballs]

SteelBalls, you disappoint. Thought you knew better.

You can get in trouble with the law for using copyrighted content.

You can copy anything on the internet, and it will not incur a duplicate content penalty. That is not what duplicate content is.

You might get a poor quality penalty, but not a duplicate content penalty.
It will not get you banned, and it is not a waste of time. In fact if use it and give credit to the original site, it actually helps.

There are smarter things to do, (as steel says), but it is far from a no-no.

And it is not duplicate content. If it were, and Google banned such things, there would only be one copy of anything in the Internet.

News sites would be out of business.

I respect your comments but your reference is to attribution which is totally different element and acceptable practice - but there is way to do attribution hence leading news site know how that operates and so do others too...

But it is NOT blatant copy n paste...

 

[SmartMan]

SteelBalls, you disappoint. Thought you knew better.

You can get in trouble with the law for using copyrighted content.

You can copy anything on the internet, and it will not incur a duplicate content penalty. That is not what duplicate content is.

You might get a poor quality penalty, but not a duplicate content penalty.
It will not get you banned, and it is not a waste of time. In fact if use it and give credit to the original site, it actually helps.

There are smarter things to do, (as steel says), but it is far from a no-no.

And it is not duplicate content. If it were, and Google banned such things, there would only be one copy of anything in the Internet.

News sites would be out of business.

I appreciate your post. Love to see some interesting conversations rather than journey and lounge threads. At the same time, there's a lot of difference between news articles and ordinary sites.

The articles that you see on news pages/sites are called syndicated content and is totally different from duplicate content. Pages with duplicate contents definitely gets hit by PANDA Algorithm. If the OP took the articles from competitors/ezine and rewrites it, that's a different story. I'd like to hear more about your thoughts on why and how you say it as not duplicate content.

 

[omnipotent$]

You're not going to see good results by having duplicated content on your site. Do it once, do it right. Get some unique content on your sites.

 

[Techxan]

I appreciate your post. Love to see some interesting conversations rather than journey and lounge threads. At the same time, there's a lot of difference between news articles and ordinary sites.

The articles that you see on news pages/sites are called syndicated content and is totally different from duplicate content. Pages with duplicate contents definitely gets hit by PANDA Algorithm. If the OP took the articles from competitors/ezine and rewrites it, that's a different story. I'd like to hear more about your thoughts on why and how you say it as not duplicate content.

You are correct when you say that it is distributed content.

As far as SEO goes, duplicate content ONLY exists when the same content is presented in multiple places on the same website.

If you have copied content from anywhere and put in only on one page of your site, it is not duplicate content. It is syndicated, or distributed content.

Everyone knows that the more pages your site has, the better it is for SEO.

The penalty is designed to prevent people from simply duplicating a page, and adding new titles and desc,, and counting that as a content page for their site. (Make one page about SEO, copy it X times, change titles and descriptions, have the same content target "SEO", "search engine optimization", "optimize websites" "webnsite optimization', 'Website SEO", SEO for websites", ad nauseium., and end up with a 100 page website with exactly one page of content.

You could add 100 pages to your site for SEO purposes that essentially say the same thing, and get SEO juice from them.

It used to be a real problem, like building tiers is becoming today.. (IMO, building tiers of backlinks will be the death of backlinks influence in the algo in the near future.)

Since the penalty was introduced, the problem usually exists because of failing to forward the www (or non www) address to the other (in which case google will see two of each page.), or in e-commerce pages where colors and sizes create duplicate pages because all the rest of the content is the same (use canonization to stop this), or when WP screws you over because you do not have it set right, and creates duplicate URL's for the same page (You set your link structure to "...category/postname", then put your auction notice in the "auctions" category, and also in the "upcoming events" category, but forget to tell the search engines which is cannon. You end up up with two URL's pointing to the same page, .../auctions/postname, and .../upcoming events/posrtname)

#steelballs
Thanks, but I am not just talking about attribution here.

I just used the news sites as an example. You can take almost any piece of PLR, and do a search for a section of text and you will find hundreds, even thousands of websites with that content on them. Article Marketing, while having lost its luster, still allows you to use someone else's content on your website, without a penalty.

This very forum has many posts where people are claiming that someone used their content on a new site and the new site is outranking the site with the original content.

These conditions simply cannot exist if the duplicate content penalty like you describe existed.

I am not going to say that this content is always quality, or that you should not strive for both originality and quality, but you do not incur a penalty for using someone else's
content.

Unless, of course, they sue.

