New Section 3 Rule: 3.15 Restriction of Contact Information

[BassTrackerBoats]

Could you send me the links and rules?
I'd like to read and learn.

Here are the rules:

https://www.blackhatworld.com/help/terms/

This will help you a ton:

https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/newbie-guide.242/

 

[WindSpace Agency]

Could you send me the links and rules?
I'd like to read and learn.

I recommend browsing the Newbie section to familiarize yourself with BHW’s guidelines. It’s the best way to prevent warnings from simple oversights, as the management team has tightened rules to ensure a secure and clean community.

 

[cloaker4ads]

The best solution here is:
All VIP members registered on the exchange must verify, update their profiles, and pay insurance.
They must all pay insurance. This insurance ensures that in the event of fraud, the entire amount will be transferred to the victim.
When they stop using the service and no longer wish to participate in the forum,
the administrator will send a notification that the service has ceased operation. During that time, if no one files a lawsuit, their insurance money will be refunded.
This is the best solution; it couldn't be better.

I imagine the kind of paperwork, legal fees and whatnot to run an insurance firm in the UK...

 

[keomut500]

I imagine the kind of paperwork, legal fees and whatnot to run an insurance firm in the UK...

Every problem has a solution.
The important thing is whether they can reach a consensus.
The cost will be borne by the client.

 

[LilMosey]

I imagine the kind of paperwork, legal fees and whatnot to run an insurance firm in the UK...

It would help battle the scammers who upgrade with Crypto, promote Cloaking and BH Ads services, use aged bhw accounts to scam, and so on.

 

[Mustaqim]

appreciated

 

[PetraAnn]

In non-marketplace, non-HAF/WTB places, can I tell users to DM me and post the BHW link to my DM? ( https://www.blackhatworld.com/direct-messages/add?to=HarmonyHokage )

Say someone in the cloaker section is asking for help, can I tell the user to DM me and drop the BHW DM link in the post?

This is getting dangerously close to selling outside of the marketplace.

I have a question suppose if someone is not having a thread, and he paid for JR .vip then if he want to sell something as a free lancer. Then, how will he DM thread with contact info? or how will he reply with thread in HAF and WTB .
Can you please clarify this?

There's signature spaces and of course you can tell people in HAF/WTB threads to DM you. Or, you can DM them if you offer the services as long as you provide the link to the thread where they were requesting the service to show you're not cold DMing.

 

[Lastchance55]

From safety point of view, it's a good move But from sellers point of view, this will hurt their sales a lot. Most of the traffic from BHW comes from the last post links only. No one checks the opening posts.

And I am perplexed that if contact information is allowed in Opening post, signature etc, then why it is forbidden in the last post? The visitor or the buyer will get the contact information anyway. So I didn't get it. Kindly clarify this point.

As someone else said above, BHW traffic is not the same as it used to be. It may be due to various reasons like unregistered users can't see the WTB section, numerous members are getting banned on daily basis, old members have left etc. Whatever the reason, this new rule will further decrease the sales.

As a seller, it's my humble request to reconsider it.

 

[MustySolution]

This is a very good step towards securing that if anyone falls victim meaning the person also have a motive

 

[proxysideio]

Got it, thx!

 

[PetraAnn]

And I am perplexed that if contact information is allowed in Opening post, signature etc, then why it is forbidden in the last post? The visitor or the buyer will get the contact information anyway. So I didn't get it. Kindly clarify this point.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/your-feedback-needed-a-plan-for-old-sales-threads.1752048/

Once a sales thread has expired, we're removing everything from the opening post. By restricting outside contact info in subsequent posts, we will no longer have to deal with disputes where someone finds a sales thread from 5 years ago and decides to contact the seller's TG only to find out a scammer had been using it.

So it's a matter of retraining users to go to the opening thread in a sales thread. Or, sellers DMing users who express interest in their sales threads.

 

[keomut500]

One must have 15 posts to initiate a DM, but can receive and respond to DMs without the 15 posts.

