[JV] I'll do the work, You make money!

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Hello BlackHatters,

I know my last JV thread was not well received, but that was mainly because I was asking for a large sum of money. I decided BHW was probably not the best place for that, so I took it down.

However, I am presenting a JV opportunity to single members or multiple members of Black Hat World.

I have a proposition for a offline mail campaign that will hopefully make us profitable. I have done multiple campaigns similar to this; however, I have not done anything exactly like this before. I plan on making a "small" test to see if it's worth scaling up and repeating.

Since it's a test run, I am making it a join-venture opportunity to ANYONE who is willing to try it out as well. Feel free to add me on Skype or message me to hear the idea, and tell me if you are in.

I'm not asking for a specific amount of money, but I am asking for some kind of investment.

From my calculations, this will probably make around $15,000-$25,000 in the elapsed period of 2-3 months. I am willing to give upwards of 40% of those profits to the investors; I will be doing 100% all the work.

SKYPE: ethan.im

OR

Private message me for more information.

Looking forward to hearing from you,
Regards,
Fenchel
 
No. No no no no no. If it was this possible, it would have been done already. Your first JV should never be asking for money. In my opinion, your JV should NEVER be asking for money period, unless you are a REPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAABLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MEMBER!
 
How am I not a reputable member? This isn't my first JV. I have done many successful JVs in the past. The last one was being too eager; but before that, all of them were successful.
 
Ideas don't worth shit, proven facts does. Everybody has plenty of ideas, nobody needs your idea. You are pulling never tested and unproven ideas out of your ass, asking for money, on top of that offering 40% profit share.

Nobody is gonna gamble their hard earned money, for an unproven, never tested idea, take all the risk and be ok with 40%. You gotta stop coming up with these joint ventures that makes no sense.
 
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Ideas don't worth shit, proven facts does. Everybody has plenty of ideas, nobody needs your idea. You are pulling never tested and unproven ideas out of your ass, asking for money, on top of that offering 40% profit share.

Nobody is gonna gamble their hard earned money, for an unproven, never tested idea. You gotta stop coming up with these joint ventures that makes no sense.

Oh there are proven facts. Mind I share them to an open community? I'd prefer not to. I'm not asking people to blindly hand over money.
 
send you the pm...interested...to know
 
Thanks for all the interest! A lot of feedback on this; however, I am still looking to fill spots...
 
This is interesting, but just like another JV, I would like to see what another Reputable members says about his experiance etc, :) Please write Reviews guys thank you
 
After receiving 25 private messages about the JV, I have decided to leak some of the information out to the public for people who would still be interested in participating. It will give you the opportunity to make money without having to do "ANY" work.

In a couple weeks, I will begin an offline mail campaign that will be targeting NEW businesses owners. The campaign will advertise my services in a very similar fashion the 7878 has made famous here on BHW. The campaign will be sent to hundreds if not thousands of new business owners. Why new business owners? Because often, they won't have a website finished. With my more-then-affordable prices, they can't refuse it.

I am still looking for 2-3 people who would be willing to invest. I am taking all investments into consideration - but please note, the amount you invest will vary your ROI. If you invest more, you will get more in profit.

I am not begging the community for money, like I said- This is a test run. I have a very high-desire to take this to the next level after I can calm my nerves that this will be successful. Further questions, you can add me on SKYPE.

Pros:
- You don't have to do anything
- You can learn and benefit from what I am doing
- You can make money
- You will have motivation to make more money with Internet Marketing

Cons
- There is a risk. Like any investment, I can't guarentee that you will be hugely profitable or you will see a return. However, I will try to return SOME if not all of your investment if for some reason this would not work.

Still got questions? Add me on Skype or send me a private message.

Thank you!
 
If it's an offline mailing venture then why do you need large amounts of money?

No investor in the world is going to hand over money for some unproven venture. That's NOT how investing works.

How it works is you create a business, make profit and THEN you present a plan to an investor showing how with their money you can scale your business.

You're nothing more than one of these people who comes up with an idea to sell X, then wants say $200k to buy a massive stock of X before they've even done market research, tested the market or sold a single X.

As Duncan Bannatyne would say:

It's ridiculous, ludicrous and I'm out.
 
If it's an offline mailing venture then why do you need large amounts of money?

No investor in the world is going to hand over money for some unproven venture. That's NOT how investing works.

How it works is you create a business, make profit and THEN you present a plan to an investor showing how with their money you can scale your business.

You're nothing more than one of these people who comes up with an idea to sell X, then wants say $200k to buy a massive stock of X before they've even done market research, tested the market or sold a single X.

As Duncan Bannatyne would say:

It's ridiculous, ludicrous and I'm out.


I have run similar campaigns; However this one is with a twist. I'm not asking for rather a large amount of money. I have a very strong and realistic feeling that this will work.

Thanks...
 
I have run similar campaigns; However this one is with a twist. I'm not asking for rather a large amount of money. I have a very strong and realistic feeling that this will work.

Thanks...

That's not good enough for investors though, buddy. The amount of money is irrelevant. I wouldn't want to just give away even $20 just for the sake of it. If I didn't think it'd work then I wouldn't give even $1.

You can't ask for investment based on a "feeling" just because you use adjectives like "realistic" and "strong". It doesn't change the fact that it's just a feeling.

A 'twist' is also not solid. As I said you need a solid business plan and a proven track record. You need at the very least to have made SOMETHING, even if it's only a few sales/leads/conversions/interest. *something*. A 'feeling' just won't cut it.
 
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