Massive Direct Scrapebox Blast on Brand New Website
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Thanks for the reply bfellow.
What I did was go to Google KW Tool and punch my website in and seeing what keywords it gives me back - after all, this is what Google thinks my website is related to.
I select the keywords that have the heaviest monthly local searches (and do actually relate to my site) and then... add them to Market Samurai and also add my main domain via the 'add domains' option.
What this then does is search Google and tells me if any of my webpages are linked for any of these keywords inside the top 1000 on Google.
Fortunately, the pages that were ranked highest for each keyword, tended to be the subpage which would make sense to be shown to the visitor if they were searching for that keyword, so I then used the 'link lock' feature in ScrapeBox to list several of my webpages, with 1 or 2 of those anchor keywords.
For example:
domain.com {keyword}
domain.com/subpage1 {keyword1|keyword2}
So now I'll always be deep linking as well as linking to the homepage. It'll all just be randomly selected by SB for each blog I'm posting to.
I'm also using MS to track the rankings for my main webpages on the domain.
I guess it's now a case of wait and see.
What I did was go to Google KW Tool and punch my website in and seeing what keywords it gives me back - after all, this is what Google thinks my website is related to.
I select the keywords that have the heaviest monthly local searches (and do actually relate to my site) and then... add them to Market Samurai and also add my main domain via the 'add domains' option.
What this then does is search Google and tells me if any of my webpages are linked for any of these keywords inside the top 1000 on Google.
Fortunately, the pages that were ranked highest for each keyword, tended to be the subpage which would make sense to be shown to the visitor if they were searching for that keyword, so I then used the 'link lock' feature in ScrapeBox to list several of my webpages, with 1 or 2 of those anchor keywords.
For example:
domain.com {keyword}
domain.com/subpage1 {keyword1|keyword2}
So now I'll always be deep linking as well as linking to the homepage. It'll all just be randomly selected by SB for each blog I'm posting to.
I'm also using MS to track the rankings for my main webpages on the domain.
I guess it's now a case of wait and see.
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Bfellow
Entertaining post mate. I love these types of demos as its all plain English and at about my level atm. I have one site doing $2 day in adsense on page 2, all with manual back linking (87 backlinks ? page rank 2). It?s time I looked at automation so this example is fantastic. I appreciate the time you are taking to answer questions and look forward tracking your progress.
P.S ? Is there a tool you use to accumulate a list to post to?.
Cheers
Entertaining post mate. I love these types of demos as its all plain English and at about my level atm. I have one site doing $2 day in adsense on page 2, all with manual back linking (87 backlinks ? page rank 2). It?s time I looked at automation so this example is fantastic. I appreciate the time you are taking to answer questions and look forward tracking your progress.
P.S ? Is there a tool you use to accumulate a list to post to?.
Cheers
This is a good study, i still dont have the gut to blast my site. I do blast to first tier or web 2.0 site linking to mine. Bfellow are you still ranking in the search engines and i hope your earning is increasing. If you have like hundred urls to blast to how do you go about it on scrapebox, can i blast to them at the same time
SEOintraining
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Simple question and sorry if you already answered it, I readed the whole post yesterday but I can't remember if you had covered it.
Do you post only to high PR pages or page without PR will work too? Because when I scrape I end up with a lot of results but after I'm done posting on them I'm left with a much smaller list. I usually go for page PR which hit the PRs average even harder
Do you post only to high PR pages or page without PR will work too? Because when I scrape I end up with a lot of results but after I'm done posting on them I'm left with a much smaller list. I usually go for page PR which hit the PRs average even harder
bdtyrone
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My site got deindexed after a massive SB blast [commenting + pinging]
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/319433-site-deindexed-15k.html
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/319433-site-deindexed-15k.html
bfellow
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- Jan 3, 2008
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Hey Everyone,
Just checking in on the thread to answer questions. I've got a lot of time this weekend and am hoping to finally launch a list or two for you guys. Will update here once that is up and working.
Now to QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS:
This is a great strategy and very very similar to what I do. GWT is great because it tells you what Google is thinking. Once you know that, you can target the right keywords and getting ranked will be much easier. I'd love to hear what your results are.
Thank you for the compliment. Glad you have enjoyed the thread. As for do vs. no follow, I don't even pay attention to this. If all of your links were do links, I think that would look really suspicious. Some people think it is critical, but in all of my experiments I have never seen this as a defining factor in my search rankings.
Thanks for your post. I do use this tool to accumulate my lists. I use several server's though that are separate from my posting server's. It does take a lot of computing power to build them, then weed out the bad links.
