Opt-in on the seller's page. Scam?

[grnydrowave]

I'm new to affiliate marketing, and have no experience with CB. I was just looking around at some of the pages for CB products, and one of the pages has an opt-in form right at the top.

The cynic in me can't help but wonder if the seller is trying to sell product through e-mail and screw affiliates out of commission. This is a pretty popular product with decent gravity though. Should I steer clear of products whose sellers use opt-ins?

 

[math182]

If the The opt-in form is filled through your affiliate link, you will still get the commission,even 2 months later because YOU brought the subscriber, and potential lead or sale. 1 opt-in can bring you sales in 2 years if the vendors lauches another product and sells it to his list... understand?

 

[grnydrowave]

That's very good to know. Thank you.

 

[realsavoy]

If the The opt-in form is filled through your affiliate link, you will still get the commission,even 2 months later because YOU brought the subscriber, and potential lead or sale. 1 opt-in can bring you sales in 2 years if the vendors lauches another product and sells it to his list... understand?

How to find that my affiliate link is in the optin form? any eg?

 

[math182]

How to find that my affiliate link is in the optin form? any eg?

The opt-in forme comes frome your link, so it's kind of YOUR subscriber

 

[myapps43]

I posted an extensive discussion on tracking cookies and opt-in forms which should help you here:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/clickbank/241686-protecting-cb-commissions-what-you-need-know-about-clickbank-cookies-email-opt-ins.html

 

[OTrap]

Okay, here's how this works.

Opt-in forms that are set up before or over the sales page (aka "squeeze" or "splash" pages) are used to garner leads.

Now, if the person has an autoresponder set up that sends emails with the site's actual URL as the link in the emails, you are still able to get the commissions, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE NOT REVISITED THE SITE THROUGH SOMEONE ELSE'S AFFILIATE LINK IN THE MEANTIME.

An affiliate link isn't really its own unique link so much as it is just a tracking cookie. When the cookie gets placed, then any sale made on that website from them on (so long as the cookie is there) will give you credit for the sale.

However, if the potential buyer visits the site through your affiliate link, but then visits the same site through someone else's affiliate link, that person's cookie will overwrite your own. Clickbank works on a principle of "last cookie wins."

So, if a vendor has his AFFILIATE link in his autoresponder, then his cookie will overwrite your own. However, if he's just using the website's URL, you'll still get credit.

Best way to tell whether or not to promote based on this? Sign up to his autoresponder through your affiliate link, and when you get his emails, go to his links in them. Go to the checkout page, and scroll to the bottom. There is a message down there that tells who the affiliate is. If it's your own Clickbank ID, then you're safe. If it's someone else's, then your cookie is probably getting overwritten.

 

[myapps43]

Okay, here's how this works.

Opt-in forms that are set up before or over the sales page (aka "squeeze" or "splash" pages) are used to garner leads.

Now, if the person has an autoresponder set up that sends emails with the site's actual URL as the link in the emails, you are still able to get the commissions, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE NOT REVISITED THE SITE THROUGH SOMEONE ELSE'S AFFILIATE LINK IN THE MEANTIME.

An affiliate link isn't really its own unique link so much as it is just a tracking cookie. When the cookie gets placed, then any sale made on that website from them on (so long as the cookie is there) will give you credit for the sale.

However, if the potential buyer visits the site through your affiliate link, but then visits the same site through someone else's affiliate link, that person's cookie will overwrite your own. Clickbank works on a principle of "last cookie wins."

So, if a vendor has his AFFILIATE link in his autoresponder, then his cookie will overwrite your own. However, if he's just using the website's URL, you'll still get credit.

Best way to tell whether or not to promote based on this? Sign up to his autoresponder through your affiliate link, and when you get his emails, go to his links in them. Go to the checkout page, and scroll to the bottom. There is a message down there that tells who the affiliate is. If it's your own Clickbank ID, then you're safe. If it's someone else's, then your cookie is probably getting overwritten.

Latif (Auto Mass Traffic & Rapid Mass Traffic)overwrites his affiliate's cookies in this way. He puts his affliate link in his autoresponder series so I do not promote any of his products. You will never get any commissions promoting his products. He knows he screwing affiliates this way. Its not illegal but it is unethical.

 

[OTrap]

That saddens me. I have spoken to Latif on several occasions, and he as always seemed like a good guy.

However, if it's bad for business, I will also refrain from promoting his stuff.

 

[kkrueger]

That's the best advice, sign up for the optin, and see what you get for the autoresponder, and then go to the checkout page.

I promoted a product that offered a free product, and after I signed up for the ecourse...the ecourse was on their domain but with a different sales page that had a different checkout program...completely bypassing Clickbank.

It pays to optin and check for yourself. Good luck!