ThreadKiller
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I think we all need to hear your answers on whether or not a functioning version is even feasible, and when the ETA is.
Permanently Closed Marketplace Sales Thread
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blackhit
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- Jan 28, 2008
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Since TextNow went down as an option to create PVA's I kept my eye on this thread.
I talked to neneaemy a couple of days ago.
Today I contacted both neneaemy and ExpertVision and told them they can't ignore this thread.
There are questions and customers are concerned about the promised update.
A a seller they have the responsibility to take care of a live BST thread.
Even if they are the messengers of bad news.
I talked to neneaemy a couple of days ago.
Today I contacted both neneaemy and ExpertVision and told them they can't ignore this thread.
There are questions and customers are concerned about the promised update.
A a seller they have the responsibility to take care of a live BST thread.
Even if they are the messengers of bad news.
carrepairs12
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I think they owe us a update to whats going on or if they can't fix the bot, a refund is in order, I didn't buy it to make 3 accounts and it dies
TIA
TIA
neneaemy
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Hi guys, we have tried many opions in the last week and with many workarounds (with google voice and other phone sites, trying to change the voice in to txt and so on). So far no luck with a working method that can be e effective. As far as we know, at this moment, there is no tool or method that can make google PVAccounts (some have the option but is not working). We are still searching the web for a replacement. At the same time we have worked hard to finish our new moneymaking method/tool product that we promissed to give our pva customers for free (this will be a 147$ product and brings the same targeted traffic as youtube - results seen in few hours after applying the method). We did not posted in the thread because we work on the clock to get this up! Thanks for your patience and understanding, we know that the need for youtube accounts is HUGE at this moment. We don't have any intention to abandon this project and when we will find a new hole in G's armor we will send the new update to all our customers!
Wealthy Wisdom
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what about people that don't want to wait and just want their money back?
and how come you showed people the method when you released this bot? I'm not trying to blame this bot for bringing textnow down...BUT is it a coincidence that the site stops working a month after your bot is released?
Do you even think a new PVA method (for a bot) is possible at this point... ? I would love this product if you actually found a new working method since school will be taking up most of my time and manually creating accounts is such a time drainer. But for now I guess i'll stay on the sidelines and watch what happens next.
and how come you showed people the method when you released this bot? I'm not trying to blame this bot for bringing textnow down...BUT is it a coincidence that the site stops working a month after your bot is released?
Do you even think a new PVA method (for a bot) is possible at this point... ? I would love this product if you actually found a new working method since school will be taking up most of my time and manually creating accounts is such a time drainer. But for now I guess i'll stay on the sidelines and watch what happens next.
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Grizzy
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What people were buying here was software that could automate a common account verification method (textnow). The abuse has been going on for a lot longer then the last month... it was just a matter of time.
drvosjeca
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Well... first i must say that i don't agree with you, and im saying this because there is a way to verify accounts, and it is working just fine for me
Im sad that sites like txtnow are taken down in notime because of such mass exploit. Yes I know this was used for a while already (been using it myself), but I dont understand why people are trying to kill everything that works just to make a quick buck?!
Dont get me wrong, im not your competition or something... I would never sell Gmail PVA creator, I rather use it for my work
scribeforthetribe
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Refund please. You never even issued me a license. More or less you took my money and when I ask about it nicely, I get shouted down in email.
chibobski84
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I would like to have my refund.