For people who are still unsure about this, I would focus on a test site and just see for yourself. The key is link velocity and letting Google manually discover the links. If you blast once then ping them all, you are screaming for a sandbox. But if you blast continuously, monitor how fast links are being picked up, and blast a huge base that will continue to be discovered for months, you won't have to deal with the sandbox.
You definitely can use SB for your second tier links as well, backlinking articles, bookmarking sites, etc.
I am no longer blasting the site. I haven't for about three weeks now. I am not looking to see how well rankings hold post-blasting as part of the experiment. So far so good. Traffic and rankings are steady. YSE is currently listing 36,664 back links, which is actually up slightly from a day or two ago. This is because I laid down so many links, that my link discovery by SE's will continue despite not posting any new links. I'm still holding my first page ranking for my primary keyword as well.
I target pages of all PR's. My main goal is more quantity than quality. I think if you only have say, all high PR links, it is a read flag to Google that links aren't organic.
Sorry to hear your site deindexed. What I would do is continue to post with SB but without the pinging. I never ping after the first blast. Also, did you just run one big blast, or did you blast again and again over at least a month? Blasting once, then pinging, then doing nothing is a BIG no-no according to all of my experiments. It is a dead giveaway that the links are not organic to the big SE's.
Thanks everyone for your comments and questions. Keep them coming!
Just checking in on the thread to answer questions. I've got a lot of time this weekend and am hoping to finally launch a list or two for you guys. Will update here once that is up and working.
Now to QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS:
This is a great strategy and very very similar to what I do. GWT is great because it tells you what Google is thinking. Once you know that, you can target the right keywords and getting ranked will be much easier. I'd love to hear what your results are.
Thank you for the compliment. Glad you have enjoyed the thread. As for do vs. no follow, I don't even pay attention to this. If all of your links were do links, I think that would look really suspicious. Some people think it is critical, but in all of my experiments I have never seen this as a defining factor in my search rankings.
Thanks for your post. I do use this tool to accumulate my lists. I use several server's though that are separate from my posting server's. It does take a lot of computing power to build them, then weed out the bad links.
For people who are still unsure about this, I would focus on a test site and just see for yourself. The key is link velocity and letting Google manually discover the links. If you blast once then ping them all, you are screaming for a sandbox. But if you blast continuously, monitor how fast links are being picked up, and blast a huge base that will continue to be discovered for months, you won't have to deal with the sandbox.
You definitely can use SB for your second tier links as well, backlinking articles, bookmarking sites, etc.
I am no longer blasting the site. I haven't for about three weeks now. I am not looking to see how well rankings hold post-blasting as part of the experiment. So far so good. Traffic and rankings are steady. YSE is currently listing 36,664 back links, which is actually up slightly from a day or two ago. This is because I laid down so many links, that my link discovery by SE's will continue despite not posting any new links. I'm still holding my first page ranking for my primary keyword as well.
Simple question and sorry if you already answered it, I readed the whole post yesterday but I can't remember if you had covered it.
Do you post only to high PR pages or page without PR will work too? Because when I scrape I end up with a lot of results but after I'm done posting on them I'm left with a much smaller list. I usually go for page PR which hit the PRs average even harder
I target pages of all PR's. My main goal is more quantity than quality. I think if you only have say, all high PR links, it is a read flag to Google that links aren't organic.
Sorry to hear your site deindexed. What I would do is continue to post with SB but without the pinging. I never ping after the first blast. Also, did you just run one big blast, or did you blast again and again over at least a month? Blasting once, then pinging, then doing nothing is a BIG no-no according to all of my experiments. It is a dead giveaway that the links are not organic to the big SE's.
Thanks everyone for your comments and questions. Keep them coming!
Some noob questions:
1. How you structure h1 h2 and h3 in your articles?
h1 - title, h2 - article, h3 - keywords? Please tell us something about it
2. Do you actually need to have "whatever_keyword" in your article, to rank for it, or it's enough just having it as anchor text(name) in your comments? I mean, can you rank for keyword when not having it in article?
Best thread btw, i'm following it from the beginning
1. How you structure h1 h2 and h3 in your articles?
h1 - title, h2 - article, h3 - keywords? Please tell us something about it
2. Do you actually need to have "whatever_keyword" in your article, to rank for it, or it's enough just having it as anchor text(name) in your comments? I mean, can you rank for keyword when not having it in article?
Best thread btw, i'm following it from the beginning
bfellow
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Hey All,
Going to answer a few questions real quick. This next week is going to be extremely busy as I work to finish a huge contract for a Fortune 50 company, then I will have a few weeks to focus on my BHW and SB stuff, so a lot more to come in a little over a week.
