How to set up multiple sites on host?

[zeeipad]

Got my hosting today and got my 1 website up on it. Now I am stuck at a point. How do I add on another domain name as a separate website? I would need to have it separated from the main one and have its own wordpress template and such.

I have never done a multi site setup before.

Any links to how to do this or vids.

 

[mmur12398]

Where are you hosting and are you limited to the number of domains you can have on your hosting? Typically, you can just do an add-on domain in cpanel and install a new wordpress in fantastico. It's not that hard if you have cpanel. Not sure about the other hosting interfaces though.

 

[zeeipad]

I am on hostwinds and yes it is cpanel. I think the installer is softalicious. I got the advanced package so I am allowed 3 websites at this point. Good enough to get me started.

 

[zeeipad]

OK.. I found something. I don't think I can post links yet. Does this sound right?

"Assuming that you have a proper unlimited hosting account and you have already purchased the domains from a registrar, setting them up on your web hosting account is quick and easy. Go to your control panel (most hosts offer cPanel) and in the Domains section, click on the Addon Domains icon. In the next screen, you will see the addon domain creation interface, where you will need to complete the following fields:

• New Domain Name ? the name of the domain that you want to host, e.g.: www.mysite.com
• Subdomain/FTP Username ? the username for the account; it is completed automatically by cPanel and in most cases you can leave it as is.
• Document Root ? the location of the folder where the files of the addon domain will be hosted; it is completed automatically by cPanel and in most cases, you can leave it as is.
• Password ? the password that you will use to access the domain?s FTP account. Optionally, you can use the password generator button to create a strong password.
• Password (Again) ? repeat the password to verify it.

After you fill in all the required fields, just click on the Add Domain button and you are done. You will see the newly created domain on the bottom of the page. If needed, you can modify, delete, or redirect a previously created domain. To create a website on the new domain, you can copy the files in its subfolder, or you can install WordPress or another web application."




If this is correct... do I just take the domains namesevers and set it to the same ones I did with the first site? With installing wordpress on it, does cpanel or softalicious recognize it as a separate site somehow that I can see it is for that added site?




Sorry for the newb questions but I don't want to fug up the first website while learning.

 

[agnosticon]

I am on hostwinds and yes it is cpanel. I think the installer is softalicious. I got the advanced package so I am allowed 3 websites at this point. Good enough to get me started.

Login to cpanel & click ADDON DOMAINS.. use the domain you want to add, user/password. hit add and you are all set.

 

[Super_DL]

If this is correct... do I just take the domains namesevers and set it to the same ones I did with the first site? With installing wordpress on it, does cpanel or softalicious recognize it as a separate site somehow that I can see it is for that added site?

Yeah in your domain registers control panel just set the domain to point to the name servers as you did with the first site.

As for when it comes to installing WordPress if you are installing it through some click and install system then you should be able to select what domain to install it on.

 

[zeeipad]

Thanks everyone. Support was still there (I forgot about time zone difference) and we chatted and got me all straightened out.

So far I am loving the support over there!

 

[scourforce]

Good replies guys. Thanks for the good info for future needs.

 

[noaforce]

good information, dont forget to set name server in ur domain

 

[TekniskM]

Good feedback. This will probably come in good use soon.
Could any of you tell me why hosting "at home" is not talked about so much in here?
What are the biggest downsides of it?

 

[judson]

As a general rule, if you need to ask about hosting at home, you should not be doing it.

Anyone who does not need to ask about hosting at home, also knows that in 99.9999999% of the time, it is always the wrong choice, and it should not be done.

That leaves such a tiny proportion of cases where hosting at home makes sense, that you will rarely ever see a discussion about it.

 

[judson]

Good feedback. This will probably come in good use soon.
Could any of you tell me why hosting "at home" is not talked about so much in here?
What are the biggest downsides of it?

OK, I'll bite ... here's a tiny proportion of reasons why hosting at home is never a good idea.

a. T&C - unless you are paying big bucks for your internet connection, you will invariably have a clause in your contract with the ISP saying that you cannot have public servers running on your home line

b. Equipment - It is unlikely that you will have server grade equipment at home. Running your sites off your laptop is doable, but ...

c. Connection SLA - When the connection to the data warehouse goes down, people get woken up. People on stand-by get called in. People get fired if it happens too often. When your home internet connection goes down, you are lucky if you can get hold of a customer service assistant in Bangalore. Technician comes around when he can..

d. Redundancy - Similar to above, but different. How many phone lines on separate grids do you have coming into your home? And power? UPS + redundant generators + redundant versions of both + ..... you get the picture.

e. Bandwidth - The A in ADSL for example, means Asynchronus. That means the line is faster when download than when you upload. A server at home would be an equivalent of you uploading. So, while you might have a 5MB ADSL line, you might only have 1Mb upstream.

f. Cost - rackspace and indeed hosting in the data centres is so cheap that doing it at home will be 10 times the cost. Why bother

g. IP Addresses - Cable modems that cycle IP addresses everytime you reconnect are great for blackhat work, but will wreak havoc on your DNS if you are hosting anything on them.

I could go on, but for every reason you think you might have for hosting at home, there are 10 reasons why you shouldn't.

