CTR Manipulaton for SEO - AMA

What does aged cookies mean? A cookie from having been logged into the social media site you're getting a link from, or from Google? A cookie from at one time in the past having logged in, so in the beginning an account is required, but later it is not?
You don't have to use accounts to save cookies. You can just run history on them and they are probably 60% as strong as a logged in account. Now when you have 100,000 of them. You have a really strong network. I wouldn't do any traffic or CTR without cookies. Fresh searches won't work the same. Especially if all your traffic has no cookies. Easy to spot by the algo's.
 
You can just run history on them and they are probably 60% as strong as a logged in account
I'm trying to visualize how to do this. So I open a browser using Playwright incognito, visit Google, save all cookies, database it. Initiate a new incognito browser, visit Google, save all cookies, database it.

Then I wait a month.

Then, one by one, I restore the old browser session with Google and use that browser session to visit a t.co shortened link from X or a facebook shortened URL etc.

The aging and cookies come from old Google browser sessions I saved then restored at a later date.

Do I need to worry about proxies on the original cookie browser sessions? Or do I just use proxies on the final use when I take the aged Google session cookies and visit the media link a month later?
 
I'm trying to visualize how to do this. So I open a browser using Playwright incognito, visit Google, save all cookies, database it. Initiate a new incognito browser, visit Google, save all cookies, database it.

Then I wait a month.

Then, one by one, I restore the old browser session with Google and use that browser session to visit a t.co shortened link from X or a facebook shortened URL etc.

The aging and cookies come from old Google browser sessions I saved then restored at a later date.

Do I need to worry about proxies on the original cookie browser sessions? Or do I just use proxies on the final use when I take the aged Google session cookies and visit the media link a month later?
Cookies don't save proxy information. So you can use new proxies each session. Run a generic browsing session, save the cookies and then load them before you do the visits. GEO and niche relevant traffic works the best. So if you are trying to rank a lawyer, have the history include things like searching for lawyer keywords and visiting lawyer websites. Or if you are trying to rank in Las Vegas have it search for Las Vegas terms and websites. Not 100% necessary, but it does work the best.
 
have the history include things like
So incognito not necessary, just create a fresh browser session and maintain its cookies. Use proxies for every session to save the GEO in the cookies? Search for many terms in the niche and construct a normal browser session, no account login necessary. Save/restore the session over time to build out a history of searching for a particular niche. After these sessions have been aged a month or two, use them to follow the shortened URLs. That's the process that will take something from barely ranking to pages 1 to 2.

Then use these same saved/restored sessions to do the CTR manipulation of clicking to your site and browsing vs pogosticking your competitors?

And what types of proxies are the best for this, I'm assuming residential/mobile?
 
Also, is there any need to change the browser footprint on all these sessions? Getting 100k clickthroughs from 100k different browser sessions that happen to have the same identical footprint, nothing changed but their session variables, isn't a problem?
 
One more question, I'm assuming that Google is learning about all this through Chrome reporting on browser activity. If I'm following a link from an x.com shortened URL, Google isn't a part of that process, the only way Google would know is if Chrome is somehow reporting browser activity back to Google without google.com being in the loop?
 
what is the software or service used ? also the proxy ? thanks
I don't want to shill any specific product but I mentioned what I use above. Mobile or residential for proxies.
So incognito not necessary, just create a fresh browser session and maintain its cookies. Use proxies for every session to save the GEO in the cookies? Search for many terms in the niche and construct a normal browser session, no account login necessary. Save/restore the session over time to build out a history of searching for a particular niche. After these sessions have been aged a month or two, use them to follow the shortened URLs. That's the process that will take something from barely ranking to pages 1 to 2.

Then use these same saved/restored sessions to do the CTR manipulation of clicking to your site and browsing vs pogosticking your competitors?

And what types of proxies are the best for this, I'm assuming residential/mobile?
If you do it right, yes.
Also, is there any need to change the browser footprint on all these sessions? Getting 100k clickthroughs from 100k different browser sessions that happen to have the same identical footprint, nothing changed but their session variables, isn't a problem?
Yes, fingerprint is very important. And the traffic appearing to be real. Which is why headless won't work the same. But you can test anything.
One more question, I'm assuming that Google is learning about all this through Chrome reporting on browser activity. If I'm following a link from an x.com shortened URL, Google isn't a part of that process, the only way Google would know is if Chrome is somehow reporting browser activity back to Google without google.com being in the loop?
Google can see the website you were on before you went to the website. Having GA installed on the website helps. But I think they also track activity on Chromium. Even though they claim they don't.
Really good info here! I plan on developing my own CTR system after if finish up my article generation system.