 

[SEO_Alchemy]

The articles that you see on news pages/sites are called syndicated content and is totally different from duplicate content.

And what exactly would those differences be? Some magical mark-up language that tells google one from the other? Or is it just source attribution? What about blog commentators that just post whole trending stories and comment on them and have high ranking blogs when 50% of the content is actually just copy and pasted? Review sites that have product descriptions directly quoted from the manufacturer and then go on to review in their own words?

There's a very big difference between not being ranked highly, and being penalized.

Panda is very very good at spotting spun content, that's trying to trick it into looking original. Get a few flags there, and you will get a nice penalty for trying. Copied gets much more tricky. Apparently only the original source gets indexed right? B.S. you see the same articles indexed all over the place. Hell, just submit the same article to a few dozen directories, you'll see the EXACT SAME INDEXED all over google, and they Stick! Not supposed to happen, but it does.

Granted news sites can get away with a lot, due to domain authority, the millions of links they already have, brand exposure, all the traffic they get via ads, etc. etc etc, and for your own personal sites, you will be doing yourself a huge favor by going with 100% unique original, but the syndicated is not copied argument is a little thin for my taste. Both work because in essence they are the same thing.

 

[SEO_Alchemy]

Lol, looks like Techxan beat me to the punch

I think we're on the same page there friend.

 

[SmartMan]

You are correct when you say that it is distributed content.

As far as SEO goes, duplicate content ONLY exists when the same content is presented in multiple places on the same website.

If you have copied content from anywhere and put in only on one page of your site, it is not duplicate content. It is syndicated, or distributed content.

Everyone knows that the more pages you site has, the better it is for SEO.

The penalty is designed to prevent people from simply duplicating a page, and adding new titles and desc,, and counting that as a content page for their site.

Otherwise you could add 100 pages to your site for SEO purposes that essentially say the same thing, and get SEO juice from them. It used to be a real problem.

Since the penalty was introduced, the problem usually exists because of failing to forward the www (or non www) address to the other (in which case google will see two of each page.), or in e-commerce pages where colors and sizes create duplicate pages because all the rest of the content is the same (use canonization to stop this), or when WP screws you over because you do not have it set right, and creates duplicate URL's for the same page (You set your link structure to "...category/postname", then put your auction notice in the "auctions" category, and also in the "upcoming events" category, but forget to tell the search engines which is cannon. You end up up with two URL's pointing to the same page, .../auctions/postname, and .../upcoming events/posrtname)

#steelballs

I just used the news sites as an example. You can take almost any piece of PLR, and do a search for a section of text and you will find hundreds, even thousands of websites with that content on them. Article Marketing, while having lost its luster, still allows you to use someone else's content on your website, without a penalty.

This very forum has many posts where people are claiming that someone used their content on a new site and the new site is outranking the site with the original content.

These conditions simply cannot exist if the duplicate content penalty like you describe existed.

I am not going to say that this content is always quality, or that you should not strive for both originality and quality, but you do not incur a penalty for using someone else's content.

And what exactly would those differences be? Some magical mark-up language that tells google one from the other? Or is it just source attribution? What about blog commentators that just post whole trending stories and comment on them and have high ranking blogs when 50% of the content is actually just copy and pasted? Review sites that have product descriptions directly quoted from the manufacturer and then go on to review in their own words?

There's a very big difference between not being ranked highly, and being penalized. Panda is very very good at spotting spun content, that's trying to trick it into looking original. Get a few flags there, and you will get a nice penalty for trying. Copied gets much more tricky. Apparently only the original source gets indexed right? B.S. you see the same articles indexed all over the place. Hell, just submit the same article to a few dozen directories, you'll see the EXACT SAME INDEXED all over google, and they Stick! Not supposed to happen, but it does.

Granted news sites can get away with a lot, due to domain authority, the millions of links they already have, brand exposure, all the traffic they get via ads, etc. etc etc, and for your own personal sites, you will be doing yourself a huge favor by going with 100% unique original, but the syndicated is not copied argument is a little thin for my taste.

SEO_Alchemy, It's not some magical language but the Google news's quality and technical guidelines is what differentiates a news site vs a blogger's site.

For example, There's no way for a site to get listed under Google News if it doesn't have a minimum of 3 digits in a URL. From what I've seen most of the bloggers just use %postname% as permalink.

Source : http://support.google.com/news/publisher/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=40787&topic=2484652&ctx=topic

Thanks to both of you for taking time to share your insights.

 

[Techxan]

 

[SEO_Alchemy]

 

[capripio]

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