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
Right now the site is averaging about 65 visitors a day. So it still continues to hold up really well. I am still maintaining my #7 on first page in Google for my primary keywords.
To add to this, I just checked Yahoo for back links, and it currently is showing 36,503 back links. So links continues to hold and even pick up a few here and there that haven't been indexed.
Thanks for following the thread and I'm glad you have found it useful.
1) As far as structure, H1 is always your title. I make sure that my H1 always matches my Title meta tag and that both have my primary keyword in it. H2 tags I use for sub headers. I also make sure that my sub headers have either a primary or secondary keyword in them. I hardly ever go down to H3 tags. I do tend to bold my primary and secondary keywords the first time they show up in the article. I think you can over emphasize keywords by say bolding all of them, so I do use a little moderation.
2) Technically you can start to rank for keywords just by using them in anchor text linking in, but this will require a LOT more work than having solid on-page SEO work done that you are linking to. Make sure your anchor text and your H1 and title tags match up pretty closely if not exactly. Google takes in hundreds of different factors when determining where to rank your site.
I've had sites rank first page with just solid on-page SEO. I think it is more important than back links, but you need both to succeed with even moderately difficult keywords.
Thanks everyone for your questions and comments. I've replied to all PM's.
As always, questions and comments are always welcome!
Going to answer a few questions real quick. This next week is going to be extremely busy as I work to finish a huge contract for a Fortune 50 company, then I will have a few weeks to focus on my BHW and SB stuff, so a lot more to come in a little over a week.
QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
Right now the site is averaging about 65 visitors a day. So it still continues to hold up really well. I am still maintaining my #7 on first page in Google for my primary keywords.
To add to this, I just checked Yahoo for back links, and it currently is showing 36,503 back links. So links continues to hold and even pick up a few here and there that haven't been indexed.
Some noob questions:
1. How you structure h1 h2 and h3 in your articles?
h1 - title, h2 - article, h3 - keywords? Please tell us something about it
2. Do you actually need to have "whatever_keyword" in your article, to rank for it, or it's enough just having it as anchor text(name) in your comments? I mean, can you rank for keyword when not having it in article?
Best thread btw, i'm following it from the beginning
Thanks for following the thread and I'm glad you have found it useful.
1) As far as structure, H1 is always your title. I make sure that my H1 always matches my Title meta tag and that both have my primary keyword in it. H2 tags I use for sub headers. I also make sure that my sub headers have either a primary or secondary keyword in them. I hardly ever go down to H3 tags. I do tend to bold my primary and secondary keywords the first time they show up in the article. I think you can over emphasize keywords by say bolding all of them, so I do use a little moderation.
2) Technically you can start to rank for keywords just by using them in anchor text linking in, but this will require a LOT more work than having solid on-page SEO work done that you are linking to. Make sure your anchor text and your H1 and title tags match up pretty closely if not exactly. Google takes in hundreds of different factors when determining where to rank your site.
I've had sites rank first page with just solid on-page SEO. I think it is more important than back links, but you need both to succeed with even moderately difficult keywords.
Thanks everyone for your questions and comments. I've replied to all PM's.
As always, questions and comments are always welcome!
abyssal_miss
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- Jun 18, 2011
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Great thread, interesting experiment.
I have a question.
I was under the impression that blasting sites that have Adsense will get your Adsense account banned. I have SEnukeX and Scrapebox and planned on using them on a website with Adsense but have heard bad things.
Is this or isn't this safe? Are there limits? Any advice on how to avoid being banned from these methods? Thanks
Thanks and Sub given
I have a question.
I was under the impression that blasting sites that have Adsense will get your Adsense account banned. I have SEnukeX and Scrapebox and planned on using them on a website with Adsense but have heard bad things.
Is this or isn't this safe? Are there limits? Any advice on how to avoid being banned from these methods? Thanks
Thanks and Sub given
bfellow
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- Jan 3, 2008
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Hey All,
Just answering a quick question I noticed. Will to a full update on the experiment in a day or two.
This is a common misconception. Doing improper grey or black hat SEO can get you sand boxed or delisted from the Google index, but it won't get you banned from Adsense. Adsense is run completely separate from Google Search inside Google. The Adsense team is more concerned about click fraud and TOS violations. If you read the Adsense TOS, you will see there is nothing in it about external back linking.
As for advice on keeping from being banned, SENukeX is totally different in terms of strategy than Scrapebox. I can only speak to Scrapebox as I don't have enough experience with SENukeX to speak definitively.
