Google Update Again..?
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ivanpenev
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Same here, bh sites are not affected. Google set the rules of their own game, but they don't follow them..
Rua999
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Screaming?! Who's screaming?! Too cool for school for me..
mohamed194
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my site is back!
danhoff
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alaltaierii
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mohamed194
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no, I have not changed anything!
abyssal_miss
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Yup, all my blackhat sites are stronger then ever, gaining ranking for more of my long tail keywords too, sitting in #1 for all my main keywords. Anything with spam essentially. Sape's up top too.
My white-hat sites... lmfao, fell off the charts or below 100. Google should promote this new guy that came up with the concept for this.
Noticed in other niches a bunch of keyword stuffed, purely blackhat garbage sitting in top spots or flooding the first page.
Apparently anything with focused tier 1's gets penalized?
So the moral of the story. more turn and burn pages that you blast with scrapebox and limited keyword lists. But that's just speculation, so don't take my word for it.
What it seems to be (to me) is that with all the recent updates over the past year or two, google has been trying to fight black-hat with the keyword diversification, naked and generic ratios, etc. And what they've realized is that when they change the algo, we adapt in the most 'logical' way to try and overcome, so they're probably trying to think outside of the box and be 'irrational' in the eyes of the blackhat world. So that when we try to get a foot in the door on this latest one, we'll try and fail so miserably because we continue to move forward in the most linear way that we're all used to.
To be honest, who really knows? Only the adderall addicted programmers at google.
Every update for the past year or so, i've watched my sites completely drop off like all of yours, not just drop a few ranks. but completely fall out, thinking I was sandboxed, etc. A few weeks later, I watch it return back to somewhere on page one or two... I spend a few weeks reading, and I figure it out with the rest of you guys. Fairly simple.
Let google release their live bullshit and adapt your methods. Early indications point to them focusing on anything that's linear in regards to your top tiers, etc.
do your keyword research on the top sites and figure out what they're doing. Revert your methods back to pre-penguin bullshit if you have to, because that's what it's starting to look like. Anyone with a keyword profile with a ton of 'click here's' and junk anchor keyword lists might be penalized because they KNOW that, that's what we were using to overcome their last algo's.
Think about it, what can they really do that they haven't already done without chopping off an entire limb to save the infection that's spreading on their body? (black hat seo's are the infection to them.)
So, they're pretty much just hacking away with a rusty jig saw. Spraying antiseptic on it.
Take a look at multiple niches and find out if the keyword profiles for the top few sites contain a number of click here anchors, naked anchors, etc.
They've probably just narrowed the % that's acceptable, because people were going overboard and spamming a larger amount then what looks natural on a real website.
Anyways, HI MATT CUTTS and your team. I know you're reading.
What a beautiful place to have your voice heard by the google webspam team. They won't respond or even bother reading your messages on their webmasters tools, but if you post a tangent here. You're more then going to be seen by them.
I love you! Maybe give me a job working for you guys once all my sites stop making money? Kthnxbye.
ivanpenev
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Well I told you it is going to be back
But it can disappear again, normal for a dance.abyssal_miss
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Hmm, one last thing. I just refreshed the search for my one of the keywords I watch when the algo changes. Looks like the top spots are now public forum sites that have little to no backlinking at all, except for the generic facebook shares and such that happen naturally. Their profiles on ahrefs or majestic are pretty slim, maybe a few reffering domains.
What it seems to be is a huge amount of interlinking on the actual sites. Many titles optimized on their own pages.
It's coming up with yahoo answers (never seen this anywhere in this niche near top before) topix, voy, craigslist, and some other small pages that have limited seo work done behind them besides what's on the page.
Guess they're floating between giving ANYTHING with any sort of SEO the boot, and some sort of hyper focused panda mutant.
What it seems to be is a huge amount of interlinking on the actual sites. Many titles optimized on their own pages.
It's coming up with yahoo answers (never seen this anywhere in this niche near top before) topix, voy, craigslist, and some other small pages that have limited seo work done behind them besides what's on the page.
Guess they're floating between giving ANYTHING with any sort of SEO the boot, and some sort of hyper focused panda mutant.
rafark
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Congrats!
marlin
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This is Panda. Everyone has to remember that Google uses Machine Learning now which is a weaker for of A.I. From what I have seen it was not link based. Google has recently stated that they do over 50 manual reviews and hour on average. Panda gets smarter and smarter each time as they gather more data, so this will be a trend for years to come.
abyssal_miss
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^affirmative.
islandman1010
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I see exactly the same. I was number 2/3 behind a 2006 yahoo answers which I had never managed to overtake. Now I have bombed out the rankings and just returned with an inner page and not the home page at 23. However the top 10 spots are now all information sites. There is now wikipedia, youtube videos, webmd, howstuffworks and 3 results for mayoclinic. The no 1 spot is no a howstuffworks site. What I notice on all of these other sites is they have google ads on them. Maybe there is a something in that. My site has no google ads at all.
danhoff
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parasitus84
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Not mine...
maecenas23
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Guys, hit or not, remember to continue working