$174 377 from Instagram automation in less than 12 months [AMA]

[conceptsofo]

But did You work with a model ?

yes, correct.

1. Is there any advantage to doing mass DM/f-uf with phone farm vs. API or do you find the bonus in revenue not significant ?
2. With your own phonefarm do you also do other small ventures or is it exclusively for your own rotating mobile proxies for IAM ?

1) Phone farm - longevity, API via IAM - fast. If I needed cash fast - I'd just do mass spam. Phone farm is more long-run game with 50-80% living. Where phone farm scale lacks - people are more likely to interact with you if your account is more realistic. That's why my most effective campaigns on OF were the ones where it 'makes sense' why an empty account is messaging them.

2) I also have my own venture with reels posting. I have a separate JV regarding that for which I will have an update very soon. API lacks natural behavioural elements that phone farms offer. This means that phone farms can be suited for mass reels uploading. I can't do this with IAM... the videos would get no views whatsoever.

How do you avoid bans or shadowbans when doing mass actions?

Mostly IP quality (i run my own mobile proxies) and I constantly check the limits with different account batches (one batch does 2-3 actions, another batch 3-8, and so on). I have a small batch that also does 20+ actions. Sometimes IG pushes some update where they don't really rate limit much.. on these days it's gold mining.

What’s your daily action limit per account (likes, DMs, follows)?

Depends on the cycle of IG updates/testing.

Hi bro, got few questions.. Does it matter where is created the instagram account? I got good ips in my country, very good for insta and all of the insta accounts I have created are still alive, I mean I have no problems in creating new insta account and do whatever I like with it.. now my question is, can I target USA audience? how to make it happen? Because when I create the insta account with my country ips that I have I see pages and ads from my country.. So, basically when you create your insta accounts do you target only in your country or you make it happen somehow to target in USA for example? Just asking because my models want to be seen only there.. Best regards

With IG it's IP related only. For example, on tiktok i used to need a US sim to get views. This no longer is important. If your models are running their ig's on their iphones - tell them to get shadowrocket app, get them a US mobile proxy that they share between each other (it's very unlikely that all of them would be uploading at the same time), set the connection type as SOCKS5 and then ask them to make a new account when the connection is active.

hello! may i DM you?

Sure, my dm's are open.

Making your own accounts is definitely the way to go, especially with how quickly bought accounts can get burned. I've seen it happen to a lot of people who rely on brute markets - it's just not sustainable. As for the proxy-to-account ratio, I've found that using a mix of mobile and residential proxies can help keep things under the radar, but it's all about finding that sweet spot. The silo idea makes sense but in this case, it's more about diversifying your proxy setup to avoid getting flagged. What's worked for me is using a rotating proxy system that switches between different types of proxies, it helps to keep Instagram from building a behavioral fingerprint of your accounts. It's also important to keep an eye on your account activity and adjust your proxy setup accordingly, it's a constant cat-and-mouse game. Rotating proxies too quickly can raise red flags, so it's all about finding a balance.

jup, sounds good.

I have maybe a very basic question: How did you get paid i mean what payment processor you use and need this to be in same name as the OF? How did you manage the risk of getting the money if is in someone else name?

For the model in question - she has a paxum. OF -> Paxum -> my crypto wallet (Paxum offers direct crypto payments). I have a good agreement with the model and we go a long way back. Though a set-up like this requires a lot of trust. I have had some bad experiences with models that disappear once they first see some cash being moved around. It's part of the game. Unfortunately, it's a dirty business and you can find terrible managers/models around every corner. For some of these models they have never seen a sum of $7000 on their account.. and this is where the biggest temptation comes in.

 

[godang]

I have a pet niche IG page, like 2 months old, and I have been posting 4-5 per day straight.
3 funny repurposed pet videos and 2 image posts daily.

As of today, 282 posts, 11 followers, and 27 following.
I'm using the same reels and images to post at Facebook page, and I'm close to 10K followers.

Is this normal? What's wrong with my IG?

 

[ajithroshan123]

How to get user profiles to send dm ?

 

[subzirow]

anything OF isnt for me

 

[bluerock]

hey everyone,

I've been working with Instagram and Twitter automation since 2022. There have been ups and downs but it looks like I have found a solid set-up for running things on IG.
Most of this was made with IG -> OnlyFans funnel.

Two types of systems were used:

IG mass likes -> link in bio -> directly to free OF -> mass DM conversion to paid OF
IG mass dm's -> main IG account with DM converting -> directly to paid OF

As the title suggests - ask me anything.

what was the costs for all this?

