The Secret Admirer Method $$$

[mentalist]

Love the method very clever. Just read the entire thread (took ages but worth it) but I'm still hung up on one aspect. Everyone is spending 90% of the time talking about the E-mail harvesting aspect and hardly anyone is talking about the fact that these are not going to (or very, very rarely) going to convert in to sales for the company.

Sounds like a good way to get your account shitcanned.

Pay to free sign up ratios are the problem here. Also there is the risk of complaints but this is BH so that's a risk that has to be managed.

So, anyone got any advice or experience with this rather large elephant in the room?

Either way, massive props to Premiumsource for an outstanding method.

 

[unknownn]

thats a nice idea .In some countries in europe they found the best way how to make woman join at adultsites.They send them emails where stays that they saw some pictures with here cheating on her husband and that this pictures are in the memberarea of xxxxx .Most woman were so afraid they paid the sign up fee without thinking about it just to check if there are really pictures about here (looks like many woman are cheating).But at this method you have to be carefully cause in some countries it came on TV.Information about the woman they get from social network sites where people like to show pictures about themselfs and also info if they are married or not.

 

[mrkrabs1]

If anyone has this automated, contact me. I have more than a millions us email addys. We could do a trade! Hit me up

 

[javon11409]

I made $1300 in 12 days with mtree using this method. But, now they converted the program to revshare. Anyone know of a another good program to use with this method?

 

[notoriouskim]

^Thats a nice income, were you doing everything by hand? And are they still paying you the $1300 or did it all get converted??

I have a coder working on a program to automate this for me and hopefully it will be done in a couple of days.

 

[nooners]

Hehe does anyone know a more automated way of making these ecards send to multiple people?

Doing them individually when you have 100+ emails is a pain!

 

[gorancro]

I haven't seen any site's that let you copy paste e-mails or upload a text file of emails.

 

[jimbobo2779]

If I was to try this on a list of 56K DHL customers that I have would this be considered a high level of SPAM and get me in trouble with the po po?

 

[alleballe]

As someone said. I love this unique, original posts. Unique and good. Thanks!!

 

[mentalist]

Love the method very clever. Just read the entire thread (took ages but worth it) but I'm still hung up on one aspect. Everyone is spending 90% of the time talking about the E-mail harvesting aspect and hardly anyone is talking about the fact that these are not going to (or very, very rarely) going to convert in to sales for the company.

Sounds like a good way to get your account shitcanned.

Pay to free sign up ratios are the problem here. Also there is the risk of complaints but this is BH so that's a risk that has to be managed.

So, anyone got any advice or experience with this rather large elephant in the room?

Either way, massive props to Premiumsource for an outstanding method.

Anyone?

 

[WickednDivine]

No one seems to want to address the issue of non revenue generating leads. here is my theoretical solution. You have to make a small investment, but it might be worth it.

Most of these dating sites allow free profiles to browse all the profiles, but will not allow them to view full pictures, or communicate with members. To do that, you usually need to sign up for the monthly subscription.

So, why not spend $30/month and actually sign up on one of these dating sites? Create a fake profile that matches your craigslist ad. Your potential "john" will join and create a free profile and soon realize he can see you really exist on the site, but he cannot communicate with you there.

here is where you can persuade him to signup for the monthly service to continue talking/flirting with you. Even after they convert, you can still continue to lead them on for a few weeks before you start ignoring them. By this time, "john" has probably browsed the other profiles and started finding other cute girls to solicit.

You win, the dating site wins, and who knows, maybe "john" will even win.

doing this, you could even sign up for revshare dating offers which pay $25-30/sale.

**Disclaimer** Fully theoretical

 

[plouyd]

No one seems to want to address the issue of non revenue generating leads. here is my theoretical solution. You have to make a small investment, but it might be worth it.

Most of these dating sites allow free profiles to browse all the profiles, but will not allow them to view full pictures, or communicate with members. To do that, you usually need to sign up for the monthly subscription.

So, why not spend $30/month and actually sign up on one of these dating sites? Create a fake profile that matches your craigslist ad. Your potential "john" will join and create a free profile and soon realize he can see you really exist on the site, but he cannot communicate with you there.

here is where you can persuade him to signup for the monthly service to continue talking/flirting with you. Even after they convert, you can still continue to lead them on for a few weeks before you start ignoring them. By this time, "john" has probably browsed the other profiles and started finding other cute girls to solicit.

You win, the dating site wins, and who knows, maybe "john" will even win.

doing this, you could even sign up for revshare dating offers which pay $25-30/sale.

**Disclaimer** Fully theoretical

i've thought about doing this myself for a long time.. or sign up and find a bunch of girls who ARE on there (the fake ones who are online all the time) my friend had an AFF account.. too bad i didnt ask for a list..

 

[andy5544]

hi , sounds like a great plan ,
how do you get your affiliate link on the message without giving the game away ? sorry for basic stupid question but i'm new to this.... and just trying to earn some pennies to stop my house being reposessed . thanks , andy

 

[leonidt]

how do you get your affiliate link on the message without giving the game away ?

Use tinyurl or a .co.cc domain if you're on the cheap. Buy a general-sounding domain if you've got a few bucks.

 

[dannyhw]

Yeah this is spam. It's really a very very old technique. Back in the day we'd take any site that could generate an e-mail and basically do exactly this. We all had mailing software that we could just add new send method plugins to because the sites would catch on pretty quick, but I was personally sending out at least 500,000 a day.

As far as the legal side, here's the deal. Use proxies and you're cool with your ISP. Make sure they're blind proxies. Lots of proxies send your IP in the headers. No good. If someone really, really wants to pursue you, they could subpoena your affiliate program for your info. The programs really don't care about spam as long as they think you're bringing in enough cash to make the heat worth it. They might even contact you to let you know it's cool and up your rates. If they get subpoenad though, covering your ass isn't going to be worth it anymore. I knew some guys who made millions but ended up in club fed.

 

[leonidt]

...something about spam and crime...

If you're in a country where "spam" is recognized as a crime, then don't do it. Hire someone from a "spam" friendly country to do it. Simple.

 

[dannyhw]

If you're in a country where "spam" is recognized as a crime, then don't do it. Hire someone from a "spam" friendly country to do it. Simple.

As long as you can launder the money you should be fine. Just need someone you can trust to accept your payment and get the money back into the USA. Not always easily done.

 

[leonidt]

What are you talking about? YOU pay THEM, for the service of sending out massive email lists. Like this;

You-"Hey, I need someone to spam this list of 8million emails"
Spammer-"K yeah, Ill do it for $500"
You-"k, here ya go"
Spammer-"k, done"
You-"sweet, k tnx bai"

Why are you making everything sound so complicated?

 

[dannyhw]

Mailing from the USA is no problem. The problem is that if you want to promote an affiliate site, your link code is in there and all the feds need to do to catch you is take your affiliate ID and subpoena the network to get your info.

I was a career spammer from 99-04. Most of my crew never got caught, a few ended up in federal prisons. It all depends on whether or not they decide to make an example of you.

 

[leonidt]

1) Affiliate links don't mean shit. The person doing the mailing gets charged, not the person who's affiliate link is in there. If the person mailing is in a country that does not recognize "spam" as a crime, you're good.

2) I call bullshit on your "spam career" and your "crew". You wouldn't go to a Fed Pen for that anyways, you'd go to state pen. I've done a little time in the US myself, you're bullshitting the wrong person guy.