Facebook Accounts - Conversion rates & Keeping them ALIVE!

[TBEASE]

I am using Facebook FriendAdder Pro and find keeping the accounts alive to be a bit of a struggle.

I started sending friend requests with a message (18-22 recommended by FFAP) but quickly ran into some checks, temporary blocks too.

Sending a message makes it easy for recipients to flag you as a spammer as the message gives them this option right next to the delete message.

So I tried jsut sending a friend request, which dramatically increased my conversion rate. Give them less information and all they can decide on is she cute or is she ugly/threatening. More people find it easier to say yes in the absence of more information.


Great.

I can't tell if the subequent blocks have been issued due to past send requests or this change in tactics. Difficult to decide, but reading the facebook messages in the checkpoints etc, it seems if you have a high number of sent requests that go unanswered, then it flags them.


My future MO will be as follows and I would be interested in some feedback please:

Send friend request without messages
Leave them for 24-36 hours and then delete pending sent requests (FFAP does this nicely).
After the pending requests are deleted, commence the next round of friend invites.

Of the 80 or so accounts that were still alive, sending friend requests sans the message resulted in a minimum conversion rate of 20%.


How are you guys going?
Any other tips to void the roadblocks and checkpoints/temporary friend request freezes?

I'd much rather avoid them than fiddle with getting around them, though tips on the latter would also be welcomed.

Thanks in Advance.

 

[katidixie]

do u use same country ip for each account ?

 

[TBEASE]

All of my accounts and proxies are US domiciled.
I don't assign more than 3 accounts per proxy.

 

[Telkor]

just accept that some accounts WILL go down...even if you keep your limits, use different unique IPs and do everything manually, they'll sometimes screw up.

 

[TBEASE]

yes, I agree and I wouldn't be at all bothered if they were only some accounts. I started with 150 accounts and now have just under 40.

The rest haven't been banned as I have manually logged into them and have gone through the process of facebook withdrawing previous friend requests & accepting the 2 day friend request ban.

but you'd have to say less than 40 accounts from 150 in 1 week and I must be doing something wrong.

 

[sunbros]

First of all add 3-5 friends
then use "Find Targeted Friends - Others Friends" method
and start sending request include this message (Hey Im Y, X's friends. just moved to the are )

Its working pretty good..

 

[TBEASE]

nice sunbros.
i can do that between my accounts a few times and see how it goes.
what is the benefit of adding 3-5 friends first?

 

[katidixie]

with 3-5 adds u dont trigger their alerts

 

[TBEASE]

great. I'll start with 3-5 manual adds next time.
How many friend requests per day seems OK thereafter?

 

[TBEASE]

I am still having problems with even more fb accounts going to the checkpoint this morning ( I added 6-9 friends each with a message).

My Facebook FriendAdder pro is a sea of green.

I must be doing something wrong that I am not aware of.

Would anyone be generous enough to give me some tips to check on?

So far this is my set up:
Using Facebook Friend Adder pro
<3 FB accounts per proxy
Proxies US based and private
FB accounts are all US based
Never sent more than 40 friend requests per day and routinely less than 30.
I have only been using the accounts for 2 weeks.

Once they go green, they never go back to white on FFAP despite being able to log in manually after having cleared the checkpoint tests.

What else could it be?

 

[katidixie]

whats green and white ? i use other soft ,from captchahacke r.com

 

[tronlegacy]

I used to work at Facebook and can tell you that most of the spam prevention systems relies on whether or not you know the person you're friending. The thing is people on Facebook are very into privacy and they do not want anyone into their lives. I have worked on studies which figures how many degrees of separation you are to anyone around the world. MIT published a similar study and concluded 6. Facebook only goes to the "Friends of Friends" method. If you do not know the friend or do not have friends of friends, it is suspicious to why you would friend them. It is also suspicious if you have never friended anyone either.

 

[kumar86]

I used to work at Facebook and can tell you that most of the spam prevention systems relies on whether or not you know the person you're friending. The thing is people on Facebook are very into privacy and they do not want anyone into their lives. I have worked on studies which figures how many degrees of separation you are to anyone around the world. MIT published a similar study and concluded 6. Facebook only goes to the "Friends of Friends" method. If you do not know the friend or do not have friends of friends, it is suspicious to why you would friend them. It is also suspicious if you have never friended anyone either.

hmmm... this would actually make a lot of sense... Now my question is, when you go on an adding campaign... is there a way to add like 20 people, then add within those 20 people, then so on and so forth?

 

[TBEASE]

I used to work at Facebook and can tell you that most of the spam prevention systems relies on whether or not you know the person you're friending. The thing is people on Facebook are very into privacy and they do not want anyone into their lives. I have worked on studies which figures how many degrees of separation you are to anyone around the world. MIT published a similar study and concluded 6. Facebook only goes to the "Friends of Friends" method. If you do not know the friend or do not have friends of friends, it is suspicious to why you would friend them. It is also suspicious if you have never friended anyone either.

It is interesting that you make this point about privacy.
I was experiencing acceptances from sending out random friend requests in the order of 20-57%.

whats green and white ? i use other soft ,from captchahacke r.com

Green refers to the status facebook friend addder gives accounts it is unable to log in with.
Red - accounts that have been closed down by facebook.
White - fully functioning accounts.

I took a look at ************************** and it seems quite expensive.
How does it compare with FFAP?

 

[katidixie]

FFAP is shit compared to captchahacke r.com

 

[ponceboy]

I would say on FFAP if you are using a fresh account the most amount of adds you will get off a batch of gathered ids is 20 before you reach the "About Facebook Friends" Roadblock.
The method of adding 3-5 then targeting their friends to get mutuals works better, but you will still come across this problem.

So in theory, kumar86, you could do that method by using "Find Targeted Friends - Others Friends" but you'll still reach a roadblock at around 40 adds.

 

[TBEASE]

How many friends per account is everybody managing to invite per day using FFAP?

 

[gdurham12]

is there anyway u can make ffap add people you may know? that would keep accounts alive

 

[kumar86]

I would say on FFAP if you are using a fresh account the most amount of adds you will get off a batch of gathered ids is 20 before you reach the "About Facebook Friends" Roadblock.
The method of adding 3-5 then targeting their friends to get mutuals works better, but you will still come across this problem.

So in theory, kumar86, you could do that method by using "Find Targeted Friends - Others Friends" but you'll still reach a roadblock at around 40 adds.

So one of my accounts finally got the warning (green) on ffap. Now... I'm really confused as to how I can build this account now?

The message said, only add people you know... okay fair, so I guess I can go in and start adding friends of friends... right?

Can someone give me a strategy or a step by step plan to building accounts with ffap?

 

[TBEASE]

I cant firgure it out.
I use FFAP adding 6-8 friends (with upto 600 seconds pause between) from a targeted list because I only want people who are members of pages related to a certain topic.

Getting green accounts everyday.
I think FFAP has lost its effectiveness.

Is anyone out there managing to use FFAP to add friends without getting green account warnings?

How are you managing to do this because it has got me beaten.