 

[TekniskM]

OK, I'll bite ... here's a tiny proportion of reasons why hosting at home is never a good idea.

a. T&C - unless you are paying big bucks for your internet connection, you will invariably have a clause in your contract with the ISP saying that you cannot have public servers running on your home line

b. Equipment - It is unlikely that you will have server grade equipment at home. Running your sites off your laptop is doable, but ...

c. Connection SLA - When the connection to the data warehouse goes down, people get woken up. People on stand-by get called in. People get fired if it happens too often. When your home internet connection goes down, you are lucky if you can get hold of a customer service assistant in Bangalore. Technician comes around when he can..

d. Redundancy - Similar to above, but different. How many phone lines on separate grids do you have coming into your home? And power? UPS + redundant generators + redundant versions of both + ..... you get the picture.

e. Bandwidth - The A in ADSL for example, means Asynchronus. That means the line is faster when download than when you upload. A server at home would be an equivalent of you uploading. So, while you might have a 5MB ADSL line, you might only have 1Mb upstream.

f. Cost - rackspace and indeed hosting in the data centres is so cheap that doing it at home will be 10 times the cost. Why bother

g. IP Addresses - Cable modems that cycle IP addresses everytime you reconnect are great for blackhat work, but will wreak havoc on your DNS if you are hosting anything on them.

I could go on, but for every reason you think you might have for hosting at home, there are 10 reasons why you shouldn't.

Hehe, and now you will never belive me when i say i have all that at home. I did not think that was so special?

First, I have Server grade Equipment at home, with redundancy on everything but the processor inside the server.
And UPS to watch over it.

Here in my country everyone have fiberoptics lines with around 50/50 Mbit. and we are allowed to use whatever traffic we want.

The line have not been something wrong with the last 5 years and probably will still be the best line available

All my Backups goes out of my home and in to a buddy of mine's servers a few miles from here.

I had expected more feedback like, to big risk of hacker's etc. but i did not realise that most of user just have a laptop. sorry about that.

 

[TekniskM]

a. T&C - unless you are paying big bucks for your internet connection, you will invariably have a clause in your contract with the ISP saying that you cannot have public servers running on your home line

This one makes sense. but even with my mobile internet connection that i can take with me to have internet wherever i need it is open for Public hosting. I acctually called my ISP and said I needed it to be open because i wanted to use it to hos my serveilence cam's on a remote location without possibility for internet. And they fixed it
But if i had not asked them it would not have worked without help from them.

 

[judson]

Hahahaha

I don't care what your home setup is, but I can bet it is not going to compare to a datacentre. If you ever get a chance, you should visit a data centre.

You might think everything is OK, but the biggest difference only gets noticed when something goes wrong. As long as everything is fine, you think you are OK hosting from home.

What happens when you are away on holiday and need someone to physically reboot the server? You might have UPS, but do you have backup generators? How many internet lines, on isolated grids do you have? What about IP addresses? How many of those do you get?

I could go on, but you seriously cannot compare your high end broadband providers with a data center. And if your setup *was* that robust, I bet you would be paying *far* more than even colocation would have cost. Far more

 

[TekniskM]

Hahahaha

I don't care what your home setup is, but I can bet it is not going to compare to a datacentre. If you ever get a chance, you should visit a data centre.

You might think everything is OK, but the biggest difference only gets noticed when something goes wrong. As long as everything is fine, you think you are OK hosting from home.

What happens when you are away on holiday and need someone to physically reboot the server? You might have UPS, but do you have backup generators? How many internet lines, on isolated grids do you have? What about IP addresses? How many of those do you get?

I could go on, but you seriously cannot compare your high end broadband providers with a data center. And if your setup *was* that robust, I bet you would be paying *far* more than even colocation would have cost. Far more

Most servers I have worked with have built in Light's Out management.
Not a problem rebooting a server anywhere in the world.

And sorry again, I did not know you guys where talking about hosting google or eBay. I thought you where discussing hosing a webshop or a few simple sites.

And yes, it does cost a bit to have it running, but worth it with all the automatic stuff you can do with WDS, ActiveDirectory and not least storage capacity. much safer to keep data on a server than on a laptop or homecomputer.

But as it comes for redundant internet lines I see your point. If the webpages you are hosting should reach a few hundred thousand hits a day your coustomers will get fairly mad of you let a simple thing like the internet line make a problem for you. But that is easely fixed with more nameservers on different locations having the exact same site as your hosting.

But I can see that looks more like a buisness oportunity in hosting than the simple 20$ to get you site hosted as the question originated from at the top.

So, to sum up, you should not host from home because 20$ at a datacenter is cheap against having your own.
But if you are to cheap to pay 20$ you can start your site on your laptop and if your site looks like it have the right potential for making money you can send it to a real host to let it live it's full potential.

 

[judson]

And sorry again, I did not know you guys where talking about hosting google or eBay. I thought you where discussing hosing a webshop or a few simple sites.

Just check out the number of threads here and elsewhere about the Justhost outtage.

It does not have to be an ebay sized business for you to be seriously inconvenienced when the site goes down .... and experience says that that is so much more likely to happen on a home machine.

 

[TekniskM]

Just check out the number of threads here and elsewhere about the Justhost outtage.

It does not have to be an ebay sized business for you to be seriously inconvenienced when the site goes down .... and experience says that that is so much more likely to happen on a home machine.

And probably the ones that have problems is usually scams and stuff that is only made to trick people.