Permanently Closed Marketplace Sales Thread

[awtprod]

Maybe I have missed it, but are there any reviews for this product? What changes in SERPs are seen when using this product? Also, does this work on competitive keywords?

 

[charlot]

If you got no open spots i'd like to reserve one for when you do. If that's possible. Ty

 

[ExtraWinner]

Maybe I have missed it, but are there any reviews for this product? What changes in SERPs are seen when using this product? Also, does this work on competitive keywords?

Few pages before.

If you got no open spots i'd like to reserve one for when you do. If that's possible. Ty

We are re-opening in 3 weeks with redesigned version of this.

Here is subscription for waiting list:

Sign up here for Waiting List

 

[Shah456]

I told you already that few people have this problems, and its hard to determine why 30+ people from Network 1 rank sky high, and ~15 people have problems to move.

We think its Social element missing, and that is why we are adding for free all customers of Black Hole to our new service that is more social oriented - Black Hole SEO 2.0

With this bad boy every member will receive EACH week following:

5x5x5 web 2.0 pyramid
Submission to top 5 private blog networks
Submission to 1.000+ article directories
125 High PR Manual Bookmarks
50 Angela style high PR manual backlinks
100+ Wiki Sites submission
10.000 blog comments to supercharge link pyramid

As you can see this is a lot - and this will be given for free to all members, including yourself.
Initial tests moved our dummy site in just 2 weeks from page 4-5 to page 1 for keyword that receives 240.000+ exact searches each month.

Also be aware - we are so confident of our methods, that if until next payment you wont see any movement, then we will gladly refund you.
Happiness of our customers is #1 for us.

EW

I too have seen no movement of my keywords. I kind of want a refund, I was expecting a lot more out of this.

 

[ExtraWinner]

I too have seen no movement of my keywords. I kind of want a refund, I was expecting a lot more out of this.

Hi.

Once again - no SEO service will work for all customers.
This is why we are upgrading all our customers to Black Hole SEO 2.0 for free.
And this why we are providing full refund policy after completion of 4 months if you are not happy with results

I am on biz trip to Gibraltar looking for offices.
I will be back on Saturday, and update then about Beta testing - I have 2 spots left for you guys.
Also we will have some BHW staff reviewing this.

EW

 

[sahilsxy29]

Can I have a spot ?
I've already asked for the reservation before also

 

[hatcheck]

Hi.

Once again - no SEO service will work for all customers.
This is why we are upgrading all our customers to Black Hole SEO 2.0 for free.
And this why we are providing full refund policy after completion of 4 months if you are not happy with results

I already canceled at the end of last month after two months. I never did receive my second month's report. My SERPS actually dropped since signing on with your service, and I'm convinced that the search engines are penalizing your approach, particularly your practice of putting half a dozen or more links pointing to the same page on my site from each page on your site you built for me. That's a big red flag to them.

It's telling that none of the pages you created for me are cached in Google, even though I submitted them all via Linklicious in early August. That means that Google doesn't consider them worthy of being scored in the index for PageRank purposes.

I suspect you won't refund me since I didn't fork over four months in payments, but I would welcome a refund anyway.

By the way, you previously complained that I hadn't contacted you privately via Skype about all this. While I did try contacting you numerous times via email (messages which were largely ignored), I have since done so via Skype as well, although we haven't successfully connected yet, due to your recent move to Spain and my own busy schedule. I re-initiated contact via Skype today and am awaiting your reply.

 

[ezlegion]

Hi hatcheck,
It's a real shame you didn't stay longer, many of the strongest results came after the 3rd month.

I doubt the search engines are even noticing what EW is doing because:
A) EW knows what he's doing (there's plenty of proof around to confirm that)
B) The internet is that big and has that many sites using quite varied backlinking techniques that the search engines can't possibly keep track of it all to such an acute extent

Anyways, if you're unhappy that's not good and EW will look after you. I know he'll be offline a lot today but when he's back I'm sure he'll sort you out

You are very welcome to pm me if you want if you need some re-assurance or just a chat

I already canceled at the end of last month after two months. I never did receive my second month's report. My SERPS actually dropped since signing on with your service, and I'm convinced that the search engines are penalizing your approach, particularly your practice of putting half a dozen or more links pointing to the same page on my site from each page on your site you built for me. That's a big red flag to them.

It's telling that none of the pages you created for me are cached in Google, even though I submitted them all via Linklicious in early August. That means that Google doesn't consider them worthy of being scored in the index for PageRank purposes.

I suspect you won't refund me since I didn't fork over four months in payments, but I would welcome a refund anyway.

By the way, you previously complained that I hadn't contacted you privately via Skype about all this. While I did try contacting you numerous times via email (messages which were largely ignored), I have since done so via Skype as well, although we haven't successfully connected yet, due to your recent move to Spain and my own busy schedule. I re-initiated contact via Skype today and am awaiting your reply.

