Toyo is a theif!

[winordietrying]

I think OP is more concerned about warning others not to do business with you rather than getting you banned. I think he has every right to post this (if it's true), and since you're not denying it, it doesn't look good.

Wanna clear things up for your BHW brothers?

You would be surprised how many trusted members have been found out to be scammers over the time winordietrying.

Not accusing anyone, just saying.

True, but why would someone jeopardize their hard earned reputation here for a meager 4K. So let's give Toyo the benefit of doubt.

 

[Danny1111]

complete BS

toyo should be banned if he can't produce something to the contrary and it seems pretty clear so far

... of course there are two sides to every story so I am waiting for the other side.

 

[jass11]

Hey
why wouldnt you clearly state your case and let the MOD's close the thread ?
Also if for any reasons you are having delay for starting the work then you should clearly tell those to OP
as 4k$ is a quite big amount and anyone can be pissed of if you dont answer the chats after recieveing so much money.


or did you really scam him.
??

 

[july23]

Lets not label Toyo as a scammer. Anyone can create an account here an accuse a trusted member here of anything. But now it's up to Toyo to prove OP wrong.

Have you even bothered to read TOYO last lines??
Le me quote it for you:

This deal was done completely outside of BHW, so a shitlist claim within BHW does not stand as per the rules, and posting of Bank Account details and other personal details is NOT ALLOWED.

I hope this thread gets deleted soon.

Its obvious that he already admitted it and even asked to remove his personal info. why would he ask to remove it, if t wasn't his info. at first place.

Also i didn't read the OP mention that the transaction was done outside BHW, how did he know it?? obviously because he was it.

 

[DigiWebUk]

The OP'S first post is in the shit list and some of you guys are already calling Toyo a scammer? Get a grip...

Wait until Toyo explains it in more detail. and no i aint related in any way with Toyo

Just so many jump to conclusions so fast...

I do wonder sometimes if anyone on here has any brains..

 

[Chees]

not taking sides but why wouldnt Toyo mail the 10mil if everything was legit w/ the client? 10mil is not that much.

 

[winordietrying]

I mailed for him, but given the type of mailing he wanted, the IPs got canned fast by all the ISPs.

Is that your explanation? I don't know much about email spamming, but you shouldn't have taken the job if you already knew this would happen.

 

[Black.Star]

 

[richcamp]

One is a senior member with more than a thousand post, the other one is whatsisname with zero post. None offers any proof except one chat log that can easily be altered.

Unless the accusation is substantiated in any shape or form, I dont think Toyo has to proof anything to anyone

 

[proxygo]

personally with that amount involved
i wouldn't have wired the whole amount
just common sense.
but figure this. he took the money then
deleted the buyer . conclusion ?

 

[Starcodes]

dude i could of mass mail for you for half of that amount don't ever send anyone that amount of money without taking all types of security measures first bro

 

[winordietrying]

personally with that amount involved
i wouldn't have wired the whole amount
just common sense.

Yep, that's very stupid! Who pays 100% in advance! Even if the freelancer lives in the same city as yours!

 

[july23]

I mailed for him, but given the type of mailing he wanted, the IPs got canned fast by all the ISPs. I never did pump and dump before, but looks like the mail ISPs are pretty vigilant on this type of mailing.

so enough reason to dump the guy after paying then??

 

[winordietrying]

This whole thing sounds very messy. Both parties should open a communication channel and try to resolve this issue in private and then report here only after that. I think the fact that they are not replying anymore is because they might probably be doing just that.

 

[Black.Star]

Cool facts about Toyo.

Bachelor of Law (Honours)
FACULTY OF BUSINESS AND LAW (FBL)

Source

personal information

So Toyo took up law and is a faculty of business and law. how cool is that

anyway $4000 is alot... Toyo, please answer our question if you did it or not.

Would you please stop posting personal informations in this thread?
ffs...

 

[richcamp]

Oh please cos hes got over a thousand post means what? its means jack shite, if he so didnt scam the guy or whatever, he should be here posting the real details of what happened to clear his name.

Get over yourself about a member having thousand of posts that doesnt mean you cant scam someone

Good job on twisting my words.

 

[tygrus]

If you didn't like the guys illegal "venture", why didn't you just decline and return his money.

And OP, how could you be so naive as to send someone $4k all at once. Why didn't you try a test for a few hundred bucks. Its been proven on here that it doesn't matter how many posts you have or your rep, scammers come in all shapes and sizes.

 

[Chees]

Another questions is - did they both discuss a refund? before starting to flame each other in public?
Also it seems to me that OP is too naive. Ive seen "buyers" like that before - they actually try to use for their money laundry scheme and send you a large sum - just a thought.

 

[Kurushing]

Read the rules before you post.



http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...fore-opening-shit-list-thread-get-banned.html



http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/shit-list/117176-shit-list-rules.html


This deal was done completely outside of BHW, so a shitlist claim within BHW does not stand as per the rules, and posting of Bank Account details and other personal details is not allowed.

I hope this thread gets deleted soon.

One is a senior member with more than a thousand post, the other one is whatsisname with zero post. None offers any proof except one chat log that can easily be altered.

Unless the accusation is substantiated in any shape or form, I dont think Toyo has to proof anything to anyone

if toyo haven't done anything wrong with this one why is he so over protective?

 

[sukataetumba]

looks like another one bites the dust