Need Your Help Getting Refund From This Scammer

[fmOzilla]

No . . your memory is not correct. He is a regular member.

"Wiz:

ah memory dump any way sorry for your lost op

 

[ibmjango]

is paypal refund period is over ? or did you paid through wire transfer ?
paypal allow 45 days to file refund..so if you are covered in this period just go for refund through paypal, or if you have paid through credit card then file a chargeback you will get your money back.
Jango

 

[kvmcable]

I'm curious how much the OP paid the accused in this JV? According to the OP they were to split the money 50/50 and the OP claims they made $700 in just one day. Was there a clause in the JV that said if the OP didn't get the money out of Adsense then he didn't owe the JV money? Seems the OP owes at least $350 to his JV partner by his own admission.

 

[tactics084]

is paypal refund period is over ? or did you paid through wire transfer ?
paypal allow 45 days to file refund..so if you are covered in this period just go for refund through paypal, or if you have paid through credit card then file a chargeback you will get your money back.
Jango

I didn't pay via PayPal but with Chase Bank so I can't file a dispute unless it was a fraud transaction.

I'm curious how much the OP paid the accused in this JV? According to the OP they were to split the money 50/50 and the OP claims they made $700 in just one day. Was there a clause in the JV that said if the OP didn't get the money out of Adsense then he didn't owe the JV money? Seems the OP owes at least $350 to his JV partner by his own admission.

Monkeh got my account banned within the first month, which means I never got paid from the parking company so I don't owe him anything.

 

[ibmjango]

I didn't pay via PayPal but with Chase Bank so I can't file a dispute unless it was a fraud transaction.



Monkeh got my account banned within the first month, which means I never got paid from the parking company so I don't owe him anything.

paying through bank was bad decision, making 100-300 dollars a day in this business is easy for those people who really knows thier stuff and they are expert in how to handle this game... i m in this business since few months, and i got paid several time so sending some inside information through pm..hope it will help you.
Jango.

 

[tactics084]

paying through bank was bad decision, making 100-300 dollars a day in this business is easy for those people who really knows thier stuff and they are expert in how to handle this game... i m in this business since few months, and i got paid several time so sending some inside information through pm..hope it will help you.
Jango.

Thanks, I'll look forward to your pm.

And regarding payment through bank, yeah, I wanted to use paypal but of course he didn't accept it.

 

[Monkehx]

Sorry for the wait. My grandma has passed away and we're still making preparations. While I have received your messages they were at a bad time. I took it as a slap to the face because I did everything in my power and you just gave up. I pushed you to sign up at another parking company and you replied with a refund. Is the refund rightfully yours. It most absolutely is. Do you deserve it? No. The reason being is because you've tarnished my reputation on bhw. Do I deserve it? Yes. Because I ignored you out of anger, frustration, and human emotions that make us all weak at one point in our lives. What you conveniently failed to mention was, that the reason you got banned was because a previous provider, Juju had your CTR at ridiculously high rates. I frankly couldn't salvage something that was hitting a dead end. What I did do though was care. I emailed YOU not out of gain but out of pity. I know what it's like losing an account, and you had proven to me how much you cared by tweaking any little thing that I asked for. I do admire that. The real question was I going to refund you the money? I wasn't. It's callous I know, but it was so long ago when I received it I took it as not only as your loss but mine when we didn't profit nothing. Cruetly breeds cruelty, I'll admit I've been scammed before. It's a shame I was going to do the same but it's the truth. Good for you for not backing down because what I do value is reputation and no one finding out would've meant you would have never received your $200. I've dealt with many people, some are still my partners now and I always do my 50/50, others I've even taught them the method out of goodwill in hopes they'll teach me a thing or two down the road. I'm sorry for potentially tarnishing BHW's reputation, for causing frustration to Tactics and more importantly causing arguments between members. In my humble opinion I'm far from a scumbag and I know many people that would agree. Tactics don't say anymore because it will lead to further discussion that I don't want to be a part of.