Thanks for sharing!
Let us know how it goes.
 
So incognito not necessary, just create a fresh browser session and maintain its cookies. Use proxies for every session to save the GEO in the cookies? Search for many terms in the niche and construct a normal browser session, no account login necessary. Save/restore the session over time to build out a history of searching for a particular niche. After these sessions have been aged a month or two, use them to follow the shortened URLs. That's the process that will take something from barely ranking to pages 1 to 2.

Then use these same saved/restored sessions to do the CTR manipulation of clicking to your site and browsing vs pogosticking your competitors?

And what types of proxies are the best for this, I'm assuming residential/mobile?
It's not going to work on a trash website and you are trying to outrank wikipedia. But it does work in certain cases. Just wanted to clear that up so there isn't any confusion. And I don't do anything with shortened urls. You will have to test that for yourself.
 
It also works really well for Bing, Duckduckgo, Yahoo and other search engines. I think they have even more weight in the algo for traffic/CTR. They don't cover a lot of the overall searches. But for the right keywords, you can make money with them.
 
Yes, fingerprint is very important.
Does the software you mentioned earlier in the thread change footprint automatically? I'm assuming, if playwright is being used for instance, that you would have to emulate different browser versions, different screen resolutions, different operating systems, different installed plugins? How elaborate do you need to get in mixing up the footprint? If we're using the 100k example you gave, what percent would need to differ in footprint?
 
Great thread. A couple of questions for you:

1. How do you handle the scale issue? Like if you're doing CTR manipulation for a money page, how many "signals" per day would you say is a safe amount before it looks unnatural?

2. Does the dwell time matter as much as the initial click? I've seen conflicting info on whether Google looks at bounce-back-to-SERP behavior or just raw CTR.

3. For content sites vs service business landing pages - is the approach the same or do you tweak anything?

Context: I work mostly with service business lead gen (LinkedIn + WhatsApp outreach funnels) and occasionally need to rank specific landing pages. Curious if CTR manipulation works differently when the page intent is transactional vs informational.
1. It depends on the level of traffic that a keyword would normally get. If the keyword gets 100 clicks a day. #1 would probably get (20 clicks), #2 (10 clicks), #3 (8 clicks), #4 (5 clicks), #5-10 maybe (1-3 clicks). So if I'm #5-10, I would send 5 clicks a day to mimic the #4 website. If you aren't on page 1, I would do keywords + brand to get the website into the top 3 positions for CTR until you hit page 1 for the keyword without the brand. When you add the brand it will pull page 1 (95% of the time). I never run straight keyword CTR to anything not on page 1-2. It's a waste of time imo. I don't think the algo is weighted to CTR until you hit page 1-2, and even more the higher you go up they factor it. If you aren't at least on page 2 focus on social referral traffic and branded, keywords + branded searches until you hit page 1-2. Sometimes just doing that will jump you up 30-40 spots.

2. Yes, dwell time matters 100%. If you bounce too quick it can be a negative ranking signal. The ideal time is between 5-10 minutes and it clicks around the website scrolling random pages in that timeframe before ending the session. Internal linking plays a factor and the better the internal linking the better the traffic/ctr will do in general. And the more it will help rankings on the entire website.

3. The traffic/ctr is mostly the same regardless of what you are trying to rank. If you are trying to rank a linkedin page, linkedin would be the brand. So I would search linkedin buy backlinks or whatever the main keywords are. Then the same process as above once it's ranking on it's own.
 
Does the software you mentioned earlier in the thread change footprint automatically? I'm assuming, if playwright is being used for instance, that you would have to emulate different browser versions, different screen resolutions, different operating systems, different installed plugins? How elaborate do you need to get in mixing up the footprint? If we're using the 100k example you gave, what percent would need to differ in footprint?
Main thing with the footprint is try to keep it within 2 versions of what it should be. So if Chrome version is 146, use 144-145-146. Once you go past 2 versions old it sends a red flag. There aren't a ton of variations of footprints. Most people use 4-5 of the same phones and most people use 3-4 of the same PC user agents. So you don't need a huge variation. As long as there is some variation. Out of the 100K you can have a mix of 10 devices and 3-4 user agents randomized. I usually do 70% mobile and 30% desktop. Then probably 60/40 android/iphone of mobile. And then with desktop vary the screen sizes maybe 3-4 different ones that everyone uses.
 
Lets say you would use this and pogo stick from a competitors site. Could this be used as a negative seo method for direct competitors? Seems like a less risky method then boosting my own sites.
 
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