chaldoflirt
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So I take it you cant use 1 domain on 10 different accounts like stated in the first thread where he uses the same domain but uses subdomains for each new account.
So I take it you cant use 1 domain on 10 different accounts like stated in the first thread where he uses the same domain but uses subdomains for each new account.
You can, but not at the same time. Wait for your 1st account to get exhausted -> delete campaign -> move to the next one.
Alright, guys. I've been working on this method for close to a couple months now. Almost non-stop. I've been trying almost everything in the books that I can think of.
However I still can't get it consistently working.
So for some background. I've probably created upwards of 60-70 accounts, and all but 10-15 of them have been banned or suspended without any of their ad money being spent. 10 out of the 15 that worked, was at a point in my process when I was testing getting 10 different URL's with the same sales page on them all simultaneously running the same ads just pointed at different URL's. I've been documenting the process that my partner and I have gone through the whole time. As far as I know the process that worked for me once, was this.
Opened up VMWare with a copy of windows 7 running. We created snapshots immediately after installation because we wanted a completely clean PC that we could work with to avoid detection. This, for all intents and purposes should make the concept of flash/cache/cookies irrelevant. We installed only three programs on this computer: HMA VPN, Adwords Editor and Firefox Portable. We did not unpack firefox portable until after we were connected through the VPN. VMWare also allows you to manually generate different MAC addresses, we spent a lot of time changing the mac address and on the accounts that did work we used unique mac addresses on every account. Not positive if this is the reason they worked, just mentioning that it may have attributed to the success of the account.
After connecting to HMA VPN we would then set our clocks to the appropriate timezone on the computer. Then we opened firefox (not private mode in the 10 that worked, though we've experimented with all different combinations of no-private mode and private mode) and went to the mail service to create an account. We determined early on that some accounts get asked for verification during the email setup process and others do not. We made sure that in the accounts that worked, the mail accounts were not asked for manual phone verification. This was achieved by repeatedly restarting to the VMWare Snapshot and connecting not to a different IP in HMA, but to a different server entirely. We believe that this is an important part of the process, but are unsure why.
After the 10 accounts that worked, we tried again using the *exact* same method we had used.
They won't work.
The accounts were immediately banned in almost all cases, with some going to manual review and then being banned.
Now what we're trying to determine is if the accounts have been permanently flagged due to a few factors, by URL or Hardware, or OTHER. Some variable that we haven't quite determined that they measure for yet.
I believe we should be effectively dodging the double serving policy as none of the accounts promote the same keywords and none of the accounts point to the same URL's, the only thing that is the same across the board is the sales page is essentially if not perfectly identical. This is a variable that still needs to be tested, as I haven't tried to get just ONE account to work in a long time. However it goes without saying that having all 10 running at the same time for their entire budget, with all of the same keywords and ads is some type of very strange anomaly if they somehow fell through the automated checks that google likely runs against every adwords account that is created.
I've also started to use purchased email accounts, which adds another variable unfortunately, but allows me to test sites at a more rapid pace and determine if it's the sites/LP's that are flagging me or the account creation process that is flagging me. I'm beginning to believe that it is in fact the account creation process and not the sites/double serving policy. I'll be changing the hardware settings in approximately a week to determine if that fixes my problem. As of now I've profited a couple hundred dollars just from the 10 accounts that did work, which is great. But very frustrating that I can't get it to consistently work, which is the biggest problem.
P.S Herocute, I'd like to discuss your process with you more in-depth and I'd be willing to help you learn some monetization tactics.
P.P.S I'll probably continue updating in here, in hopes that someone will be able to point out flaws. After looking at the same problem for so long it begins to morph until you can't see what you were trying to fix in the first place. Good luck to everyone else.
Hello, I would also like to share my horror that I have been facing for more than 1 month... The problem is simple: I can not get the ad's running. Here is what I did
The first portion of tests was done with this configuration:
1. Different VMware installs and only one adwords account created per install (meaning always different MAC address and hardware ids);
2. I was using some private USA proxies (socks);
3. Was using vouchers from fiverr (100 USD ones);
4. Was using 100% real address (used Google Maps to find USA house, then looked up it's zip code, the address matched with the IP address location which had been found by using geolocation);
5. Was using random Name/Last name and number (phone number matched the address);
6. Some of the vouchers were added when 3 days passed after the creation of account (I crated campaigns, got them approved and only then added vouchers + billing info).
7. Was using many different websites which I do not even own. Mainly little blogs without analytics or other google products.
8. All websites were in English, I used USA as advertisement region.
Results: 95% failures, only few accounts worked without any logical reasion (just luck I guess). Like 20 accounts failed: instant pending reviews and suspends after that.
The second portion of tests is being done right now, but I dont know if it works since I see signs of failure: one account is pending review, another one has "Your ads are not showing, contact support" error message, some fresh ones have "Your campaign is not enabled" errors. All of my ads are APPROVED by the way. Now I am testing this:
1. Stopped using USA as country and stopped using USD as currency so now I am creating accounts from random countries (Philippines, Germany, Lithuania);
2. Created ads with text in German, Lithuanian and so on;
3. Started adding vouchers instantly on fresh accounts;
4. Started using HideMyAss VPN;
5. Each account has it's own browser;
6. Now using TMAC software to change MAC address in VMware to save time (installing new OS for each account lasts too much);
7. Using CCleaner to clean stuff all the time;
I see where it goes, but I smell baaaad things...
I also tested one account with the first configuration, but I used different vouchers: I could 3 of them (100 USD each) in ONE ACCOUNT, meaning I now have 300 USD balance. This account PASSED the review so this lets me think that maybe this whole suspend thing is because of the vouchers and because they are different... Maybe some of them are "bad" and need to be used by following a specific sign-up URL (for example hostgator informs people that they MUST use the URL they provide).
So, for now I am asking someone to share their used voucher codes which were successful (Ads were launched). Also, I would me more than grateful if someone shared their Fiverr contact which had sold them winning vouchers. I used to buy them from satyr85 and 95% of them were a failure...
How many hours a day will this take if you want to make $100 each day off this?
Great info btw.
A big warning if for those who are doing this:
Don't Buy Vouchers from satyr85. That guy is a scammer.
His voucher will get you banned. The extra $5 is not worth it.
His vouchers stand out like a sore thumb. Google notice it and ban all account using the same source.
A big warning if for those who are doing this:
Don't Buy Vouchers from satyr85. That guy is a scammer.
His voucher will get you banned. The extra $5 is not worth it.
His vouchers stand out like a sore thumb. Google notice it and ban all account using the same source.