You'll be receiving your refund on 2/15/15. I would do it sooner but frankly, my grandma is more important and the money is going towards her burial.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Maria+Del+Refugio+Ramirez+obituary

Mod, if you want to temporarily ban it will suffice.

Thank you.

 

[WizGizmo]

@ Monkehx:

I am going to temp ban you for 3 weeks, which means that when the ban
expires, it will be somewhere near the time that you have promised to
refund the money. Thereafter, if you have not made restitution by Feb
16, 2012, your BHW account will be terminated.

Thank you for coming forward. Let's hope you are a man of your word . . .

"Wiz"

 

[tactics084]

I?m sorry for your loss. If I had known about the difficult time you went through I would have waited.

However, I have emailed you to return the funds to me on 12/27 and since then you never replied to my email once (even now).

?...you've tarnished my reputation on bhw.?

Sadly, the one who tarnished your reputation here is yourself. Proxygo sent you a link to this thread an hour after I posted, which if you had replied back then, we could have settled to have this thread removed, thus, minimizing your exposure on the shit list and keeping your reputation. Another way how you could have avoided this situation is if you devoted 30 seconds of your life to reply back to one of my messages since you?ve been online almost every day.

?I pushed you to sign up at another parking company and you replied with a refund.?

I already signed up to one parking company you told me to get (the one that made $4/day) yet your traffic didn?t work and even ended it without letting me know. And then you told me to get another one so we can ?test? with again. As I mentioned, I didn?t want to keep testing your traffic because the odds of finding a parking company that works with your traffic is slim.

?What you conveniently failed to mention was, that the reason you got banned was because a previous provider, Juju had your CTR at ridiculously high rates.?

If what you said is true, my account would have been toast well before I switched services to you. And again, your traffic brought CTR that were above 100% on most of the domains, made $700 in one day (which juju NEVER did), and the TQ score dropped to a 5.5 from a 7. This happened while you were handling my account, which makes me believe your traffic source is the reason my account got hammered but I am not blaming you for that because I was prepared it was going to happen.

?The real question was I going to refund you the money? I wasn't. It's callous I know, but it was so long ago when I received it I took it as not only as your loss but mine when we didn't profit nothing.?

So you just admitted that you?re a thief. And I don?t understand when you say ?not only as your loss but mine? because I?ve paid you 100% of the traffic fees upfront so you really didn?t lose anything except for your time.

?Good for you for not backing down because what I do value is reputation and no one finding out would've meant you would have never received your $200.?

Exactly why I was ?forced? to make this thread.

?You'll be receiving your refund on 2/15/15.?

I hope you meant 2013 instead of 2015 because that?ll be a cruel joke if it is.

 

[tactics084]

@ Monkehx:

I am going to temp ban you for 3 weeks, which means that when the ban
expires, it will be somewhere near the time that you have promised to
refund the money. Thereafter, if you have not made restitution by Feb
16, 2012, your BHW account will be terminated.

Thank you for coming forward. Let's hope you are a man of your word . . .

"Wiz"

Thank you Wiz and everyone here that contributed. I promise to keep you guys updated and will post if I receive the funds from monkeh or not.

Monkeh, again I grieve for your loss as I've lost both of grandmother's. I regret that we couldn't settle this more professionally and hope you can prove that you can be trusted.

Have a great day everyone.

 

[AdFicient]

Scammer really sucks! I am also a victim of scammers. I don't want it to happen again.

