Abusing the reputation system - and a warning.

[tharako]

Yep, but bear in mind the mods are blackhatter's too... and are probably smarter than most people like to think... so it's not going to work for long before we catch you

Indeed, I still don't know a bh method which last forever

 

[StartupBros]

Why dont you guys just make it so you cant rep the same person more than once...

Sometimes I feel like I have outgrown this forum...

 

[keytenx]

well its about time. so Shit List would be less populated.

 

[Winchester]

I'm not sure if this is possible so I would have to ask.

The thing to note here is that the problem is a GROUP of members repping each other in a "circle". So I'm not sure if removing the ability to give rep in the lounge would solve this issue.

Hopefully, however, this post will be a warning to those who are doing it to stop. Repping the same person 17 times in 2 months (yes, one person has done this) is clearly ridiculous and we're on to you

It is possible, it's just a modification based on category.

<vb:if condition="$forum[forumid] != x"><rep button code></vb:if>

With the forumid set as X it means rep button would show in every forum except X

I give this thread a WinScore of 93%.

 

[keinehabe]

most of the noobs there begging for thanks and rep , especially when they are posting any crap lol , most of the time they just copy/paste from other sites ...

 

[tacopalypse]

rename "Rep" to "Derp"

all problems solved

 

[Virus1]

Yeah... not only is it getting out of hand.... the abuse is running rampant.

It's like there are inner circles and inner clicks on BHW.

All it takes is some controversial post in the lounge....
then two groups of people get into it with each other...
then next day---- everyone has mega reps added...

People rep each other for supporting some BS post they did...
and of course the other person pays back the favor.

 

[SOCOM]

glad this is being looked in to BHW has become more and more rampant with 'reputable' members running scams.

 

[Virus1]

I think it would help alot if REP can only be given to the ORIGINAL POSTER.

That would stop a lot of BS.

 

[davids355]

Reps not that important anyway. I look more at people's post count and account age.

If I'm looking for trustworthiness, I just check people's post history and see what they've been talking about/doing.

 

[oxonbeef]

Rep does not necessarily make anyone reputable.
I have my home, business addresses and telephone
numbers on my websites.

 

[Kickflip]

I think it would help alot if REP can only be given to the ORIGINAL POSTER. That would stop a lot of BS.

That isn't the point of the reputation system, and that isn't the point of this thread. The point is that the mods feel that people are repping for no other reason, then to increase their reputation themselves through a "rep for rep" system. Whether spoken or unspoken, it does feel sometimes like its respectful to "return the favor" when someone reps you, and you don't want that person to feel like you ignored their "+rep".

Sure, the appropriate thing to do is probably PM them and say "Thanks for the rep. I really appreciate that", but sometimes I use it as an opportunity to browse that persons recent posts, and if they have been answering a lot of questions by noobs, or recently made a very long post to help someone out, and I notice their rep is quite low, then yes I think they deserve a legitimate rep at that point.

If I browse their posts, and don't see many worthwhile contributions, I might stalk them for a bit and wait to see if they do something good. I want people to be encouraged to post more, and giving them a monster +rep is a great way to do it. Anyways, I have said my bit, and I just don't want this thread to scare people. If you can justify the rep you are giving, keep giving it. I would rather people make quality shares and posts TRYING to get rep, then not make any quality posts at all. As long as they don't blatantly ask for it, and don't threaten to stop sharing due to lack of rep, I have no problem with "rep bait" posts.

Edit for more clarification on my thoughts:
My personal philosophy is, when you find yourself repping the same member repeatedly, think about how that reputation looks to other members of the forum. That rep could be misconstrued as you vouching for that member indirectly.

 

[davids355]

I'm gonna be nervous about giving anyone rep now

 

[meathead1234]

Finally, do remember, if you ARE consistently giving rep to the same person, make sure you would "vouch" for them up to $5,000 or so. If you wouldn't personally put your own money up, or your account on the line for them, do they REALLY deserve your repeated +reps? I trust some people on the forum that much, and I have never met any of them in real life before.

Kickflip,

While I appreciate your interest and feedback on the thread, please refrain from giving advice that isn't actually a formal rule. If you would like to become a mod, feel free to fill in a staff application.

There is no requirement to be able to "vouch" for someone up to "$5000 or so" in order to give rep. Nor is there any requirement to give someone rep regularly, just that YOU feel it has added value to the FORUM itself. There are people here with 0 rep I'd vouch for a lot more than $5k, and others I might rep from time to time who I wouldn't vouch for at all, I just like their contributions.

And to reiterate: the problem here is a circle of people repping each other. Nothing else. It was just a public warning to those people that are doing it to stop. We know who you all are, so no-one needs to come in here and make justifications, nor excuses.

Thanks!

 

[davids355]

Fair enough meathead. I'm gonna be as tight as ... Well I'm gonna be conservative with the rep deliverance from now on

 

[Kickflip]

While I appreciate your interest and feedback on the thread, please refrain from giving advice that isn't actually a formal rule.

Sure, just trying to give people more ways to think about how their actions effect people. Never meant for anyone to think its a rule, just trying to open their minds to my personal philosophy, and nothing more. I thought it came across as such, but if not I apologize.

 

[meathead1234]

Fair enough meathead. I'm gonna be as tight as ... Well I'm gonna be conservative with the rep deliverance from now on

For the record... you aren't one of them and I would actually feel confident vouching for you anyway.

Please continue giving rep as you feel fit. I am NOT telling anyone to stop giving rep.

Just don't get a bunch of friends together to "return the favour" in order to continuously increase your own rep

 

[davids355]

For the record... you aren't one of them and I would actually feel confident vouching for you anyway.

Please continue giving rep as you feel fit. I am NOT telling anyone to stop giving rep.

Just don't get a bunch of friends together to "return the favour" in order to continuously increase your own rep

Ah cheers meathead I was just getting paranoid!!

 

[meathead1234]

ewwwww!

To all:

This is a prime example of a post that deserves neg rep

 

[oxonbeef]

ewwwww!

To all:

This is a prime example of a post that deserves neg rep

That's just a knob post.
I de-rep for disinformation, abuse and spam.
You got to post some good shit to get some rep out of me.