SEO is so hard right now!!!

[Smeems]

Honestly, it sounds like a lot of people in this thread are just afraid of doing some actual work.

Look at what's consistently done well this year - guest posting with quality (read, not $0.005 a word) content on relevant websites that are not accepting every guest post under the sun.

You can still manage all this with your feet up, everything can still be automated/outsourced (if that's your sort of thing). But if you're still looking at xrumer/scrapebox blasts or mass blog commenting with generic posts, it's little wonder you're getting nowhere.

Take a step back and reevaluate. None of this shit is even being "creative" or "thinking outside the box".

 

[adroit]

am sure these days link building doesn't work after google update ...web2.0 surely works well and so as article unique article certainly going to get high rank

 

[radarsurge]

I agree with all that's said here. I'd look at anchor txt diversity, link diversity... too many blog comments are obvious spam. Also, even having that said there is something you are not telling us or something else is going on. It's just too volatile.

I build 20-40 manual (diverse) PR4+ links every day and use software (carefully and slowly) to link to sub-pages to target long tail phrases. It's working. Good luck.

 

[accelerator_dd]

I honestly feel tiering links with all that web 2.0 properties will sooner or later lose value. Everyone is building multiple tiers and suggesting others to do the same. Its a trend.

Similar trends were :

Blog networks

Sites with PR domains pointed to them, and every page on those sites giving an outbound link? Have you taken up some post from a private network back then to see how many outbound links that domain had? I have - BMR and a couple of others, they all have x2 or x3 times of outbound compared to inbound AND the fun fact is, they had more outbound links than they had posts altogether (remember the ones where you post a 300 words article with 2 links?). So even if it was held private, it would have come to an end sooner or later.

Link Wheels

It might happen once or twice naturally, but each website that's ranked on page one to have at least a dozen linkwheels in its linking profile + those whitehat webmasters sending complains + no one doing things randomly? Yes, it gets site hit and what not since a few years ago, BUT, do one whitehat linkwheel today on a site with established authority - you will still get a small boost, do a couple more and you'll get penalyzed. But with one only, you will be good since it's not that unnatural to have one small, whitehat, wheel, if done right!

Profile Backlinks

Yes, 1000 people put your website as their website since they spend so much time on your 5 page site, it's practically home(page). Huh, I've seen a lot of people put their facebook page URL as their website - facebook is about to get slapped HARD for using xrumer so much!

No but seriously, tiering will be good for some time. That's simply because even the tiers you are using are somehow related, so if they aren't actually full of bad spintax that can't be read by anyone - YES it might end, but if it's okay content that can be read and is related somehow to your website and the anchor used (that's why we put LSI there), you can sleep well at night without worrying about Matt Cutts driving to work in the morning and putting an end to tiers!

 

[BHopkins]

Try to get the links that not everyone can get. Those are the links with the most value.

 

[jhonson5]

Quality is king, no doubt about that. So focus on quality content and it will boost you up itself.

 

[meeaou]

there are so many ways, read the BHW other sections

 

[deathx01]

Build your own script in senuke XCR , Find good article directory ,read about panda / penguin, dont waste your time on forum profile or web 2.0 profile. Buy real article to start ... dont start from a already spun article... Try to have the best content for your article/website and when you publish on sb,sn,pdf...etc...it will have to look like real user interaction.

 

[dubious]

What's the nature of your website? Does it have User Profiles? If you do, you can have the best of both worlsd and create a PageRank filter for you website, so you can control the incoming pagerank and link authority to your website.

A simply way to do this is to include your money links, contextualised within that self user page (like "favourite blog posts" , "recently commented on" with manual, hard coded optimised contextual internal links). The external backlinks will be to various high pr/edu/gov forum profiles or Web 2.0/Social profiles Then, you backlink all of your high PR backlinks link comments, profiles etc to that user profile on your website.

A, this is more organic.

B, It doesn't place your money pages in direct damage receiving High PR Internal links whilst stilll pumping up the overall Domain Authority.