 

[proxygo]

monkey - sorry for your loss.
at Christmas on my birthday i lost my mother
as a seller i took time to contact all my subscribers to say my
service would be limited for about a month till January 2013.
i had a house to clear - a funeral to arrange - a birthday ruined
and a Christmas i wont forget, but every few days i kept all my
600 subscribers informed and upto date when ide be back.

because when some one pays me money regardless of what im
doing its the decent thing to let them no, not ignore them because
as a seller if ide said nothing, it ruins my service rep an when thats
gone you have nothing. again sorry for your loss

courtesy to your customers goes along way

 

[geomuss]

Sorry for the wait. My grandma has passed away and we're still making preparations. While I have received your messages they were at a bad time. I took it as a slap to the face because I did everything in my power and you just gave up. I pushed you to sign up at another parking company and you replied with a refund. Is the refund rightfully yours. It most absolutely is. Do you deserve it? No. The reason being is because you've tarnished my reputation on bhw. Do I deserve it? Yes. Because I ignored you out of anger, frustration, and human emotions that make us all weak at one point in our lives. What you conveniently failed to mention was, that the reason you got banned was because a previous provider, Juju had your CTR at ridiculously high rates. I frankly couldn't salvage something that was hitting a dead end. What I did do though was care. I emailed YOU not out of gain but out of pity. I know what it's like losing an account, and you had proven to me how much you cared by tweaking any little thing that I asked for. I do admire that. The real question was I going to refund you the money? I wasn't. It's callous I know, but it was so long ago when I received it I took it as not only as your loss but mine when we didn't profit nothing. Cruetly breeds cruelty, I'll admit I've been scammed before. It's a shame I was going to do the same but it's the truth. Good for you for not backing down because what I do value is reputation and no one finding out would've meant you would have never received your $200. I've dealt with many people, some are still my partners now and I always do my 50/50, others I've even taught them the method out of goodwill in hopes they'll teach me a thing or two down the road. I'm sorry for potentially tarnishing BHW's reputation, for causing frustration to Tactics and more importantly causing arguments between members. In my humble opinion I'm far from a scumbag and I know many people that would agree. Tactics don't say anymore because it will lead to further discussion that I don't want to be a part of.

You'll be receiving your refund on 2/15/15. I would do it sooner but frankly, my grandma is more important and the money is going towards her burial.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Maria+Del+Refugio+Ramirez+obituary

Mod, if you want to temporarily ban it will suffice.

Thank you.

Am I reading his post correctly because if I am he is basically saying:

1. He is not giving the OP his money back
2. He has been scammed before and its the OPs turn to be scammed
3. Basically if he never raised a shit list thread he was never going to pay him and still is not.
4. Oh and he has promised to pay in 2015

either I am lost in transaltion or Monkeh is taking the piss

 

[Jackmitch]

monkey - sorry for your loss.
at Christmas on my birthday i lost my mother
as a seller i took time to contact all my subscribers to say my
service would be limited for about a month till January 2013.
i had a house to clear - a funeral to arrange - a birthday ruined
and a Christmas i wont forget, but every few days i kept all my
600 subscribers informed and upto date when ide be back.

because when some one pays me money regardless of what im
doing its the decent thing to let them no, not ignore them because
as a seller if ide said nothing, it ruins my service rep an when thats
gone you have nothing. again sorry for your loss

courtesy to your customers goes along way

I don't meant to needlessly bump this thread but I just couldn't help but say "Nobody could have said it better than this" I totally agree with this sentiment.

 

[WizGizmo]

@tactics084:

Well, it looks like "monkehx" did not keep his end of
the deal. Therefore, I have permanently banned him.

Sorry you had a bad experience. Next time you are in
need of a reliable service, see if you can find someone
from BHW who has a good track record of satisfactory
dealings with other members. I realize that it doesn't
solve this situation, but I just thought you might want
to keep that in mind for the future.

Cheers! - "Wiz"

 

[tactics084]

Thanks Wiz and everyone here for all your support.

Sadly monkeh did not keep his word. In fact, he has NEVER even cared to send me a single email after all this time. His main account is banned (thankfully), but I know he uses VPN so he could easily create another account here if he wanted to so I warn everyone to be cautious of this scammer.

 

[kvmcable]

Looks like justice was served to both members participating in this JV for click fraud. @OP you can take off the robe now; you're hardly a Saint here. JMHO

 

[WizGizmo]

This thread is now officially closed.

"Wiz"