A nifty sounding method to make $500 a day-Idiot Proof

[KenWingJitsu]

All you fucking people with your "I don't think this will work because..."

lol. I can tell who doesn't make any money.

I can pretty much guarantee this works if you do everything on this thread, especially send extra traffic to reduce conversions.

But keep finding reasons why it won't work lol. This is one of the best posts ever on this site... you can use it for other paid products as well besides AFF. But some of you want to keep spinning your wheels about why it wouldn't work, while i laugh at you.

 

[Morpheus]

KenWingJitsu,

Laugh all you want. "I can pretty much guarantee this works" is a pretty worthless statement. Most smart marketers would leave it at "seems like a good idea, let's test it and find out". Conjecture is worthless. Do it. If it works, then laugh. Or you may find out that you were wrong. In any case it's best to know from actual testing rather than assuming you are smarter and more experienced than the folks you replied to.

 

[graphicnut]

Fraud, Fraud and more Fraud. Old as fook method, did this about 6 years ago

 

[matapples01]

I'm gonna have to go with Ken. It may be stupid and old as fuck buy why won't it work?

You're using vcc's-untraceable back to you
You sending them a direct link-no referrer issues
They're signing up themselves with their own info and IP-no calling you out for signing up your own leads

The conversion issue WILL come up but how far down the line? After $5-10K in commissions, most people would accept getting kicked out of the aff program as a profitable risk/reward. We're not talking building a long-term relationship with AFF here.

Even if you don't like the overall idea with AFF, the use of the VCC's is a pretty good nugget of information by itself. Using them just as a way to give a kickback for incentivizable offers in the whiter hat arena works too.

 

[stunna]

Yea the VCC explanation was definitely worth it.

Are VCCs ideal for signing up for those $1.99 trial type things as well?

You could probably sign for a whole bunch of them and not even worry about cancelling.

 

[shithappens]

What I liked in that email was this part: Click on it and it will bring you onto the page to download the toolbar. Simply download it for free, and install it. It's from PayPal - it's safe.

Yeah sure :d

 

[fun4uoc]

This does work, I myself have done it. I'm a little disappointed to see this here because now it seems this will come to an end. Whats going to happen is a bunch of noobs are going to get a hold of this and be stupid about it by doing this 5 to 10 times at a pop, and having near 100% conversion rates, throwing up major red flags at AFF and they will put an end to it. Greedy people always end up ruining a lot of the good money makers.

 

[manudevil20]

This does work, I myself have done it. I'm a little disappointed to see this here because now it seems this will come to an end. Whats going to happen is a bunch of noobs are going to get a hold of this and be stupid about it by doing this 5 to 10 times at a pop, and having near 100% conversion rates, throwing up major red flags at AFF and they will put an end to it. Greedy people always end up ruining a lot of the good money makers.

Yeah the can screw up AFF though. I am not going to do this for AFF. You can do this with any dating, porn, webcams site. AFF just happens to pay the most. If you use this smartly than there is no way you can get caught. And i tried to find the VCC from paypal and it doesnt look like they offer it anymore. I found this site though.

http://www.websitemarketplace.net/vcc.php

My idea was getting the $25 card. Use it on 5 different sites as a $4.95 trial and than buy another one.

 

[Nick Flame]

All you fucking people with your "I don't think this will work because..."

You are so funny, when this method was released for noobs in an ebook- like several months ago, or something - i got at least 20 messages from people who got banned and asking me what they can do to reinstate them or get their money ...

Let me put it to you this way: Webcam companies pays you 30-40$ per sign up (or 120$, however it is in the report) for a 5$ free trial. They do this, because, based on their statistics, a good percent of this 5$ free trials convert to full them paying customers.

When you will fill in this leads with vcc.... that can not be recharged again and therefore can not reconvert to full paying customers, how long will it take for the company to realise that they pay you 40$ (or 100$) for a 5$ worth of value you bring? They just take a look at your stats and see this instantly... since none of your leads pay anymore and convert.

This is NOT something you can cover up your ass by sending "cheap " traffic and maintaining conversion rates, LMAO... Plenty of noobs here... you really think that companies out there are so damn stupid?

Get 10 vcc leads, that do not convert anymore, and you are pretty much guaranteed to get banned.

 

[fun4uoc]

Nick, with all due respect, this can be done successfully. Is there a risk of getting banned, sure there is, as there is with just about every other method on this site. I have been doing this for a couple of months and have not been banned yet. Of course none of the vcc's can be used again but AFF gives you the option to change cards and I have had people sign up with their own card after their membership expired. That along with the fact that I also send regular free and paid memberships their way.