 

[conceptsofo]

I have a pet niche IG page, like 2 months old, and I have been posting 4-5 per day straight.
3 funny repurposed pet videos and 2 image posts daily.

As of today, 282 posts, 11 followers, and 27 following.
I'm using the same reels and images to post at Facebook page, and I'm close to 10K followers.

Is this normal? What's wrong with my IG?

The results sound good, keep pushing. Re-purposing the same video over and over again will eventually get impression-limited.

How to get user profiles to send dm ?

I have a list of adult content creators of whom i constantly scrape new posts from last 2-3 months. I then scrape their likers and commentators. Filter out the trash (new accounts, with no posts and thousands of 'following', etc.). I have a big database of 10's of millions of users that i circle through every few weeks.

anything OF isnt for me

Understandable, IG mass outreach can be used for anything else - your ecom store (nutra, reps, drops, smm, etc.), lead acquisition, or even conversations. IG mass outreach work well especially now that meta ads accounts are getting heavily squeezed in blackhat/greyhat niches.

what was the costs for all this?

Heavily depends on the cycle of the month (when IG is pushing out updates or running tests), each of these periods have their own advantages and disadvantages. I'd say my monthly recurring costs can be anywhere between 1-5k a month. Thankfully my IP/proxy costs aren't high as im running my own.

 

[D_j4ngo]

Thank you so much for sharing! I'm curious about where you get your stable account sources? Also, what type of accounts would you recommend for running mass tasks?

 

[conceptsofo]

Thank you so much for sharing! I'm curious about where you get your stable account sources? Also, what type of accounts would you recommend for running mass tasks?

I'd say its around 50/50. I register the accounts myself but im constantly buying from other private sellers to test out their batches. For these mass tasks im using softregs - practically empty accounts (pfp and link only added to the account).

The biggest mistake people make with IG mass actions is that profiling and doing all sorts of actions with API already reduced the trust score for the account. So, why bother adding 10+ posts, add bio, captions, etc. just to not be pushed to notifications?

 

[easonxai]

Great breakdown so far. Just to clarify the headline number — is the $174k your gross before model split and OF's cut, or what actually hits your bank after everything?
And roughly what % ends up as net profit once you factor in account farming, proxies, and model contracts? Asking because the opex you mentioned (5–7k/mo on accounts alone) seems to eat into it quite a bit.

 

[conceptsofo]

Great breakdown so far. Just to clarify the headline number — is the $174k your gross before model split and OF's cut, or what actually hits your bank after everything?
And roughly what % ends up as net profit once you factor in account farming, proxies, and model contracts? Asking because the opex you mentioned (5–7k/mo on accounts alone) seems to eat into it quite a bit.

This was a salary model (hence the profit margins for this one were far more interesting), the accounts i used were not used for this one model alone (I only did an AMA for this particular model/page even though I was pushing traffic for several models). Around 70% in profit. The proxies were my own, model was a friend of an associate (no contract fee). Accounts did have fluctuation in prices - usually when everything was getting banned - the accounts were more expensive. When everything was okay (including mass actions) the accounts were much cheaper and easier to register even with my set-up.

 

[Sifferee]

do I understand correctly that you just have a link on each account and you just like, comment, and write personal messages to other people first (a whole contingent collected by parsing active users from pages of other online models?), and then in correspondence you give a link to the model's page on the official website or indicate that it is it in your bio? (how do you put a link there? does this link lead directly to online fans? I tried to do this, on my accounts purchased after brutus, the link immediately causes the need for profile verification) I really like your approach with the story in which you pretend to be the girlfriend of the person who likes your "victim"))) Do you also use AI to respond to each "victim" or do you do it with your own hands? I keep a large number of instagram accounts with my hands, I upload videos to them with calls to go to a story with a link to onlifans (because for posting a link in the bio I get a requirement to pass verification), I use one mobile proxy for 50-100 accounts and my accounts reach hundreds of thousands in about 30% of cases. views, but the lifetime is 5-10 days... I am faced with the problem of geo viewers (often they are shooting gallery-3 countries) you do not know how to make sure that there are more viewers of shooting gallery-1 countries. For example, the USA?

I will be grateful for all your answers, I have been doing this for quite a long time and unfortunately I do it instead of sleeping because I do not have enough time.

