Permanently Closed Marketplace Sales Thread

[sespot]

Don't order from this guy, he is a crook! He will get your site crashed with google, when I ordered it took him almost 3 weeks to start the job, then took another 2 weeks to get a report, so total 5 weeks to get a report.

Then right after I got the report the very next day my top ranking site of over 2 years went from first page 4th spot and first page 7th spot to, 298 and 184, then I told him about it and he said he would fix it he did more work and then it made it worse went to 356 and over 400, then he kept working and now both are gone....

Keep in mind no other seo was done but his seo, his seo link building is 100% solely at fault. So if you have a lng standing top ranking site stay away from him, he takes forever to respond to you and flat out tells you he won't refund...

BEAWARE, He also has this same rep on the other forum... Its too bad he is like this....

Even his filipino worker takes for ever to respond...

 

[sespot]

Keep in mind I ordered over 3 months ago, and even if your rankings do good at first they will not last but they will take a worst huge dive after a little while... so stay away..

 

[topobudiarto]

Stupid, sespot have SEO knowledge is low... Felt himself too clever :fencing::breakpc1:
Of course, it's Fighting Google Daily! :nemoflow:

 

[DarkDemon]

Remarks posted by sespot are false and fabricated - anyone can "claim/say" anything but that's far from the truth. It's very clear that the intention of this is to sabotage this sales thread and we have reported it. We will counter it but will await the response of BHW mods first.

We are 10 pages down the Rank Showdown thread; if we are what sespot claim to be, we will not survive on BHW.

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[sespot]

Dean don't lie! Shaw I post all your emails to me? Where you admitted on 10-10-12 that your service has caused this to happen and that you would do what you could to fix it... So how is it false on what I am saying.

You can report me all you want, I do not know how a bad review counts as something not allowed on BHW..

I am speaking what the true outcome was, Your service might be OK for new sites but not for top ranking aged sites.

It is my fault for trusting anyone for one of my main sites link building. OH well others don't say you were not warned!

 

[DarkDemon]

sespot - prove the following which you claimed above, with solid genuine screenshot evidence:

1) The fact that we delivered the report 5 weeks later from the date of order. You can post the date it was ordered, date Update 1 was sent and date the final report was sent for everyone to know.

2) The fact that your ranks fell right after we delivered the report.

3) The fact that your website was ranking #4 for either of two keywords as of the date we delivered the report; or let me make it even easier for you; prove that you were ranking #4 for either of two keywords a week before or after the package was delivered.

4) The fact/point where I "admitted" Rank Showdown caused this. (We went beyond our limits and did an overwhelming amount of work because you literally "cried" over the issue and that was on pure intention to help you out; again post exactly what I've said - ideally with screenshot for everyone to know. A lesson well learned by us for trying to help people out for free where there was no fault by us; we aren't afraid to face negative remarks by any means, but we cannot stand fabrications/lies and false accusations.)

 

[sespot]

Ok here is some proof, your a liar!

Order 9-26-12 : Sent you 2 emails to confirm the the order did not get a reply back until 10 days later 10-6-12
10-14-12 : You claim that the order is complete, see attached screen shot I was ranking number one before you did the work, but always steady at 4th-5th no less for the past 18 months.



Your the lair

It is very clear that only after I ordered your service my rankings crashed!

And don't say it is from the panda update in oct, because that did not happen until 17-th to 22nd of oct, my rankings crashed well before that...

Your blind if you still can't see from the screenshot that it is from your direct service....... But if you want to keep on putting the blame elsewhere then thats fine...

 

[freefly]

Just ordered Champion Package:

Transaction ID XXXXXXXA3113713J

 

[bobred]

Ok here is some proof, your a liar!

Order 9-26-12 : Sent you 2 emails to confirm the the order did not get a reply back until 10 days later 10-6-12
10-14-12 : You claim that the order is complete, see attached screen shot I was ranking number one before you did the work, but always steady at 4th-5th no less for the past 18 months.

View attachment 21435

Your the lair

It is very clear that only after I ordered your service my rankings crashed!

And don't say it is from the panda update in oct, because that did not happen until 17-th to 22nd of oct, my rankings crashed well before that...