With Scrabebox, it's all about link velocity. You will want to run several blasts over a period of time if you are going to direct link to your money site. And stay away from pinging. This will help smooth out the link discovery curve in Google. For the site I used in the experiment for this thread, I blasted the shit our of it, but only pinged the first links to get discovered. I do not recommend pinging after your site is discovered.
Think about it this way. Example A, you blast 50,000 links to your target site and ping all of them. Google quickly discovers them all through a non-natural process (pinging) sees a large spike, and then after that no or very few new links. Example B, you blast 50,000 links to your target site and do not ping them. Google naturally crawls them and sees much more of a natural sloping curve to the link discovery graph. Same number of links, but one looks totally forced while the other looks like something naturally going viral.
It is always best to test your theories first and do not blast a site already making money without having a firm understanding of what you are doing. There are no warranty's in this game. Google like's to keep all of us in the dark, so there are no strategies out there that are 100% perfect with no risk.
The best piece of advice is to use common sense. Study how sites grow big, run a few experiments on your own, and you will find the secret recipe. The purpose of this thread was to share with everyone an active, real time case study and to encourage people to go out and try it for themselves. No strategy beats action.
Good luck and I hope this helped!
As always, questions and comments welcome.
Just answering a quick question I noticed. Will to a full update on the experiment in a day or two.
Great thread, interesting experiment.
I have a question.
I was under the impression that blasting sites that have Adsense will get your Adsense account banned. I have SEnukeX and Scrapebox and planned on using them on a website with Adsense but have heard bad things.
Is this or isn't this safe? Are there limits? Any advice on how to avoid being banned from these methods? Thanks
Thanks and Sub given
This is a common misconception. Doing improper grey or black hat SEO can get you sand boxed or delisted from the Google index, but it won't get you banned from Adsense. Adsense is run completely separate from Google Search inside Google. The Adsense team is more concerned about click fraud and TOS violations. If you read the Adsense TOS, you will see there is nothing in it about external back linking.
As for advice on keeping from being banned, SENukeX is totally different in terms of strategy than Scrapebox. I can only speak to Scrapebox as I don't have enough experience with SENukeX to speak definitively.
With Scrabebox, it's all about link velocity. You will want to run several blasts over a period of time if you are going to direct link to your money site. And stay away from pinging. This will help smooth out the link discovery curve in Google. For the site I used in the experiment for this thread, I blasted the shit our of it, but only pinged the first links to get discovered. I do not recommend pinging after your site is discovered.
Think about it this way. Example A, you blast 50,000 links to your target site and ping all of them. Google quickly discovers them all through a non-natural process (pinging) sees a large spike, and then after that no or very few new links. Example B, you blast 50,000 links to your target site and do not ping them. Google naturally crawls them and sees much more of a natural sloping curve to the link discovery graph. Same number of links, but one looks totally forced while the other looks like something naturally going viral.
It is always best to test your theories first and do not blast a site already making money without having a firm understanding of what you are doing. There are no warranty's in this game. Google like's to keep all of us in the dark, so there are no strategies out there that are 100% perfect with no risk.
The best piece of advice is to use common sense. Study how sites grow big, run a few experiments on your own, and you will find the secret recipe. The purpose of this thread was to share with everyone an active, real time case study and to encourage people to go out and try it for themselves. No strategy beats action.
Good luck and I hope this helped!
As always, questions and comments welcome.
dowser
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- Jun 5, 2011
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I'm following you all the way, just got ScrapeBox last week and do a lot of scraping / blasting to figure it all out. I'm very much interested in the outcome as I have over 250 sites - some ranking well, some not and I'm looking for a relatively safe method to get them rank higher. (By safe I mean to get as much info as possible before doing something drastic, I don't exclude BH!).
I already know that in order to go at it full blast I will need at least a dedicated computer, at least quad core, I'm not sure about my connection, I don't have much choice here living in a rather remote area...I'm only able to get about 10k new AA urls per day...
Thank you for your thorough account about how you go about it and I'm very much interested about the long term results.
I already know that in order to go at it full blast I will need at least a dedicated computer, at least quad core, I'm not sure about my connection, I don't have much choice here living in a rather remote area...I'm only able to get about 10k new AA urls per day...
Thank you for your thorough account about how you go about it and I'm very much interested about the long term results.
abyssal_miss
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- Jun 18, 2011
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Thanks for taking the time to answer my question in detail, like I said I was under the impression it was the opposite so to hear that gives me a bit more confidence and gets my gears turning to new ideas. Thanks for the inspiration!
Thanks for the inspiration!