Youtube can suck my ****

[shawnericcannon]

i recently became a youtube partner last month. i did good for my first month getting $40 so today i get a email saying my account has been banned due to fraud clicks.. this is bullshit.. i send in a ticket stating i never once clicked my ads and a story of why i didnt do any fraud and they reply with our records show there was false activity... like wtf.... so now i can never make a adsense account again all because sum a**hole decides to spam my ads

 

[Kickflip]

Why are you so angry with YouTube? Shouldn't you be angry with the person who caused invalid clicks? Perhaps it was the niche your videos are in that caused a higher percentage of invalid clicks than normal. $40 in first month is pretty high. How many views were your videos getting? What kind of niche were they in? Were you getting views from mostly asian countries?

 

[izSpK]

The YouTube staff is VERY immature, I'll tell you that. Smart, maybe - immature, definitely.

 

[Kickflip]

The YouTube staff is VERY immature, I'll tell you that. Smart, maybe - immature, definitely.

Well it wouldn't be the YouTube staff who had anything to do with this. It was the adsense/adwords department.

 

[Csmith0808]

I agree that they are unfair and hasty. If they don't think you should get the money then don't pay that month, but don't be d***'s and ban the whole adsense account. Pathetic.

 

[TermsB]

Looking at some of your more recent posts, I noticed that you were seeking to buy YouTube views. If you did indeed buy views it is very possible that they were the ones clicking on your ads, which resulted in you getting banned.

 

[Kickflip]

I agree that they are unfair and hasty. If they don't think you should get the money then don't pay that month, but don't be d***'s and ban the whole adsense account. Pathetic.

That is how adsense/adwords makes their money. Advertisers have faith that Google is better than any other company at catching invalid clicks which means that they can be sure that nearly every click they get is actually a qualified lead. If Google put up with any shit from Publishers, Google would lose out on so much business. They aren't being dicks, they are being smart. Is it frustrating? Yes. But that is the nature of online business. Things can be gone in a second and you are left shit out of luck.

 

[Csmith0808]

That is how adsense/adwords makes their money. Advertisers have faith that Google is better than any other company at catching invalid clicks which means that they can be sure that nearly every click they get is actually a qualified lead. If Google put up with any shit from Publishers, Google would lose out on so much business. They aren't being dicks, they are being smart. Is it frustrating? Yes. But that is the nature of online business. Things can be gone in a second and you are left shit out of luck.

Still think they are dicks

 

[Kickflip]

Still think they are dicks

Why? Because you are unreasonable and don't understand that adsense isn't designed to be used by members of a blackhat forum? If you are a member of this website, even if you consider yourself completely whitehat, adsense just may not be the right platform for your business IF you are going to get extremely upset with them when your account gets banned.

It sucks to get banned and not know exactly why, but it isn't like Google is advertising themselves as Customer Service of the Year candidates. They protect the people who pay for the clicks, as they should. They have no obligation to Publishers to risk their entire business model for them, and any Publisher who assumes they have a right to know EXACTLY why they were banned needs to avoid adsense.

Google is too big. It is a faceless company. It can be great income for the right person, but 98% of people will never make it to their first cashout for 1 reason or another.

I just don't get how they are dicks.

 

[sirgold]

Why ppl are trying to go legit with YT, I'll never understand. But, good luck...

 

[c0ntenth|ef]

lets get the facts, this is a blackhat forum and you probably did something blackhat like buying views as mentioned above and are angry to get banned from YT/adsense?

 

[reedcy]

I have to agree and disagree respectively one the hand they are dicks google is king of the assholes suspending accounts without telling exactly why is just very bad business. Just because they control the entire internet it doesn't give them to right to do whatever. If pepsi gave you a bad soda you would still want your money back right? They should at least tell were they're illegitimate clicks came from. That doesn't hurt them at to atleast give a report showing the illegitimate clicks origin. The way the handle business is just pure shitty and they don't protect people who are buying clicks at all if you buy ppc you know that's pure bullshit.
BUT on the other hand you shouldn't be really mad about it like that because if you're whole business depended on adsense from youtube then you didn't have a business to began with making an adsense account is like making email if you're from bhw so you should of had this same strategy across a couple of different accounts and also another form of monetization (ADSENSE?) really.

 

[Abstroose]

Still think they are dicks

Lol awesome attitude. :arms:

 

[Kickflip]

I have to agree and disagree respectively one the hand they are dicks google is king of the assholes suspending accounts without telling exactly why is just very bad business. Just because they control the entire internet it doesn't give them to right to do whatever. If pepsi gave you a bad soda you would still want your money back right? They should at least tell were they're illegitimate clicks came from. That doesn't hurt them at to atleast give a report showing the illegitimate clicks origin. The way the handle business is just pure shitty and they don't protect people who are buying clicks at all if you buy ppc you know that's pure bullshit.