Your blind if you still can't see from the screenshot that it is from your direct service....... But if you want to keep on putting the blame elsewhere then thats fine...

Whilst i can't see exact dates on the screenshot it appears to be around the 27th of Sep that things started going downhill? Considering there was both the EMD update and a panda refresh on that date, as well as a penguin refresh and a page layout update just a week later i would suggest there lays your problem(s). There was no panda update between the 17th and 22nd of oct.

 

[sespot]

Whilst i can't see exact dates on the screenshot it appears to be around the 27th of Sep that things started going downhill? Considering there was both the EMD update and a panda refresh on that date, as well as a penguin refresh and a page layout update just a week later i would suggest there lays your problem(s). There was no panda update between the 17th and 22nd of oct.

No if you look at the screenshot it does show round about dates, no clue where your getting the 27th of sept from, but the dots are the movement, and Ive been tracking it very close, I dropped around the 13th of OCT... With those updates being even around 27th or even a week later, My site would not be still ranking at the top then drop one week after all the updates, not very likley..

Dean even said he removed all the links he created to get my rankings back, so what am I paying for if he removed all them?

Also he stated he removed all the links and my rankings still did not come back so that is how he knew the drop was not from his service, well that is insane, if anyone thinks you can just remove the damage you already did and then google will re-rank you, your a bit crazy. The damage has already been done...... its that simple..


Bottom line is he screwed me 2 times, 1 by getting my site rankings crashed, then removing all his links he built and left me with bad rankings, no links, and lost money to me that is getting screwed every way poss yet BIG DEAN thinks this is OK... Karma is a Bit@h

 

[chowner]

won't be ordering again. very disappointed with results, Site showed no movement for low competition keywords.

 

[DarkDemon]

won't be ordering again. very disappointed with results, Site showed no movement for low competition keywords.

Sorry but you have targeted 12 different keywords and 4 different URLs in our lowest package - Beginner (whereas we've suggested (on package 1's image) 1 URL and 1 keyword (2 max in any case) for visible rank improvements). It's hard for you to expect rank improvements this way as the package gets diluted significantly. As for the competition, the majority of them are highly competitive terms, not low competition.

As for sespot, my response is on the way; stay tuned folks!

 

[ceosam]

I was really looking forward to ordering this but after sespot's review I'm wondering if I should. DarkDemon can you confirm if sespot is right or lying? I have been seeing great reviews from everyone else except him.

 

[DarkDemon]

Don't order from this guy, he is a crook! He will get your site crashed with google, when I ordered it took him almost 3 weeks to start the job, then took another 2 weeks to get a report, so total 5 weeks to get a report.

Then right after I got the report the very next day my top ranking site of over 2 years went from first page 4th spot and first page 7th spot to, 298 and 184, then I told him about it and he said he would fix it he did more work and then it made it worse went to 356 and over 400, then he kept working and now both are gone....

Keep in mind no other seo was done but his seo, his seo link building is 100% solely at fault. So if you have a lng standing top ranking site stay away from him, he takes forever to respond to you and flat out tells you he won't refund...

BEAWARE, He also has this same rep on the other forum... Its too bad he is like this....

Even his filipino worker takes for ever to respond...

Keep in mind I ordered over 3 months ago, and even if your rankings do good at first they will not last but they will take a worst huge dive after a little while... so stay away..

sespot - prove the following which you claimed above, with solid genuine screenshot evidence:

1) The fact that we delivered the report 5 weeks later from the date of order. You can post the date it was ordered, date Update 1 was sent and date the final report was sent for everyone to know.

2) The fact that your ranks fell right after we delivered the report.

3) The fact that your website was ranking #4 for either of two keywords as of the date we delivered the report; or let me make it even easier for you; prove that you were ranking #4 for either of two keywords a week before or after the package was delivered.

4) The fact/point where I "admitted" Rank Showdown caused this. (We went beyond our limits and did an overwhelming amount of work because you literally "cried" over the issue and that was on pure intention to help you out; again post exactly what I've said - ideally with screenshot for everyone to know. A lesson well learned by us for trying to help people out for free where there was no fault by us; we aren't afraid to face negative remarks by any means, but we cannot stand fabrications/lies and false accusations.)