same. requested refund a couple days ago. was denied and given the runaround :/
neneaemy
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People, it is just upsetting to see how some of you cry about refunds and how you "did not get the chance to use the tool"! FIRST - we are not responsable about what you do with the software after you buy it! If you decide to buy it and use it after a month we don't care! When you bought this software you knew that it can die in any moment due to changes in google! We have talked about this several times on the thread and in private and we have told you that we will TRY to outsmart google and TRY to find another way. We have pissed off A LOT of people when we decided to get this tool out on the market and we have been hit with a lot of hate in the forums and in our email because we have taken the "privileges" from some and give you the chance to make your own Youtube accounts! And now you cry that you "just tested the tool" and not used it at full and you want a refund... is like I sell a gold mine, you see the gold inside and decide that you will dig it later and when the mine colapses you want a refund... well, you have accepted the risks and you can dig at any time, is not our problem that you did not! We are in Internet Marketing from some time and we know how volatile this business is! We are not in the scamming business! We have 4 products on sale on the web (one of them being sold on BHW also) and we are delivering on our promisses! All of you knew that the YT PVA Creator was at the mercy of google and we did not hide that from you, we have been working like crazy to find another working solution for the phone verification, all the solutions we have had are killed by google. We WILL update the software (if only to piss of the haters) IF and WHEN we can find a way to verify the accounts on auto (we know how to make the phone numbers for the verification process, the problem is how to get the audio message and transform it in to text to be inserted in to google without using any human intervention). We have made one mistake: we did not stop the sales for another 24 hours after textnow blocked the google numbers and stoped receiving the messages from google, by doing that we have had few customers that have bought the software when it was no longer function (it was not broken, it was doing exactly what it was supposed to do, it makes phone numbers and google accounts but textnow do not receive messages from google anymore), we refunded most of the people that bought the software after 29 Nov. (the date that textnow stopped working). We are not responsable for people that don't know how to use proxies, captcha services, that don't have good proxies for google or that did not use their copy untill 29 Nov. ... we have stated that on the Refund Policy on our site and here! We also DID NOT offer any guarantee for this software that it will work forever or that we will be able to update it as soon as google changes!! Some newbs have tried to claim fraudulent transactions with paypal, we have solved those claims in less then 48 hours in our favour ( you know that paypal don't react that fast unless there is no doubt, we are a business not a scamm and we can prove that all of our customers knew what they were doing when they clicked on they buy button! This thread was not approved untill Blackhit received the disclaimer and the refund policy!) SO STOP COMPLAINING AND LET US DO OUR JOB! YOU ALL KNEW THAT GOOGLE CHANGES FAST!! We have decided to offer our customers a free spot for our new making money method because we know how hard is to make money online and we value your efforts BUT WE DO NOT HAVE TO DO IT!! So take responsability of your decisions! We know how disperate you are for youtube accounts those days, but don't try to force our hand, this will not make us find a solution faster!
there are no haters of your bot as you think and write in your post. This method was working for ages before you developed it and you talk like the inventor of it. to automate this method all you need maximum of 200 lines of code.
but the idea to make it as an bot and thinking it will work forever and to sell people is vague. even now there are couple of working methods it need not a "guru"(LOL?) or a "privileged" guy to fix or and switch to another method. i bet people who bought it will not have created even a one thousand accounts becaue ma\ny people sell 10$ for 100 accounts. if you fix it it is all good for you
but the idea to make it as an bot and thinking it will work forever and to sell people is vague. even now there are couple of working methods it need not a "guru"(LOL?) or a "privileged" guy to fix or and switch to another method. i bet people who bought it will not have created even a one thousand accounts becaue ma\ny people sell 10$ for 100 accounts. if you fix it it is all good for you
Abstroose
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I just neg repped you for that. Your attitude is disgusting. You do not speak to people that have lined your pockets with money like that.
YouFeelMeDawg?
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Not trying to be a dick or anything, even though I personally got affected by the method getting patched and I really don't use PVA's, but your disclaimer really contradicts your refund policy. You literally have 2 different refund policy.
Thats from your End User License agreement
This is from your sales page, and you even have the same REFUND POLICY on your thread.
This is where it contradicts it self when you have the following
As you can tell you literally have 2 refund policies that are literally exactly the opposite, one claims no refund for any reason, yet the other one claims only for 'BROKEN SOFTWARE' such as you when youtube has changed the algorithms.
Copying a generic EULA and just inserting your site's name, company, and software title won't really protect you much when you have 2 different policies.
You exploited the weakness of many desperate bh'ers in this forum that were looking for a youtube account creator, you knew this was going to be a quick cash out for you. It's all obvious when you take a method that was posted in this forum,and decided to code the bot using the quickest way to make it. You used Ubot for your bot , not even C# or .net like most bots sold here, that speaks really highly of you for the quality of bot you provided, the exorbitant price tag you put on your bot, and your contradicting refund policies.
On top of that the attitude your showing towards your customers, thinking that your being nice by trying to give them some other software because your software failed to live up to minimum standards, is repugnant to say the least.
Your customers bought your software because they were desperate and it was the only thing available at the moment, you knew that all too well. HArd
Your trying to view the blackhat community as stupid with all of your posts, thinking a simple generic EULA, that contradicts your refund policy, will save you
.If you think am wrong, do you seriously think people would have paid 97 dollars if you would have stated in your thread CLEARLY that the method which the bot relies on is crucial for the bot and that without it , the bot seized to exist.
