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By your views we should be out jailing wolves and giving them the chair for murder. You're fucking retarded, and driven purely by emotion, with little logic to be found anywhere in the picture. This is what I can't stand about the majority of vegans/vegetarians, of which you fit firmly in with. You make all these big claims, while clearly stating that you are in it for exactly the reasons I have outlined. You only support it to convince yourself that you're a better person for doing so. All the cosmic a karma babble? Just goes to show that you're doing it to obtain what you believe to be "good karma". You're doing it for your own benefit. To convince yourself of your own supposedly elevated self-worth. Karma as a cosmic force exists about as much as the spaghetti monster, but logic is clearly not in your realm of existence, so we won't go there. Such a dedicated hippie should be aware that science has performed studies that indicate that plant life may in fact be able to communicate with one another, that it may in fact have a type of consciousness. So why is it ok to kill plants for sustenance but not animals that fit into the nature order as a food product? It's because you don't emotionally relate to a stalk of celery. It's purely an emotional decision, made in order to maintain your own emotional stability. Get over it, and get over yourself. Defying your own natural instincts in order to preserve your own self worth is unquestionably a self-righteous act. It's pure masturbation...