Ok here is some proof, your a liar!

Order 9-26-12 : Sent you 2 emails to confirm the the order did not get a reply back until 10 days later 10-6-12
10-14-12 : You claim that the order is complete, see attached screen shot I was ranking number one before you did the work, but always steady at 4th-5th no less for the past 18 months.

View attachment 21435

Your the lair

It is very clear that only after I ordered your service my rankings crashed!

And don't say it is from the panda update in oct, because that did not happen until 17-th to 22nd of oct, my rankings crashed well before that...

Your blind if you still can't see from the screenshot that it is from your direct service....... But if you want to keep on putting the blame elsewhere then thats fine...

Whilst i can't see exact dates on the screenshot it appears to be around the 27th of Sep that things started going downhill? Considering there was both the EMD update and a panda refresh on that date, as well as a penguin refresh and a page layout update just a week later i would suggest there lays your problem(s). There was no panda update between the 17th and 22nd of oct.

No if you look at the screenshot it does show round about dates, no clue where your getting the 27th of sept from, but the dots are the movement, and Ive been tracking it very close, I dropped around the 13th of OCT... With those updates being even around 27th or even a week later, My site would not be still ranking at the top then drop one week after all the updates, not very likley..

Dean even said he removed all the links he created to get my rankings back, so what am I paying for if he removed all them?

Also he stated he removed all the links and my rankings still did not come back so that is how he knew the drop was not from his service, well that is insane, if anyone thinks you can just remove the damage you already did and then google will re-rank you, your a bit crazy. The damage has already been done...... its that simple..


Bottom line is he screwed me 2 times, 1 by getting my site rankings crashed, then removing all his links he built and left me with bad rankings, no links, and lost money to me that is getting screwed every way poss yet BIG DEAN thinks this is OK... Karma is a Bit@h

Disclaimer ? We will now prove and dismiss sespot?s claims with solid evidence for any of you to see. We have been trying to work with sespot with utmost professionalism ? asking politely to back up their claims to be least, yet we were only greeted with threats via email. When you are polite sometimes that?s taken for granted. We?ve been called crook, liar, scammer amongst many by sespot; we will try to keep our claim intact, but false accusations are hard to let go. Please do not judge us, as this is not the way we work with clients; we were forced into this situation which we don?t deserve to be in.

Note: We respect client?s privacy so exact email addresses, project details, websites will not be shown in full as this is a public forum.

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Alright folks, so as you can see above sespot, has been working desperately, posting continuous negative remarks on my thread. Despite my previous requests, given precisely in 4 different points, sespot has not even bothered to address them properly.

False Claim #1 ? ?Sent 2 emails to confirm the the order did not get a reply back until 10 days?

Our response: We replied to the client from the very next day onwards; and were in touch constantly.

Proof: Refer the screenshots below:

Response, the very next day (combined images ? sespot's email and my reply):

Threaded view of initial conversations:

False claim #2 ? took 5 week s to get the report ? exact words by sespot ?..when I ordered it took him almost 3 weeks to start the job, then took another 2 weeks to get a report, so total 5 weeks to get a report??

Our response: Project was 100% delivered in 2 weeks and 4 days; while keeping the client updated on the progress. (If it actually took 5 weeks, given that the order was placed on 27[SUP]th[/SUP] of September ? it?d been delivered on 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] of November!)

Proof: Refer the screenshots below.

First update sent on ? 8[SUP]th[/SUP] of Oct

Final reports were sent -15[SUP]th[/SUP] of Oct

False claim #3 - ranks fell right after we delivered the report ? exact words by sespot: ??Ive been tracking it very close, I dropped around the 13th of OCT..?

Our response ? Ranks fell on the fourth of Oct; two weeks before the final reports; at the stage where we haven?t even probably started creating backlinks (the process is usually making allocations, preparing QuadCrunch content, reviewing content, proceeding into allocations for backlinks creation in terms web 2.0, social bookmarks and so forth).