 

[conceptsofo]

do I understand correctly that you just have a link on each account and you just like, comment, and write personal messages to other people first (a whole contingent collected by parsing active users from pages of other online models?), and then in correspondence you give a link to the model's page on the official website or indicate that it is it in your bio? (how do you put a link there? does this link lead directly to online fans? I tried to do this, on my accounts purchased after brutus, the link immediately causes the need for profile verification) I really like your approach with the story in which you pretend to be the girlfriend of the person who likes your "victim"))) Do you also use AI to respond to each "victim" or do you do it with your own hands? I keep a large number of instagram accounts with my hands, I upload videos to them with calls to go to a story with a link to onlifans (because for posting a link in the bio I get a requirement to pass verification), I use one mobile proxy for 50-100 accounts and my accounts reach hundreds of thousands in about 30% of cases. views, but the lifetime is 5-10 days... I am faced with the problem of geo viewers (often they are shooting gallery-3 countries) you do not know how to make sure that there are more viewers of shooting gallery-1 countries. For example, the USA?

I will be grateful for all your answers, I have been doing this for quite a long time and unfortunately I do it instead of sleeping because I do not have enough time.

1) Yes, I parse and contact the likers and commentators of a model. I go to her latest post and scrape them there.
2) Normally I push them to message me on another account.
3) I didn't put the link in bio, i had several links that i rotated before i sent them to the fan.
4) In cases where I did put the link in bio (when i was doing mass likes), I was literally putting OF link in bio lol. At that time, this was stupidly working and the accounts didn't get suspended or prompted with verification. Though profile photos needed to be 'safe'. I had like 50 000 different profile photos.
5) I used AI for chatting and converting to OF.
6) To target USA - use USA popular sounds, have the account be registered in the USA and proxy in USA. Sometimes the content will be shown to Turkey, India, Bangladesh, etc.

Hope this helps.

 

[OptimumGuy]

Hey OP, nice post(s)

Would you recommend using Mass DM's for promoting an non NSFW Instagram Account, e.g. promote Meme page through mass DM?

 

[conceptsofo]

Hey OP, nice post(s)

Would you recommend using Mass DM's for promoting an non NSFW Instagram Account, e.g. promote Meme page through mass DM?

I'd better suggest an educational page. The funnel is longer but the purchase intent is higher if the potential client sees that 'you know what you are talking about'. Meme page provides entertainment value but not to an extent where you could be profitable from doing so. The only method of entertainment i see being profitable is NSFW.

 

[virchual]

I got a few questions as well.

1. Which AI did you use to talk to users? Cupid?

2. If you were talking to targets using AI (Cupid or Capital etc) you must haven't used IAM for that. Did you develop your custom solution? And which API (mobile or web) did you use for that custom solution?

3. For registering your own accounts did you use an API based approach or your phone farm or what exactly?

Thanks for posting very informative thread and it's really awesome!

 

[conceptsofo]

I got a few questions as well.

1. Which AI did you use to talk to users? Cupid?

2. If you were talking to targets using AI (Cupid or Capital etc) you must haven't used IAM for that. Did you develop your custom solution? And which API (mobile or web) did you use for that custom solution?

3. For registering your own accounts did you use an API based approach or your phone farm or what exactly?

Thanks for posting very informative thread and it's really awesome!

1) Cupid.

2) Correct, not IAM. The accounts were on my physical phones but they also were connected via web IG. It was a hectic set-up but now I have adjusted so I don't need to deal with IG rate limits over web.

3) A mixture as IG for some reason sometimes revert their updates to years ago for some reason. Set-ups that had not worked for so long are suddenly working, and then few months later not working again. Very strange.

 

[OGcrisp]

You said you create accounts yourself. Do you have IOS automation (with Crane?) for it or VA's or anything else?

 

[shettman]

hey everyone,

I've been working with Instagram and Twitter automation since 2022. There have been ups and downs but it looks like I have found a solid set-up for running things on IG.
Most of this was made with IG -> OnlyFans funnel.

Two types of systems were used:

IG mass likes -> link in bio -> directly to free OF -> mass DM conversion to paid OF
IG mass dm's -> main IG account with DM converting -> directly to paid OF

As the title suggests - ask me anything.

Thanks for this, when I'm done doing research on it, I will ask questions

 

[red_potato]

Is your income from OF only?

 

[Falken Agency]

hey everyone,

I've been working with Instagram and Twitter automation since 2022. There have been ups and downs but it looks like I have found a solid set-up for running things on IG.
Most of this was made with IG -> OnlyFans funnel.

Two types of systems were used:

IG mass likes -> link in bio -> directly to free OF -> mass DM conversion to paid OF
IG mass dm's -> main IG account with DM converting -> directly to paid OF

As the title suggests - ask me anything.

Nice run. What does your account churn look like, how long does a mass DM account usually last before it gets banned, and are you warming new ones constantly to replace them? That's usually the part that decides if the whole thing scales or not.