One must have 15 posts to initiate a DM, but can receive and respond to DMs without the 15 posts.

Can I have more details?
New account? They haven't posted enough content yet, so they've already paid: $749 per year.
So, when they post sales ads, how do customers contact them?
When they don't have 15 posts yet?
According to Clause 3: 3.15 Restrictions on contact information

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

Can I have more details?
New account? They haven't posted enough content yet, so they've already paid the fee: $749 per year.
So, when they post sales ads, how do customers contact them?
According to Rule Section 3: 3.15 Restricting Contact Information

In a sales thread, they have the opportunity, or actually the requirement, to post an outside contact option in their original post.

 

[keomut500]

In a sales thread, they have the opportunity, or actually the requirement, to post an outside contact option in their original post.

The new regulations also don't solve the problem.
To ensure fairness for new services,
Developing services on BHW is very difficult for new sellers.
I think these services should be insured. $10,000.
Consider that amount as a guarantee for the seller.
This would minimize the risk of fraud and scams in the services.
You should do more research.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

You should do more research.

The rules adjustment has been discussed by all the team leaders as well as the other staff members involved in community management.

The research behind it is legion, but we are open to ideas you may have.

 

[keomut500]

The rules adjustment has been discussed by all the team leaders as well as the other staff members involved in community management.

The research behind it is legion, but we are open to ideas you may have.

I'm also looking to develop a service.
I'm new, so how can they trust my service?
Except for VIP members, there's no guarantee they'll trust my service.
If the insurance issues are complex...
Have you considered opening intermediary service gateways?

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

I'm also looking to develop a service.
I'm new, so how can they trust my service?
Except for VIP members, there's no guarantee they'll trust my service.
If the insurance issues are complex...
Have you considered opening intermediary service gateways?

One way to get people to trust your service is to offer reviews of your product or service.

That's pretty common.

You can offer that in your sales thread, or when you are ready to upgrade and have your sales idea in place, open a thread here.

As to intermediary service gateways, in Marketplace 2.0 there will be some variation of that opportunity.

 

[keomut500]

One way to get people to trust your service is to offer reviews of your product or service.

That's pretty common.

You can offer that in your sales thread, or when you are ready to upgrade and have your sales idea in place, open a thread https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/service-reviews-beta-testers-help-wanted.165/.

As to intermediary service gateways, in Marketplace 2.0 there will be some variation of that opportunity.

Thank you, we will be developing the services this February.
Could I know when Marketplace 2.0 will be released?
I hope that date comes soon so I can use the service.
Hopefully Marketplace 2.0 will be a breakthrough in the overall development of features, interface, modes, etc.
In almost 10 years, I haven't seen any changes from your forum, except for the rules.
I'm waiting for it.

 

[BassTrackerBoats]

Thank you, we will be developing the services this February.
Could I know when Marketplace 2.0 will be released?
I hope that date comes soon so I can use the service.
Hopefully Marketplace 2.0 will be a breakthrough in the overall development of features, interface, modes, etc.
In almost 10 years, I haven't seen any changes from your forum, except for the rules.
I'm waiting for it.

I don't think the Marketplace Team has a date for release just yet.

I know there are a bunch of very smart people working on the development and they want it right before they release it.

 

[Lastchance55]

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/your-feedback-needed-a-plan-for-old-sales-threads.1752048/

Once a sales thread has expired, we're removing everything from the opening post. By restricting outside contact info in subsequent posts, we will no longer have to deal with disputes where someone finds a sales thread from 5 years ago and decides to contact the seller's TG only to find out a scammer had been using it.

So it's a matter of retraining users to go to the opening thread in a sales thread. Or, sellers DMing users who express interest in their sales threads.

Thanks for the clarification. In that case, you can remove TG, Teams etc from subsequent post but you can allow Website and email contact because both website URL and email address can't be created exactly similar by the scammer. 99% of scammers/scams happens on/due to TG. By removing it, it will solve the issue and by allowing website/email contact, it will help sellers significantly. This is a more balanced approach to solve this scam menace.