Proof -(Solid evidence) As opposed to a small, blurry, vague rank graph provided by sespot in the previous post, we are providing the exact live rank graphs with live links from the point we entered the details into our micrositemasters.com account. Yes we still have them!

First keyword - click here for the live graph (you can adjust the dates and get a much better view)

Second keyword - click here for the live graph (you can adjust the dates and get a much better view)

This is solid proof that sespot?s website was not tanked by our service.


False claim #4 ? sespot says ?Dean even said he removed all the links he created to get my rankings back, so what am I paying for if he removed all them??

Our response: We said we?d removed web 2.0 backlinks in an effort to fix the condition for them (proof image below); not ALL backlinks. sespot still has social media links, social bookmarks, HQ profile links, .GOV .EDU links, directory submissions from Rank Showdown in the first tier. We also delivered many extras for free including a Master Blaster Links package worth 69.95 USD + more (I?m detailing them in the section ?Bonus Work? ? see at the end of this post.)

Proof: Refer the image below:

False claim #5 ? sespot stated that I/we admitted Rank Showdown caused the tank - exact words by sespot: ?Dean don't lie! Shaw I post all your emails to me? Where you admitted on 10-10-12 that your service has caused this to happen:?

Our response ? Never admitted something that we didn?t commit. We offered to help them out on pure goodwill as sespot was emotional.

Proof - If said so we urge sespot to provide proof to back up their accusation.

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False claim #6 ? ?Even his filipino worker takes for ever to respond...?

Our response ? sespot was in touch with myself all the time. Between us, till date there?ve been 34 emails. This in addition to the emails came from my team.

Proof ? Refer the screenshot below:

False claim #7 ? Says ?..even if your rankings do good at first they will not last but they will take a worst huge dive after a little while... so stay away..?

Our response ? Our backlinks are of high quality, done with care and according to quality measures. We in fact go beyond traditional measures and provide a 14 day retention guarantee for web 2.0 properties. Overall our backlinks stand up for quite a long period. So this exaggerated ?worst huge dive? is horrible lie.

Proof - Think our backlinks die soon? Read the following fully unbiased 30 day review from one of BHW members:

OK, I've put this review off for too long... But at least we get (almost) 30 day picture of the rankings.

Ordering 5 of 5
Ordered 2 Challenger Packages for 2 different higher profile client sites with plenty of age. It looks like the order went live on Nov. 1. I spent a couple of days previous emailing back and forth with questions, etc. Dean was extremely responsive and the communication was great!

Reports 5 of 5
As it has been said over and over again, the reports are stellar! One complaint (and I have the same complaint with most everyone else out there), NON CLICKABLE LINKS. I know, I'm being overly picky, but damn it would be nice if I didn't have to copy and paste every link in the Word doc... These are still the best reports that I have ever received.

Content 3 of 5
With all the talk about super unique, manual quad-spunned content, I really expected better. I've been doing this a while and I know what a pain in the ass it is, that's why I was most excited about and most let down by this bit... To me there was nothing spectacular about the content. It read like spun content. Pretty much all Web 2.0 submissions seemed very similar. To do it again, I would go with 2 beginner packages instead of the Challenger Package.

One of my clients goes through the reports and he was quite concerned about what he thought were poorly written articles with terrible grammar mistakes, but he loved the report!

Rankings 5 of 5
This is the part that most of you care about... Unfortunately, my rankings are tainted with and impacted by other efforts that I had going previously and since. The bottom line is that I do think that Rank Showdown did have the largest impact to my ranking improvements for both sites.

Site 1 - Google:

KW1 - November 1 POS 76, November 29 POS 19 Competition Exact Match 29,200,000 Searches Exact Match 110,000
KW2 - November 1 POS 29, November 29 POS 4 Competition Exact Match 78,500 Searches Exact Match 8,100
KW3 - November 1 POS 11, November 29 POS 9 Competition Exact Match 1,040,000 Searches Exact Match 22,200

Site 2 - Google:

KW1 - November 1 POS 78, November 29 POS 24 Competition Exact Match 1,260,000 Searches Exact Match 9,900
KW2 - November 1 POS 236, November 29 POS 17 Competition Exact Match 316,000 Searches Exact Match 3600
KW3 - November 1 POS 26, November 29 POS 12 Competition Exact Match 155,000 Searches Exact Match 4,400

I had nice images of graphs all set to post, but I can't post images apparently...

