Dammit, I really have to say this

*shrug* Intelligence isn't what you know, but how well you process what you know. The average IQ is rising because more information is available to be picked up and learned while the benchmark of average/high intelligence isn't moving.

Are these kids really smarter than you, or is it they've had the opportunity to learn what you haven't?
 
Firstly; you have a lot of good points. XD
Secondly; I am a woman, and I do agree to an extent that since women choose that its deteriorated a bit, BUT I do not believe that is the soul reason.


In arranged marriages commonly they were arranged to people who could pay or "donate" the most to the family, the family would benefit an amount OR the womans parents had to have a dowry and so it all came down to what it is now adays -- money, wealth, not intellect and brawn (which is part of it), part of the natural way of life is a little bit intellect, and a little bit strength. Being a "nerd" is technically considered a bad gene, you have to have an appropriate mix of both (so being a nerd is too much of one good gene, and not enough of another, does that make sense? As is the opposite being a jock is too much of a good thing, and not enough intellect). Going back to our natural roots we are built to live in the word without houses, cars, etc.

So a "perfect male" would be the man who could hunt, he was swift, he was strong, he could think well enough to use tools to catch his prey etc.

A perfect woman was obviously slender, this represented an agility as men have a tendency to "Fight" and women is more "flight". Not a bad thing, an example of this is if a family has a child and that child becomes endangered for some reason, the male would have the instinct to go out and hunt down the thing that endangered his child, as the woman has the instinct to stay with the child and protect him, thus working together perfectly. A woman also would be a bit of a thinker, as they would have to forage etc.

So really, money has always been an issue and is the thing that makes "Dominant" males now adays, it's not really the men who can work hard and earn their meals, its the men who can purchase the biggest tvs, the most shoes, etc. And in the case of arranged marriages, the man with the biggest pig took the woman.

So you see to an extent I agree but to another I think its simply human greed that deteriorates our kind. I unfortunately have a hard time staying thin, as both my parents have a chubby gene so it kind of comes naturally, but to balance that out (as any woman who followed their basic instincts would tell them) I have gotten with a man who has a higher metabolism than me, and to try to counter my parents if I stay fit, active, and eat healthy when I am pregnant then studies show that there is a way to "turn off" certain genes, or to lessen the chances of them having those genes (I.E. How eating fish helps stimulate their brain.)

We've lost our basic instincts and thats our issue imho, three cheers for an apocalypse! Lol.

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You're right and wrong.

intelligence is not measured by what u know

that is correct

its measured by your ability to absorb and retain new information

that is incorrect. Intelligence has to do with the way you think. Some people have photographic memory and they retain and absorb information freakishly well but they don't necessarily have a high IQ.

Again, this all depends on what theory of intelligence you want to look at. For example Cattell's theory separates intelligence into "fluid intelligence" and "crystallized intelligence", which are both factors of "general intelligence."

Fluid intelligence being reasoning and problem solving skills in novel environments. Crystallized intelligence being the ability to use skills and knowledge.

So for example, you learn how to do calculus. The prossess of learning would be using fluid intelligence, and once you've learned it, your knowledge of calculus is an aquired piece of crystallized intelligence.
 
To be honest Black Seng Darwin theory is out the window

ITs impossible to go from fish to bird etc etc
Even scientists say there are many problems with Darwins theory

I mean there is the theory that those grey aliens people claim abduct them are us in the future and we lost emotions etc and they trying to fix it however they did not originate from a bird they just evloved a little from us same humans
understand?
 
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No real such thing as good genes or bad things. No one is born lazy. They ar either not really happy wih their lives or they are too afraid to do stuff...you know the score.

Any way my point is laziness is an attitude thing not a genetic thing and anybody can be anybody they want to be.
 
Ok guys, good replies. Did gain a lot of insight.

Here's an interesting tidbit:
The reason why Japanese people seem more intelligent than others because there's a natural Eugenics process going on with their society. The "smart" ones whom graduated from their universities will immediately have job proposals from big companies. Also, those Japs are hardcore workers - they work so intensively that they actually fell asleep on the floor while they're on their way to work! So you could imagine how little their social life is.

Since they only can socialize with their collegues (whom are university grads too), they will fall in love with each other and marry off. That explains why a majority of them are smart. Because those school dropouts or those whom didn't go to the University will be hovering around their streets with their free time, serving sushis at restaurants, .etc.
 
Ok guys, good replies. Did gain a lot of insight.

Here's an interesting tidbit:
The reason why Japanese people seem more intelligent than others because there's a natural Eugenics process going on with their society. The "smart" ones whom graduated from their universities will immediately have job proposals from big companies. Also, those Japs are hardcore workers - they work so intensively that they actually fell asleep on the floor while they're on their way to work! So you could imagine how little their social life is.

Since they only can socialize with their collegues (whom are university grads too), they will fall in love with each other and marry off. That explains why a majority of them are smart. Because those school dropouts or those whom didn't go to the University will be hovering around their streets with their free time, serving sushis at restaurants, .etc.

lmao I never thought about it like that!
 
