StoneCold316 is using nulled themes and plugins on his MNS service thread.

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This is my first shitlist and hopefully my last. I like to handle things without bringing them into public but there is the potential to be sued after this service and I was encouraged to open a shitlist by members of the board.

I purchased Stonecold's mns with ranker module and received decent but very slow service.

His thread is here: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...micro-niche-sites-improved-ranker-module.html

I am ok with slow service because people sometimes take awhile to reply, we get bogged down by things in life and other responsibilities. The problem I had with StoneCold is he is using nulled themes and plugins on these MNSs. I ordered two MNSs from him and one had a copy of Clickbump 5 and the other a copy of CTR Theme. They both had a nulled copy of Easy WP Seo on them.

I asked for a refund for a couple of reasons and included the fact that nulled products were included and his response was, "CTRTheme is a premium theme.So you expect us to buy 67$ theme for your site for which you are paying less than 50$ ?" When I commented again about him using a nulled theme he said, "We have used High CTR theme.Also,the basic thing I am telling is that CTR theme costs 67$ and our service when you purchased cost 49.95$.So,how do you think we can manage to give official version of the theme?"

This has confirmed to me that he is in fact using nulled products. We have messaged back and forth regarding the issue and he will not confirm that he is not using a nulled theme but has just asked me how I can expect a legit copy when I haven't paid for one.

I am not shitlisting Stone because I am unhappy with his service. I am shitting him because he is using a nulled theme for his MNS sites, one of which is on the DNS list here on BHW.

This could cause potential problems for MNS owners and has basically rendered my sites useless.

I am asking for a full refund on this matter but even if I do not get it, he needs to either stop his service or confirm that he is in fact using a legit version of CTR Theme or Clickbump 5. Since he has not done so yet I was forced to open this thread to protect other buyers.
 
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I closed the accused BST thread, but it's still readable as people may need to access the thread to check their past orders. The accused has been notified via PM of this thread and has 24 hours to respond.

Selling pirated products through a BST service is not allowed or acceptable, it's straight illegal. If this is true, the accused has put everyone using those sites at risk of a C&D, or further legal issues depending on how the owner of the theme conducts themselves in situations like these.
 
Clickbump has a developer version so I am not sure why he would be asking you that question. Any legitimate seller would have developer versions of these themes / plugins
 
Hi

I have used legit version of ClickBump theme.
Regarding CTRTheme,I am ready to provide josh with Legit version and also ready to offer refund.I have just sent him PM and awaiting his reply.
 
PM's.

Originally Posted by BleemZ

You need to go participate in that thread. Right now you're facing a perm ban, you sold pirated software to customers without even telling them. That's not just illegal, it's a really careless and unprofessional thing to do. CTR Theme is listed on the Do Not Share list; the owner of that product put it there. Your excuses don't fly, go own up to what you did and we'll let your customers and the owner of the CTR Theme decide what happens to you.
Originally Posted by stonecold316
Hi Bleemz

I am using a Legit version of CLickBump theme on his site.Also,I agree that the CTRtheme version is nulled which was shared on BHW.

I have offered him to replace that theme and I am sorry to say I didn't knew its not good to use nulled themes.

I promise I will not let this happen again.

I have also contacted josh offering him a replacement.


Originally Posted by BleemZ

Your BST thread has been closed, you have thread waiting for you in the shitlist section Here

These are very serious allegations, as you're not only accused of selling illegal pirated software to people, which is not allowed here, you're also reselling a current members products illegally. You have 24 hours to respond or you will be removed from the forum.
 
Are you going to replace the theme for every one of your customers that you sold it to?

Reimburse the owner of the software you resold without a license?

Anything professional at all?

Your excuses are crap, you've ripped off everyone. Are you actually providing a new theme or is it a pirated copy of another persons work? You've got to be an absolute idiot to even try to claim you didn't know that was wrong. You sold pirated software, knowingly. What the shit, man?

I've informed the owner of the theme of this thread.
 
I have dealt with Stonecold in the past without any problems surprised to see him here

:(
 
Stonecold is an Idiot... Instead he could have got a PLR theme (yes they are available), tweaked them a little for good CTR and then opened a BST....

EDIT:This is one big reason I abstain from doing business with my fellow countrymen, cz the concept of "JUGAAD" is very common here, and I don't want that when I talk of business.
 
So what about other guys who sell MNS are they using same pirated CTR theme? I have seen sample from other members like Star Ent who are using CTR Theme. Not saying they are using pirated copy.
 
So what about other guys who sell MNS are they using same pirated CTR theme? I have seen sample from other members like Star Ent who are using CTR Theme. Not saying they are using pirated copy.

Simple, if you can prove they are using Pirated versions then just raise an alarm....
 
most of theme owners providing "Developer version" get it man and talk with owners with that themes ,i am sure you will find some good way which is legal,follows BHW rules and cost effective for you
 
Glad this got posted because his BST was at the top of my list. I was thinking of investing in about 10 sites and his service seemed great.

Anyways thanks op for bringing this to everyone's attention and to the mods for a quick response. I just don't see how he can possibly undo this though. He has downright stolen from another member by using his theme and he has possibly put other member's sites at risk. Horrible and absolutely unprofessional.
 
stonecold316 has been perm banned from the forum. He issued a refund to joshweaver, which is what I was waiting for.

That kind of behavior is not tolerated here.
 
Thanks joshweaver9 and BleemZ.

I was in touch with stonecold few weeks ago about his MNS BST. Back then I didn't have the funds so we put it off for a while. I am out shopping for MNS services right now and decided to follow up on the PM with stonecold, whose 'Banned' status led me to this thread.

kudos to you guys.
 
Damn I'm one of those guys whom bought his MNS. He should refund some part of the money if he was selling pirated theme as this could get my site into trouble. My only problem is that it's more than 60 days in paypal so I can't asked a refund. :(
 
i alos bought from him, his service is good but i am not aware that he use pirated theme. thanks to joshweaver9 for this reminder
 
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