Conclusion This is a great service.
With everything included, the sheer diversity of links, social signals, etc.. are pretty awesome. I saw positive improvement in my rankings and I would recommend this service.

I personally think that I may get more bang for my buck if I order all Beginner Packages in the future, and tailor them to one keyword each. This way I get a unique master article (or set of articles) for each keyword. If you order the Challenger Package you get 5 more Web 2.0s but that seems to be 15 articles written from the one master article (or set of articles). For the same money I would rather order 2 Beginner Packages and get 2 unique master articles (or sets of articles), spun and submitted to 10 Web 2.0s each.

Bottom line is that I will use this service again. Improve the content further, add in a couple document shares to Tier 1 and I will buy multiple packages monthly.

False claim #8 ? BIGGEST OF ALL - JOKE OF THE CENTURY ON BHW!!! Said ?..And don't say it is from the panda update in oct, because that did not happen until 17-th to 22nd of oct.? So folks, sespot says THERE WAS AN ALGORITHM UPDATE BETWEEN 17[SUP]TH[/SUP]-22[SUP]ND[/SUP] October!!

Our response ? Oh boy, this is perhaps the biggest public failure. And despite the fact that it was pointed out by another independent member (bobred) sespot doesn?t want to accept it!

Proof ? THERE WAS NO Panda update around 17[SUP]th[/SUP] ? 22[SUP]nd[/SUP]. We could probably say an algorithm update takes a few days to propagate but claiming that there was an update around 17[SUP]th[/SUP] ? 22[SUP]nd[/SUP] is complete ignorance of facts as there wasn't any near. The following page is the ideal source, which will show anyone about algo updates; sespot should ideally bookmark it - http://www.seomoz.org/google-algorithm-change

.. But wait.. it gets better !! sespot IS AN SEO SOLUTIONS PROVIDER THEMSELVES! :crazy: :crazy: at:

We know SEO is a mystery, a game and a gamble we all are in which is highly unpredictable. No one is a guru, no one knows it all. BUT, an SEO provider not being aware of the algorithm update - and even stubborn enough not to admit it??? Solid proof they have no idea what they are doing.

God bless sespot.com clients!

sespot?s ?mentality":

After explaining what has probably affected sespot?s website ? just like bobred did in the previous post ? these were what I received:

Wow, now these are some serious threats aren?t they? Having no idea about SEO, posting false accusations back-to-back, vowing to revenge, threatening; shows precisely what sort of a person we are dealing with here!!

Bonus work:

sespot literally cried over email. And we know how frustrating sometimes things can be ? so we genuinely offered to help them out. We went beyond our delivery specifications and attempted to revive sespot?s ranks back by giving a series of services ? yes it was a cost for us!

• Master Blaster Links package; carried out free of charge ? worth 69.95 USD ? product page - http://www.seolix.com/seo-services/seo-packages/master-blaster-links/
  
• An additional social bookmarking blast; carried out free of charge ? 300+ social bookmarks (industry value ? anywhere from 5 USD to 30+ USD depending on the provider)
• Additional profile blasts; carried out free of charge ? (industry value ? anywhere from 5 USD to 10 USD depending on the provider)
• Web 2.0 link removal activities; carried out free of charge ? yes our efforts are a cost; it?s billable too ? about - 10-20 USD.
  

Proof:

Overall bonus value ? 100+ USD!!!!

So apart from the Rank Showdown package, sespot received items that are worth over 100 USD for FREE. That?s a cost of 100+ USD for us - yet we did that willingly with the pure intention to help them out.

NAME ONE OTHER SEO PROVIDER WHO WOULD DO WHAT WE DID!

Having done so much, do we deserve these horrendous accusations? Which we completely dismissed with solid evidence?