 

[jorji]

ExtraWinner,
here is the thing: I have been a customer for full 3 months, I am not crying and throlling about your service BEFORE I get the chance to see if it's working or not. The things I didn't like and the main reason I drop the service on the
4th month I already stated above. I can't stay more to see any improvements because, when I checked the created websites:
1) most of them are offline
2) there are actually more links of competitors websites than mine
3) the price is quite high, i expected rapid improvements, even on the 3rd month the results are far for great!

Point me at least one domain created through the first month of network one with good rankings in any seo monitoring site such as compete/opensiteexplorer. Why there is no movement? Perhaps not only the quality of the articles is quite low (auto spinned text i guess) but you are using BRAND new domains. These domains will be frozen for google for quite long. I don't mean to offend you but really perhaps it's better to offer less domains (like 100 domains total) and improve the quality of these domins like investing in aged domains, better hosting and high quality manualy checked/written articles. Having pictures will not make any difference to those articles. Don't think that if you give rights to anyone to write content in these sites, the quality content will pop up itself.

I expected more from this service because I am using very similar service (same concept, less properties with higher rank aged domains) for a site and the results were amazing in just a few months the improvements were huge. Can't say the same for this service, just not worth the money.

Guys remember, this service could work just perfect for you, depends on what you have and what you expect. This is just my point of view. I have way better options to spend on SEO and feel like just throwed 300$ in the trash.

 

[ezlegion]

Hi jorji,
It is a shame that you feel you've wasted your money, no-one with any concept of decency wants that for any other member of BHW, whether you are a newbie or not.

Bart is offline for most of today but he will look after you. I've got +ve results from this service but when I received Bart's on site seo report I had to make a lot of changes. Maybe that is part of the problem?

With regard to the links/sites being offline temporarily or being brand new this will have little detrimental effect. It is the same for the 'quality' of the content on those sites, they're meant for spiders not humans, yes you definitely need top quality content on your money site but it's not necessary on a site that's just channeling juice.

The main thing here though is to make sure that you're sorted out to a point where you've got your money's worth, Bart will look after you.

ExtraWinner,
here is the thing: I have been a customer for full 3 months, I am not crying and throlling about your service BEFORE I get the chance to see if it's working or not. The things I didn't like and the main reason I drop the service on the
4th month I already stated above. I can't stay more to see any improvements because, when I checked the created websites:
1) most of them are offline
2) there are actually more links of competitors websites than mine
3) the price is quite high, i expected rapid improvements, even on the 3rd month the results are far for great!

Point me at least one domain created through the first month of network one with good rankings in any seo monitoring site such as compete/opensiteexplorer. Why there is no movement? Perhaps not only the quality of the articles is quite low (auto spinned text i guess) but you are using BRAND new domains. These domains will be frozen for google for quite long. I don't mean to offend you but really perhaps it's better to offer less domains (like 100 domains total) and improve the quality of these domins like investing in aged domains, better hosting and high quality manualy checked/written articles. Having pictures will not make any difference to those articles. Don't think that if you give rights to anyone to write content in these sites, the quality content will pop up itself.

I expected more from this service because I am using very similar service (same concept, less properties with higher rank aged domains) for a site and the results were amazing in just a few months the improvements were huge. Can't say the same for this service, just not worth the money.

Guys remember, this service could work just perfect for you, depends on what you have and what you expect. This is just my point of view. I have way better options to spend on SEO and feel like just throwed 300$ in the trash.

 

[MickMcG]

hey bart, have resent PM again, this is the third time trying to get anything from u, so far the only thing i have received about the service is the first months report and yet the 2nd and 3rd months payments have been taken and u have assured me a couple times now that u would send all other information that i havent received? please get back to me asap.

 

[ezlegion]

Hi there MickMcG,
I apologize on EW's behalf, there's no doubt you should get what you've paid for.

If EW doesn't get the relevant reports to you asap you can pm & pester me and I will pester him for you.
He should be back online today to take of this for you.

hey bart, have resent PM again, this is the third time trying to get anything from u, so far the only thing i have received about the service is the first months report and yet the 2nd and 3rd months payments have been taken and u have assured me a couple times now that u would send all other information that i havent received? please get back to me asap.

 

[daves00000]

Bart

Re: Network 1

Have just sent you a PM, can you please answer me as a matter of urgency.

Many thanks

 

[origami]

Hi Guys,
Im on network 2 and so far no movement in the keywords.
I know im on competitive ones but still i was hoping to see some movement in the keywords by now.
I will give it another month b4 jumping to conclusions
Thanks

 

[bhlon]

I think its fair to say that people are experiencing similar things. However, i like many others who have not posted previously on the thread are prepared to play the longer game and see where it takes us. EW is convinced of his testing and threoretics so i am prepared to put my faith in his better knowledge.

I also recognise that he has alot going on with his new product which i suspect adds a new angle to this product. At $97pm with a refund policy in place, i still think its worth holding on and see where it goes. Like every business, there may be mistakes or changes needed but these are often worked around from my experience, often better than the initial concept.

Having bought other services too, i am also balancing out what i could get for $97...not a lot as i have lots of keywords.

Faith makes all things possible.