WTF?

Comparing a bad soda from Pepsi, which is a physical product which you paid money for, to Google which is providing you with a business opportunity? Customer Service relies on the fact that the company wants you to return and do repeat business with them again. Google doesn't want you to return and therefore has no obligation of customer service or explanation.

For Google to give you any kind of report about why you were banned DOES indeed risk a lot for Google. Don't you think that the users who are actually doing fraud would be able to analyze the reports and use them to better hide their tracks to commit further fraud? By keeping all of the information secret and not disclosing any more then they feel obligated to, they have better ability to track people committing fraud.

You are saying that by banning people who create invalid clicks, that doesn't help people doing adwords campaigns? Have you lost your mind? You think people would be just as well off or better if Google just allow everyone to mass click on ads and charge the companies for those clicks? How does that make sense at all?

 

[shawnericcannon]

I never once bought views, i was getting over 1000 views a day and for the videos i made they were mostly comedy videos and vlogs

 

[reedcy]

WTF?

Comparing a bad soda from Pepsi, which is a physical product which you paid money for, to Google which is providing you with a business opportunity? Customer Service relies on the fact that the company wants you to return and do repeat business with them again. Google doesn't want you to return and therefore has no obligation of customer service or explanation.

For Google to give you any kind of report about why you were banned DOES indeed risk a lot for Google. Don't you think that the users who are actually doing fraud would be able to analyze the reports and use them to better hide their tracks to commit further fraud? By keeping all of the information secret and not disclosing any more then they feel obligated to, they have better ability to track people committing fraud.

You are saying that by banning people who create invalid clicks, that doesn't help people doing adwords campaigns? Have you lost your mind? You think people would be just as well off or better if Google just allow everyone to mass click on ads and charge the companies for those clicks? How does that make sense at all?

Im saying that they should and yes it could improve someone who's doing frauds performance but they still should give it point blank it's business not do
what ever google says. You guys kill me with justifying the bullshit google does and saying oh there doing to make stuff better NOT AT ALL. yes they are making smart business moves but it's not helping either side and anybody in youtube knows that they ban stuff unfairly all the time you can't do anything about it but you can't lie to everyone saying they did it for a valid reason because they more than likely didn't have any reason at all.

 

[Annah]

I really do not get why would you work your arse to create videos, add descriptions containing CPA ads or whatever (or do it the other way - buy software that does it for you... in a way) basically making a shitload of money for YouTube first rather than for yourself, when there are simpler and extremely effective ways to do it the other way around.

Quick explanation point :

1. YOUTUBE -> SHOWS ADS <- Because they can.
2. YOU -> STRIVE TO SHOW ADS THROUGH YOUTUBE <- Because you want to make some money.

Your own ads will always have less than 10% visibility on page (at best) on a YouTube page.

Just watch a page with a video and try to picture your link in the description. Sit back and watch the page, look - Forward - Left - Right - Up - Down. How many distractions can you notice? How many are owned by YouTube and how many are owned by you? (I am analyzing this part without going into detail)

So in my honest opinion I think you make 10 times more money (in a very bad day) for YouTube than you do for yourself. So efficiency is oh so bad.


If you get to the point where you create/upload/...etc you need proxies/accounts/software, and above all to ability to run such campaigns effectively; and even against the odds you can make decent amounts of money for yourself. But keep in mind, you made 10 times more money to YouTube.

BUT what IF you can actually change the order. Your ads first, the YT's ads? How efficient will that be for your wallet?

The method is out there. You can actually do it in this particular way.

 

[Csmith0808]

Why? Because you are unreasonable and don't understand that adsense isn't designed to be used by members of a blackhat forum? If you are a member of this website, even if you consider yourself completely whitehat, adsense just may not be the right platform for your business IF you are going to get extremely upset with them when your account gets banned.

It sucks to get banned and not know exactly why, but it isn't like Google is advertising themselves as Customer Service of the Year candidates. They protect the people who pay for the clicks, as they should. They have no obligation to Publishers to risk their entire business model for them, and any Publisher who assumes they have a right to know EXACTLY why they were banned needs to avoid adsense.

Google is too big. It is a faceless company. It can be great income for the right person, but 98% of people will never make it to their first cashout for 1 reason or another.

I just don't get how they are dicks.

They are no longer dick's

 

[c0ntenth|ef]

one reason why they dont reveal their specific reasons about the fraud clicks is the people can find out what they did wrong and not repeat that method again which is bad for google because they revealed their secret of finding out.