So, create 50, 100 user pages on your website as filters, then links to these PR filters to pass consequential page rank to your money website.

Note: This doesn't have to be user profiles, you can do company profiles etc and other creative ways to control pagerank and authority flow to your website.

 

[gvncerri]

Too many websites online. Time to choose sub-niches instead of niches

 

[julia adam]

I totally second you mate, recent times are really difficult to stand out in the competition only the strong ones can survive rest are continuously losing ranks sites etc etc. try try try and don't ask why :/ i would also say go for quality not quantity.

 

[trevorhoang]

i gave up on google. gunna look into yahoo n bing or othere money making factors outside of seo. it gets harder and harder every year.

 

[Nauthiz666]

Honestly I still do local SEO for business offline clients, but SEO in general to me is just boring, tedious, and losing its value with algorithm changes, at least for my own sites. I am getting into creating websites people want to go to without google and use social media and mobile traffic. Google is requiring more quality links to rank, therefore those links are more expensive and time constraining to make. I just feel like making adsense and CPA sites are a waste of time to me personally. I really don't like being a "SEO" guy, SEO is such a dirty whore of a industry term. I want to be more of a marketer with broader skills.

 

[jake454]

my best suggestion is to just read a lot and try different things. its really important that you stay up to date with the google updates and not make your seo efforts obvious. social power also plays alot right now along with diverse links and diverse anchor text.

 

[dbk03]

Stop using spunned content in tiers 1, 2 or 3. Obviously, don't even think about using it on money site. Do all the blackhat SEO techniques y0u're familiar with but reduce the size of the campaign. Instead of having 10 links from spunned content articles/ web 2.0's/ wikis, limit yourself to 3 links but from manually written content. I have noticed a serious improve on ranking after I stopped using spunned content.
Also, try to think logically. If you have a website with, let's say, 20 pages, including about, contact etc, launched 2 months ago. It now has, for example, 50 UV's/ day. How many of them do you think will decide to write a blog post about your site in one day? How many of them will share the link on a forum in one day? How many of them do you think will decide to start a new web 2.0 with the same theme, almost the same content (spunned) and will also link it just to your site? A lot of other questions could come here, depending on the complexity of your linking strategy.
But, the answer to all these questions, in this particular example, is: very very few of them. That is what Google knows very well and that is what you should know, too. Build your linking strategy according to the impact your site has on your visitors. Start slowly and look for quality!

 

[-Jericho-]

SEO has definitely become more difficult. It's forced me to branch out into other things. It's still doable but requires more work and/or money than before.

 

[BlackFox.io]

Some words of Advice,
Hard, Hardest, Tough, Impossible , trying are all a state of mind

 

[TwistedSEO]

Keep it diverse, ie anchors on all types of platforms. Don't build a ton of links. Don't use GA/tools. Don't stop building links even when you lose rank. Add quality original content to your site daily, etc. Don't follow the trend and build a ton of the same links over and over.. Build related backlinks to your niche. Don't build "here", "click" "my site" on all wikis, and "keyword" on blog comments, that's a huge red flag.. So many other things I could go over, but you get the idea. SEO works, I'm doing fine, but I'm also not spamming everything and anything, I'm actually taking it slow and going for quality > quantity. Manual work is important, don't go automation over and over.. ie. you really think it will work when you're using spun content/comments/profiles/etc over and over and over.. No, write original content; now is not the time to be lazy.

So you're saying to avoid generic anchor texts on wiki backlinks?

 

[dude91]

The issue is, I am here for the long run. I am here for the SEMI passive money. I just can't afford to risk for temporary gain. Why not play it different and enjoy the fruit for longer ?

 

[Scritty]

I've not really changed a great deal and still rank using content based offsite SEO just fine.
If anything the updates have cleared the sites above me out - essp in vacation and automotive this year. Vacation (location based) sites I have have leapt up consistently every time there has been an update. Auto sites have just crept up.

Been an excellent year all round really.

Scritty