 

[hatcheck]

I doubt the search engines are even noticing what EW is doing because:
A) EW knows what he's doing (there's plenty of proof around to confirm that)
B) The internet is that big and has that many sites using quite varied backlinking techniques that the search engines can't possibly keep track of it all to such an acute extent

I don't buy it, ezlegion. All the claims about "plenty of proof" aside (personally, I've only seen claims, never the actual proof itself), your assertion that the search engines don't even know what he's doing is belied by the fact that the pages aren't being cached. Period.

For instance, I just did some SEO work on a brand new 45 page website for a plumber. It was launched in August, with a ton of SEO flaws (the designer was a friend of mine who knows nothing about SEO), and it still managed to get indexed, although the flaws were so bad that only a couple pages got cached. I did my stuff on it at the end of August (basic, on-page SEO, nothing fancy: titles, h1, meta description, text, etc.), and submitted it to linklicious. It's now about three weeks later, and already most of the revised site is re-indexed and cached in Google. This is a brand new site, mind you!

By comparison, EW's sites are all older, yet Google is refusing to cache hardly any of his pages. Ask yourself why? Then, please answer that question here and explain how this does NOT prove that Google's algorithm is aware of what he is doing.

I claim that the failure of his pages to be cached proves that the search engines are already aware of what he's doing and have built-in algorithmic steps taken against it, which will prevent EW's customers from succeeding.

 

[RAYRAY7]

I don't buy it, ezlegion. All the claims about "plenty of proof" aside (personally, I've only seen claims, never the actual proof itself), your assertion that the search engines don't even know what he's doing is belied by the fact that the pages aren't being cached. Period.

For instance, I just did some SEO work on a brand new 45 page website for a plumber. It was launched in August, with a ton of SEO flaws (the designer was a friend of mine who knows nothing about SEO), and it still managed to get indexed, although the flaws were so bad that only a couple pages got cached. I did my stuff on it at the end of August (basic, on-page SEO, nothing fancy: titles, h1, meta description, text, etc.), and submitted it to linklicious. It's now about three weeks later, and already most of the revised site is re-indexed and cached in Google. This is a brand new site, mind you!

By comparison, EW's sites are all older, yet Google is refusing to cache hardly any of his pages. Ask yourself why? Then, please answer that question here and explain how this does NOT prove that Google's algorithm is aware of what he is doing.

I claim that the failure of his pages to be cached proves that the search engines are already aware of what he's doing and have built-in algorithmic steps taken against it, which will prevent EW's customers from succeeding.

The next Google PR update should confirm if your theory is right. The sites used must rank for them to be able to pass on any link juice to members sites.

Since we have a money back guarantee, that is why I said six months will be a good judge of how effective this method is.

 

[ExtraWinner]

Hi Guys.

Sorry for late reply, but I am away till Friday.

I need to explain few things to you:

1) This service works really good - multiple people are happy, and are pre-ordering new opening. This is a strong proof.
2) After doing tests, and seeing some sites are not moving, I decided with huge effort to add quality and diversify it, by offering you completely free spot in Black Hole 2.
3) On top of that - we have money refund policy. If after completion of full 4 months you will see no results or you are unhappy - we will refund you fully.
4) Our websites are not regular blog network. We build our sites just to BUFFER link juice, not to get them powerful and stuff. We blast daily all our sites, and thus passing link juice to you.
Every service requires changes - and we know this.
For us if we have 150 customers, in which 125 are active, and 30 not seeing results (this is still less than 30%) we acknowledge that further steps in increasing quality are needed.
We are coming ahead of all our customers offering totally free service worth $600 on free market, offering money back guarantee, and offering top notch customer service.
If this didn't worked out for you - tough luck - we will refund you, shake hands, and stay friends.
All people that done some business with me can confirm - if I cant help in your case, then I will always refund you money.
That's the way I work - always.
I am bit surprised that even seeing us going ahead, and offering bunch of freebies, money back guarantee, and personalized customer service (my skype is available in thread) I see people complaining (not on results - that understandable, but on organization).
If you have problems with ranking - buzz me and I will gladly look at your site, determine where is a problem, and find solution - simple inter-human communication.

Again - Beta starts on 19th, freebies will be send out to all members on 26th.

Freebie will include, but will be not limited to:

5x5x5 web 2.0 pyramid
Submission to top 5 private blog networks
Submission to 1.000+ article directories
125 High PR Manual Bookmarks
50 Angela style high PR manual backlinks
100+ Wiki Sites submission
10.000 blog comments to supercharge link pyramid

- they will be blasted weekly to any site you like for as long as you are our member.
If this addon wont help to rank your site, then I dont know what will, and I will gladly refund you.

I will try to go through all PMs now.

EW

 

[potatosRgr8]

cool beans

 

[pangolin123]

i am just starting to be on page 2, 15th position for a very competitive keyword. This service really works and I am only on my 2nd month. Give it some more time and make sure your site is already optimized for the keywords you are targeting for. No amount of SEO will help you if your site isn't optimized well enough.