BlackHat Tools really needed to start?

[C4V10]

Hi!
I know, to give a sprint on our site/blog ecc ecc we need tools like scrapebox, xrumer, SENuke and other...
But to start can i make everything manually?
I really need to buy this tools from the start?
Or i can make some money from scratch and than boost my site/blog with the tools?

 

[webm4ster]

There are a lot of free tools to start with. I still don't use xrumer etc.
Try sick-submitter. They give you a free trial for 1 month.

 

[ugjunk]

Get GSA, Ultimate Demon along with a VPS, that's what you pretty much need to start up with.

 

[Roland32]

UD on a subscription will get you the farthest on the least amount imo.

 

[nipunn12]

Option 1 : First create a site and upload your own videos to one YouTube account. The account should have your website link in the channel description. You can even put internal links in the video description.

Now embed your videos to your website posts.

Buy services to make your YouTube video rank. Automatically the posts on your website with the videos embedded will rank for the keyword and you will get genuine comments on your site for that post.

Add Adsense or amazon affiliate to your site and become rich.

Option 2: Create a Yahoo Answers account to advertise your site. You can search BHW for a detailed explanation.

 

[jsant07]

All tools really do at the end of the day, is automate. Yes you can start manually and work your way up to affording tools. Of course the use of tools is going to make things easier but at the end of the day, they are just supplementary. In my case, I started without tools or anything for about a year and I feel like I learned and understand more that way.

 

[Danny1111]

When I started with IM - I did everything by Hand

as started to make money and realize that you could make money at this
then started to buy the software.

software makes your life easier -- but you still need a brain to make everything
work towards the goal of making money - no software is just push button/hands off.

 

[jutt29]

Nothing is Blackhat in this game..it is your perception that makes it blackhat.. So instead of wasting time on tools like these just learn some basic backlinking ..then after making money outsource everything..

 

[JimmyConway]

I would consider everything to be grey hat for the most part. You will definitely need to be putting scrapebox and any tools on a VPS. It's much faster.

 

[kazhkaz]

You should better start doing everything manually. Yes, it takes time but it also adds quality which is very important in the long-term strategy. Automated tools if used in wrong direction may garm your site before it even starts to rank.

 

[AllIWantedWasAPepsi]

IMHO it's not that hard to do good SEO manually if your site focuses on an unusual niche. I usually pick an odd but profitable niche and do blog comments, directory submissions, forum profiles/posting, link buying, etc manually with good results. This is also the safest method.

 

[imonething]

You don't need blackhat tools too do anything, follow Googles rules, produce unique content, relevent backlinks, no spam and you will still lose.

 

[Absynth]

There are so many tools out there that are wasted on people who have no idea how to use them or what they are doing. Any software that you push a button then BOOM you're number one in the serps would be to valuable to sell. So find a link building method that works for you, test it with a few sites. If it works, then use software to automate the SEO process.

 

[Scritty]

The right way is.

Understand concept
Work out detail manualy
Check results manualy
If it works - carry on - if not go back 3 steps
See what needs speeding or scaling up
Buy the tools for that

You don't start a career in SEO by buying tools.

For example; What works in micro site marketing is about 100% the opposite from what works in authority/social site marketing
What works in web based affiliate marketing is about 100% different from what works with Facebook, Twitter marketing
Then there's CL, Ewhoring and a whole load of other ways to make money on the net.
And everyone does them differently

Work out what you want to do
Understand how your plan/process works
Automate to speed it up

Scritty

 

[highl4nder]

To start? No.

But once you know how things work and have multiple sites? Yes.

 

[C4V10]

There are a lot of free tools to start with. I still don't use xrumer etc.
Try sick-submitter. They give you a free trial for 1 month.

Thanks!

 

[C4V10]

Get GSA, Ultimate Demon along with a VPS, that's what you pretty much need to start up with.

Thanks! But i will start without tools!
I think the new "penguins" is a killer for a newbie that use black tools!

 

[C4V10]

UD on a subscription will get you the farthest on the least amount imo.

Sorry but i don't understand your answer!

 

[C4V10]

Option 1 : First create a site and upload your own videos to one YouTube account. The account should have your website link in the channel description. You can even put internal links in the video description.

Now embed your videos to your website posts.

Buy services to make your YouTube video rank. Automatically the posts on your website with the videos embedded will rank for the keyword and you will get genuine comments on your site for that post.

Add Adsense or amazon affiliate to your site and become rich.

Option 2: Create a Yahoo Answers account to advertise your site. You can search BHW for a detailed explanation.

I think Option 1 can be my way! very very good!!

 

[C4V10]

The right way is.

Understand concept
Work out detail manualy
Check results manualy
If it works - carry on - if not go back 3 steps
See what needs speeding or scaling up
Buy the tools for that

You don't start a career in SEO by buying tools.

For example; What works in micro site marketing is about 100% the opposite from what works in authority/social site marketing
What works in web based affiliate marketing is about 100% different from what works with Facebook, Twitter marketing
Then there's CL, Ewhoring and a whole load of other ways to make money on the net.
And everyone does them differently

Work out what you want to do
Understand how your plan/process works
Automate to speed it up

Scritty

Thank you very much!
Very good info!