WE REPORT ? YOU DECIDE

P.S. sespot ? if you have some sanity, feel the feeling of being a public ridicule by now and ashamed of false accusation don?t post on this thread anymore. If you want to, I have given 8 of your false claims; address them with solid facts ? don?t beat around the bush; address them one by one; precisely. Note that this is a sales thread ? not your playground to post bogus remarks.

P.P.S. If it was another SEO provider, had followed your ?initiative? and tried to vent anger/get back at you, your entire set of websites would have been blasted to death by spam blasts by now. But unlike you, we aren?t immature ? we are professionals so we won?t be doing that. In fact we are loaded with enough Rank Showdown projects so don?t have time for that.

 

[ceosam]

Glad that Dean updated this thread. I definitely want to order but needed that cleared up. You did just that. I will be ordering for my site very soon. THANKS DEAN!

 

[sandhu40]

I have not received any report 11/12 days after payment.

Please let me know.

Thanks

 

[xyzrxyz]

I was really looking forward to ordering this but after sespot's review I'm wondering if I should. DarkDemon can you confirm if sespot is right or lying? I have been seeing great reviews from everyone else except him.

+ So far My website still get good SERPs.....and in my opinion there is no problem with this service!! & I also compare with other services this service is still the best!!! (With everything included, social signals, diversity of links, Articles, EDU, GOV, etc.. )
You don't need to trust me, it's better to keep you all off the fence and keep the goods for my self !!!

 

[xyzrxyz]

I was really looking forward to ordering this but after sespot's review I'm wondering if I should. DarkDemon can you confirm if sespot is right or lying? I have been seeing great reviews from everyone else except him.

As you've said """I have been seeing great reviews from everyone else except him."""" !!!!! except him (sespot's) !!!!!
Just follow every post made ​​by this guy!! You will know what kind of person he is!!

 

[sespot]

Dean it is super funny how you only posted screenshots of some emails, why don't you show them all the other screenshots of mine and yours? Show the whole truth showing dates and every single email without editing the emails like you did on a few above...

And if you really look thru all 11 pages you will find more then me complaining about this service, just others are not as pissed as me so they are not making such a big deal about it.

Everyone you can believe Dean if you want, but I warn you that do not put much trust into his service as one day it will tank your site, no matter what his link service caused google to change our first page rankings very bad. You can clearly see by his graph screenshots that when he started our site tanked..

Just think twice about ordering from this guy, think about it if his service was really good as he says then he would be making millions.. Its best just to build strong pr links..... This guys service is pure trash, Don't say I did not warn others.....

Your site might be doing good now but wait til google updates you will tank...

 

[fairgo]

I dont really know sespot or what happened with his order....but i do know Dean!

So far I have ordered 2 champion packages with Dean....only left a review for the last package....and not the current one...so here goes:

Customer Sevice: TOP notch, not a single email missed...and available extended hours via chat...answered every noob question I threw at him with a lot of patience...never cut me off...

Speed: 5/5...everything on time....a little earlier then initially estimated

Quality: the quality of the report as well as the overall experience has been nothing short of exemplary....

Ranking results: the most important part!!!.... ranking has gone from no where in the first package...to a first page...

here is my publicly available rank report for a tough keyword I might add:
http : // panel.micrositemasters . com/reports/f56769b16e992aa4b0e95164c3bliu4 . html

Now even though it shows around 11th position...I am actually getting around 6th and 7th in reality..not sure if micromasters is not yet updated or how it calculates but did check with a few friends in different countries all reported to see my site for the keyword around 6th or 7th position...

and this keyword has a volume of 4.4k!

Apart from the the above....

Let me just add that I haven't experienced a more honest man in the seo business then Dean so far.
also, he gives many "surprise" freebies just for being a loyal customer..all of which show real results...

we had a few hiccups along the way....but Dean was there to resolve them all...

I think i found my long term seo provider and strongly thinking of reselling his services.

from what dean has posted above and...following the threads...i think its safe to say that "sespot" is one of those very annoying...unreasonable...and abusive clients a business could ever have....i have other businesess and usually I dont even bother starting their project...i just immediately cancel there order and dont bother taking their money in the first place...

once you are around long enough you start getting a knack of identifying these kind of people.

Thanks,
Fairgo