I have to tell you, I had many similarities in my thinking when I was 18. Since then I've lived through many things & I've learned quite a few things. "Intellect" is a false bubble made by human race & it has not much value in person's mental well being. There are root concepts in the beginning of this argument and they all answer the same question. What's the meaning of life? Do you live to explore or do you live to be happy or do you live to serve or .. ? A person who lives to be happy doesn't give a rats ass about your "superior" genes or almighty intellect. This is not to say that the person is stupid or doesn't understand or know; the person has different priorities in life. You & people who think like you, on the other hand, create diversity in society, make groups, make people alienated form one other. You are very materialistic in your intellectualism, and I by no means mean to offend you, but read your own posts. Apparently you give very high value to person's appearances, you believe in creating superior breed of people. This is what the worst living & dead dictators did and it failed every time. People in general don't want a superior race, they want happiness. There isn't such thing as superior gene. There are however people who think they are special to get out of social norms & come up with greater ideas, when the reality is that they are so consumed by social norms that they became the servant for the norms. If I were you, I'd try to do some reverse role playing, just to realize what it is that you are advocating. Another great idea would be going out & meeting some people around the world from different backgrounds, it might be an eye opener for you once you get to know them. Don't hide behind the curtain. I don't think you are a bad person, I think you have been mislead, just power through the tunnel & there is a light at the end of it.
 
Ah, an absolute misfire as I never meant people to think that way.
Hope any mods reading this can just close this thread to avoid further debate.


Firstly i thought we were past this crap but looks like some people still think going back to live in prehistoric times is the answer, maybe it is maybe it is not but that is not for me to decide. Let me just make one point here before i begin, all those in favour for the OP's opinion above think about weather you would actually be here or not if these eugenics practices had been going on still? Something for you to ponder on. Getting rid of handicaps and lazy people oh please. Who are you to even quantify this, are you someone who studies this stuff extensively as a profession or just on youtube?

Lets take a look at Steven Hawkins, a very fit and able man during his early adulthood only to be hit with a disease during his later life which has seen him become physically handicapped, so to speak. So what? Has that hindered his quality to contribute to society or the better of human kind to build a better future. As far as i can see he alone has defied all you have presented and he is one man with 'belief' and 'will'. I think alot of people would be amazed at how far these so called 'handicapped' people will go with some beleif, will and some love.

Surely i am not the only one who thinks abouts the OP's post in this manner i was just the first to clearly make a case against it. And if anyone is wondering i have a very open mind, but this is just closing it up again. Unless of course you can provide irefutable proof that this is the reason for the human race the way it is?
 
Again, this all depends on what theory of intelligence you want to look at. For example Cattell's theory separates intelligence into "fluid intelligence" and "crystallized intelligence", which are both factors of "general intelligence."

Fluid intelligence being reasoning and problem solving skills in novel environments. Crystallized intelligence being the ability to use skills and knowledge.

So for example, you learn how to do calculus. The prossess of learning would be using fluid intelligence, and once you've learned it, your knowledge of calculus is an aquired piece of crystallized intelligence.

I'm wasn't talking about intelligence, because as you said it can defined as different things. I was talking about IQ.

Firstly i thought we were past this crap but looks like some people still think going back to live in prehistoric times is the answer, maybe it is maybe it is not but that is not for me to decide. Let me just make one point here before i begin, all those in favour for the OP's opinion above think about weather you would actually be here or not if these eugenics practices had been going on still? Something for you to ponder on. Getting rid of handicaps and lazy people oh please. Who are you to even quantify this, are you someone who studies this stuff extensively as a profession or just on youtube?

Lets take a look at Steven Hawkins, a very fit and able man during his early adulthood only to be hit with a disease during his later life which has seen him become physically handicapped, so to speak. So what? Has that hindered his quality to contribute to society or the better of human kind to build a better future. As far as i can see he alone has defied all you have presented and he is one man with 'belief' and 'will'. I think alot of people would be amazed at how far these so called 'handicapped' people will go with some beleif, will and some love.

Surely i am not the only one who thinks about the OP's post in this manner i was just the first to clearly make a case against it. And if anyone is wondering i have a very open mind, but this is just making me want to close my ears. Unless of course you can provide irefutable proof that this is the reason for the human race the way it is?

That's not what he was saying. He wasn't saying eugenics should be practiced, he was just explaining a possible dip in human performance is due to this bad gene mixing. I don't think anyone in their right mind agrees with actually practicing eugenics. It was just his theory, which is probably partly true. But that doesn't mean he wants to act upon the theory. For example, I think it would benefit a lot of people if we did stem cell research (it could cure cancer and other chronic illnesses) However, that doesn't mean I want people to get abortions so that we can get the stem cells. Do you see what I'm saying?
 
Damn this zombie thread still lives.

He just shared his theory with you and you all jumped on him like he was going to apply it tomorrow. Funny.
 
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