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9. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTIES
THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS-IS," AND TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, THE COMPANY DISCLAIMS ALL OTHER WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, BY STATUTE OR OTHERWISE, REGARDING THE SOFTWARE AND ANY RELATED MATERIALS, INCLUDING THEIR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, THEIR QUALITY, THEIR MERCHANTABILITY, OR THEIR NONINFRINGEMENT. THE COMPANY DOES NOT WARRANT THAT THE SOFTWARE OR ANY RELATED SERVICES OR CONTENT IS SECURE, FREE FROM BUGS, VIRUSES, ERRORS, OR OTHER PROGRAM LIMITATIONS; NOR DOES IT WARRANT ACCESS TO THE INTERNET OR TO ANY OTHER SERVICE THROUGH THE SOFTWARE. YOU MAY HAVE OTHER RIGHTS, WHICH VARY FROM JURISDICTION TO JURISDICTION. THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE RESULTS, QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE SOFTWARE IS WITH YOU. THE COMPANY WILL NOT REFUND YOU FOR ANY REASON. BY BUYING THIS SOFTWARE YOU AGREE TO THE COMPANY POLICY OF NONREFUND !
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[SIZE=2][COLOR=#ff0000][B]REFUND POLICY[/B][/COLOR]: If you buy 100 US PVA accounts with, let's say, 20$/100 accounts than in ONE DAY with this software that run in multiple instances you can make 2-3 times the value of this software so we don't do refunds after days of using it! that is stated in our EULA on our webpage and on the install process. Guys [B][COLOR=#ff0000]WE DO REFUNDS![/COLOR] [/B] but only for BROKEN SOFTWARE (if when you buy it it does not work - youtube has changed the algorithms) not for you not being able to use the software due to bad proxies and not for motivations like : "I don't like it anymore", you have the demo movie on the site, you have watched it before you pressed the BUY button so you know how the software look and what it does.[/SIZE]
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[COLOR=#ff0000]THE COMPANY WILL NOT REFUND YOU FOR ANY REASON. BY BUYING THIS SOFTWARE YOU AGREE TO THE COMPANY POLICY OF NONREFUND ![/COLOR]
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[SIZE=2] Guys [B][COLOR=#ff0000]WE DO REFUNDS![/COLOR] [/B] but only for BROKEN SOFTWARE (if when you buy it it does not work - youtube has changed the algorithms) not for you not being able to use the software due to bad proxies... [/SIZE]As you can tell you literally have 2 refund policies that are literally exactly the opposite, one claims no refund for any reason, yet the other one claims only for 'BROKEN SOFTWARE' such as you when youtube has changed the algorithms.
Copying a generic EULA and just inserting your site's name, company, and software title won't really protect you much when you have 2 different policies.
You're giving yourself too much credit thinking you were selling a gold mine that you only knew. What you really did was basically the same concept as someone taking a 'method' from this forum and packaging it in a ebook and selling it over at DP, except you took a method for creating PVA that was already, well known by many and exploited to the max for months, by making a bot that you perfectly knew it wasn't going to last not even a month and overpricing by putting it to the same pricing standard as many SEO tools that are used by many and provide atleast 4-6 months of updates before the tools seize to exist.Needless to say, your bot was coded in ubot and priced extremely high for a ubot bot, given the fact that many of those bots are hardly sold(with the exceptions of a few) and I've never even seen a ubot bot sold that high.
You exploited the weakness of many desperate bh'ers in this forum that were looking for a youtube account creator, you knew this was going to be a quick cash out for you. It's all obvious when you take a method that was posted in this forum,and decided to code the bot using the quickest way to make it. You used Ubot for your bot , not even C# or .net like most bots sold here, that speaks really highly of you for the quality of bot you provided, the exorbitant price tag you put on your bot, and your contradicting refund policies.
On top of that the attitude your showing towards your customers, thinking that your being nice by trying to give them some other software because your software failed to live up to minimum standards, is repugnant to say the least.
Your customers bought your software because they were desperate and it was the only thing available at the moment, you knew that all too well. HArd
In conclusion, your attitude is disgusting and all you care is about yourself. You really don't care about your customers, because any service provider will prove his quality of service through his services not by claiming what it is. True good services speak for themselves. I have no idea why you are not even banned yet or had your sales thread closed, your bot was literally the shittiest bot now I have seen. I mean even bornformoney coded the bot in .net not in ubot, you obviously could care less about your customers or the quality of your bot but only care about the quick cash out routes at the expense of bhw members using public methods in bhw and rehashing it as goldmine.
Your trying to view the blackhat community as stupid with all of your posts, thinking a simple generic EULA, that contradicts your refund policy, will save you
.If you think am wrong, do you seriously think people would have paid 97 dollars if you would have stated in your thread CLEARLY that the method which the bot relies on is crucial for the bot and that without it , the bot seized to exist.
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