 

[manudevil20]

You are so funny, when this method was released for noobs in an ebook- like several months ago, or something - i got at least 20 messages from people who got banned and asking me what they can do to reinstate them or get their money ...

Let me put it to you this way: Webcam companies pays you 30-40$ per sign up (or 120$, however it is in the report) for a 5$ free trial. They do this, because, based on their statistics, a good percent of this 5$ free trials convert to full them paying customers.

When you will fill in this leads with vcc.... that can not be recharged again and therefore can not reconvert to full paying customers, how long will it take for the company to realise that they pay you 40$ (or 100$) for a 5$ worth of value you bring? They just take a look at your stats and see this instantly... since none of your leads pay anymore and convert.

This is NOT something you can cover up your ass by sending "cheap " traffic and maintaining conversion rates, LMAO... Plenty of noobs here... you really think that companies out there are so damn stupid?

Get 10 vcc leads, that do not convert anymore, and you are pretty much guaranteed to get banned.

I agree with you mostly. But if you ALREADY have steady hits and have people that are paying for a trial and converting to full than its not like you have nobody converting is it? I hope you understand what i am saying. Im not trying to disagree i am just making a point.

 

[lonny41]

Personally I don't see the point in this type of fraud, or CPA fraud either. There are so many legit ways to make money with these companies and some actual work. This hurts every one in the end. I'm not talking morals here, I have a few but could really give a shit when it comes to making money. The problem I have is it hurts everyone in the long term, the short term gain to a few individuals doesn't pay for everyone else. Not to mention that I'm sure a lot of companies watch this board and read all this stupid shit. It's not like they're not wise to it.

I got a few emails from COPEAC this week, they were notices of some offers shutting down due to fraud.....it's all pointless and stupid.

Do some work and make cash long term.

 

[unlimitedpostings]

Nickflame is right. This may work for a little bit of quick blackhat money, but is not something you can continue making money with.

Since your VCC is on the account, it won't renew past the first month. Why do you think that AFF pays you more than the original $20 that it took to sign up? Because they expect a good amount of people to renew their subscription past the first month. At the end of the first month when all of your sign ups don't renew, red flags are going to go up all over the place.

 

[YoungGuns]

If you're gonna go through all that trouble, why don't you just sign up yourself through proxies.

After all, you're gonna get banned either way

 

[spankymcguire]

Heya, I'm a first-time poster long-time lurker here at BHW.

This is an interesting post and it originally seemed like it had potential to net some generous (if short-lived) profit. I noticed a problem, though, and was hoping for some clarification.

The $120/sign up promotion ended on October 31st. From what I could tell by looking at the AFF affilliate sign up page they now only offer $30/sign up. Minimum cost to sign up as a member of AFF is $18.95 for one month silver. That's only a profit of $10.05, and I'm sure AFF won't like the fact that all of your referrals are only silver.

So, my question is, did I miss something? Don't you ahve to pay the sign up fee for each member? Is this really worth it now that the promotion has ended?

Edit: I guess we just need someone to confirm weither or not AFF is paying at their base $30 or if they're still paying at $120.00.

 

[graphicnut]

it's fraud you blasted noobs lol. Give over will you, move on!

 

[manudevil20]

Heya, I'm a first-time poster long-time lurker here at BHW.

This is an interesting post and it originally seemed like it had potential to net some generous (if short-lived) profit. I noticed a problem, though, and was hoping for some clarification.

The $120/sign up promotion ended on October 31st. From what I could tell by looking at the AFF affilliate sign up page they now only offer $30/sign up. Minimum cost to sign up as a member of AFF is $18.95 for one month silver. That's only a profit of $10.05, and I'm sure AFF won't like the fact that all of your referrals are only silver.

So, my question is, did I miss something? Don't you ahve to pay the sign up fee for each member? Is this really worth it now that the promotion has ended?

Its more than $30. I am pretty sure its anywhere from $90 to $120 if there is no promotion going on.

 

[adrwcav]

yeah couldn't you just change your IP address each time then maybe do 1-2 signups a day for yourself while also sending some bogus traffic?

sry if this sounds like newbie Q

 

[amdoch]

Now my question after reading all this is what if i deal with cash?
Lets say the sign up cost is 20 for AFF and i only deal localy telling people I give them 25 to sign up on their own and i just hand them the cash?

There wouldnt be a way to trace it down right?

 

[ratdaddee]

lol. It's interesting to see so many black hatter's screaming fraud. Most black hat methods involve some sort of dishonesty bordering on fraud.